| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 08:10 am |
Josias has taken several footholds on the border of the Secretary of Defense Stephen Ryan's country along with a few other Hydra members making similarly provocative moves.
Are we to take this aggression as a renig on your peace proposal Josias?
We are still debating that measure privately, I wonder why you would want to jeopardize those internal discussions. Your actions make for strong arguments against acceptance of your proposal.
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 08:23 am |
Your not really calling me out on a treaty that you've already broke, and are still considering?
You've already blindsided me with your first violation. And now it would appear that you are playing a game with the word "consider." I'm sorry, but you haven't given me any reason to trust you.
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 08:37 am |
*I* have not broken ANYTHING. What you are referring to is when Steve declared on *you*.
This little paragraph came after you both came to some sort of agreement, and this is what I am talking about.
You want us to consider this offer meaningless in other words, correct?
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 08:47 am |
again, you have not given me any reason to trust you.
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 09:07 am |
It is not *I* you need to trust. *I* cannot war on you, nor have I declared war on you. It is impossible. It is clear you cannot be trusted. You typed those words not *I*.
You keep placing the emphasis on me, when this has everything to do with you. Your actions, and you keeping or not keeping your word.
I mean seriously speaking, I knew they were hollow, I'm just wondering if you wanted to preserve that "Reputation" you've worked so hard on.
It is Steve who will ultimately decide how to react to this. Thank you for making your position clear.
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 09:21 am |
what a bunch of hogwash
you still didn't offer an argument that would encourage me to trust you, or your side.
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 09:24 am |
but here's a question
what is the point of representing a group, and signing peace deals? when all the members are allowed to what ever they want anyways?
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 09:24 am |
But! Using your own words and fake peace initiative I offered a flawless argument that explains exactly why *no one* should trust *you* or *your side*.
check and... MATE!
Ok, done here.
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 09:32 am |
good, moving on
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 10:49 am |
I don't see why anyone would trust a no good backstabber with a history of attacking even fedmates who happen to disagree, but here we are with people trusting you Wendy.
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 12:20 pm |
Wow, I couldn't believe you would describe Josias like that, Mizore. I could believe it though, hell even I've done that before.
| Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 08:06 pm |
Claiming people are apart of your organization, when they never agreed to it. IS forcing it on them. Every attempt to reason that with you, has resulted in you claiming to have every right to your policies
you certainly have every right to play the game. But so do I. if you slap me, i just might slap back. keep that in mind when you are exercising your "policies,"
your organization, as a group, can not break treaties. And expect to generate trust. You can not expect an enemy, to stand around waiting forever while you "consider," especially, after YOUR GROUP broke the treaty to begin with.
The NLUO has been nothing but shady, and underhanded. And after breaking a treaty, claiming that they don't negoiate with outsiders... then when their is a type of cease fire. I'm expected to stand around and let you do it to me again?
I don't think so. And i've got the guns to back it up.
Avoiding war is pretty simple. You can stop "considering," and make it official. You do that, and i'll let the C3s decs slide. Until then, YOUR SIDE, has not given me any reason to trust you.
| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 02:31 pm |
Well im dissapointed as me and orbiter had an aggreement so i instigated a peace treaty then i find that the c3 dec around me and lord lee have been dec on by orbiter what a let down. I instigated a treaty in good faith and find lord lee who is totally peaceful in trouble and my actions now questionable the best outcome now orbiter relax ur c3 decs toward a peacful outcome.
| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 03:37 pm |
mmmm one last point orbiter has again kept these c3s active in war around myself and lee of last game month if this continues this is a final dec of war regards steve
| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 05:07 pm |
I might just have to move up the war level to assist in this war. Super, buy war protection, level 5 here I come!
| Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 08:18 pm |
as long as i keep that C3 dec active, Steve Ryan will stay in war protection! so... it'd seem to me to be the only way to keep the peace!
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 03:46 am |
Im not dec on anyone if i was going too go to war i would not have instigated a peace treaty but now orbiter is forcing the issue by aggressivly dec around me right after signing the treaty my last post stands i dont have a choice if these c3 dec remain if its war u want then its war u will get.
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 03:48 am |
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 04:03 am |
so i'm suppose to go off the word of some one that JUST broke their word... and refuses to actually agree to anything...
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 05:32 am |
i did not mean that to say that steve ryan lied to me. but that i was lied too, by the NLUO.
i signed a treaty, took a walk, and came back to decs.
i get that their can be confusion. miscommunication. but the NLUO has not offered me any kind of reassurance this will not happen again.
infact, hez and wendy continuously baiting... every one
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 06:50 am |
...and I'll continue baiting, as you call it. I have not said or done anything that affects you.
In fact, I have tried my hardest to not have anything to do with you good or bad. Stop using my name in vain.
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 06:52 am |
so what kind of peace are you willing to offer?
i will not hear demands, or doubletalk
i'm on chat, lets talk!
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 07:05 am |
I'm personally am no longer interested in peace, and even less interested in having any conversation with you. It is pointless, your words are hollow and full of double-talk.
Steve, Josias isn't credible enough to honor any new peace deal when he just had one with you previously and has broken it for no reason whatsoever.
He's stalling for time, they are going to attack you one way or the other. Just my thoughts.
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 07:16 am |
translation, wendy is sacred and will sick steve ryan on me
guess what, i'm dropping RDUs...
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 07:29 am |
steve, we did have an agreement, but i want an agreement with wendy and hez.
the leadership of the NLUO, has been nothing but a disarray
hez signs a peace deal with me, and with hours you dec
i don't hear from you until, literally, what 15 minutes before go active... my countries go from nothing, to full on war slaves... then you tell me what you did...
then i see the post on the forums, about the NLUO military method.
wendy, and hez continue to bait
what am i suppose to think. you guys already did it once, and are offering nothing
i am saying NO to a world government that has leaders acting such.
keep in mind, i don't want to shoot, but if i have to, i'm ready.
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 07:40 am |
right, I'm so scared. Thanks for reminding me I sometimes forget.
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 10:16 am |
glad i could help
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 08:28 pm |
Orbiter you are full of doubletalk. You had plenty of chance for peace. I never signed anything. You did not con firm anything. I send out the executive order before we even sat down at the table. further more the NLUO government officials reserve the right to defend themselves without any consent of the NLUO. If they need whole feds to fight in wars, then they must go through the political process. You threatened war!!! Nobody declares war, and say I was just paying around. You declared war, then sat down for peace. We did the same thing. The only difference is that we did it in self defense. Secretary Ryan is in his full jurisdiction in his actions, and I applaud him for his courage, and I also encourage the Secretary to continue his campaign against you and your allies. No worries Secretary Ryan we will have 5 federations descending upon LU very soon to stamp out these division filled rebels.
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 08:49 pm |
Thats very aggressive of you Hez. I've promised myself to not argue with you, but I must point out that that last of yours doesn't sound like you defending yourselves. I also dont see how you can call others rebels, but react strongly when people call you tyrants or dictators. Why accuse others of double talk when you do exactly the same thing?
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 08:53 pm |
Josias, it would be best to drop those C3s around Steve Ryan. He has said thats the only thing carrying on the confrontation, you dont have to trust Hez and Wendy, it's between you and him.
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 09:13 pm |
When you acknowledge the LU World Government, and wage war against it, you are rebels of this government. simple and plain.
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 10:02 pm |
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 10:12 pm |
ok Hezz now that sounded down right hostile! lol
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 10:54 pm |
You would too if your government was being attacked by people who say they do not want the government to exist.
| Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 11:45 pm |
"Josias, it would be best to drop those C3s around Steve Ryan. He has said thats the only thing carrying on the confrontation, " crafty
that makes allot of since. and i'll do that, for you, because i respect you.
the problem i have. is that i've already been back stabbed once by them, and they completely denign it, and blame it on each other? it doesn't generate allot of trust, especially with hez and wendy baiting every one they can, even over religious views, that have no place in an international game.
Crafty, if they are a peaceful friendly organization, whats the problem with signing a treaty? and going about their business...
but you make a good point, if all thats keeping this going is those C3 decs... then i should let it drop. but i doubt that, that will bring this to an end. although i'm sure i wont be the one stirring the pot!
| Friday, December 21, 2012 - 12:29 am |
Damn dude Josias just can't stop placing me in the middle of his little lame mind game. Still using my name in vain huh.
A sacrifice is in order.... Weapon tests will be announced shortly.
And yeah while you're at it Josias, drop those c3s before you get tossed up. Crafty is scared for you, that is why he suggested you do so. I strongly suggest you follow that advice.
Go ahead and bite that bait, I dare you. The time for pussyfooting is over.
| Friday, December 21, 2012 - 12:35 am |
"The time for pussyfooting is over" Wendy
does that mean you coming up in war levels?
| Friday, December 21, 2012 - 12:44 am |
| Friday, December 21, 2012 - 12:57 am |
It means exactly what it read.
| Friday, December 21, 2012 - 01:22 am |
| Friday, December 21, 2012 - 05:52 am |
As you well know Josias i have kept my word nothing else. I let the peace treaty run through its course and could of assaulted u any time during this period but i gave my word so i am not the aggressor here.
| Friday, December 21, 2012 - 07:48 pm |
I did not say such to Josias because I am afraid for him Wendy, as you well know. I would chance that josias is quite capable of making a good show of himself, as is Steve Ryan (but I have had zero dealings with him).
Why say such a thing unless it is to destroy any harmony?
And Josias, my feelings are to give SR the benefit of the doubt. Wendy and Hez are another matter. Sorry mate, but I've about had it up to the gizzards with this never ending bs, so I had to stick my oar in.
I think a day or two off for the Holiday season would be a good thing. Salutations to all.
| Thursday, February 7, 2013 - 08:06 pm |
This is very interesting, many of you want to destroy the government which founded this planet... These people will have to indulge in violence when obviously this isn't time to be talking about war.. we have things to worry about.. not settle things such as this. I'm not one to go against an argument that has been tough talk,reconsidering treaties and government officials..
| Thursday, February 7, 2013 - 08:43 pm |
That NLUO government did not "found" the planet, and is in fact a minority faction at this point, comprised mostly of extremist players.
It is good in that it makes the game interesting, but it doesn't really seek the opinions or influence of many of the major players on LU while still trying to speak on their behalf. That is an area where it could use a LOT of help.
| Friday, February 8, 2013 - 04:41 am |
plus Uio this thread is like two months old and this is mostly done with.