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Request for NLUO to investigate member rudeness and provocation

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Crafty

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 17:32Link
Lord lee has been asked by President Crafty to correct the functioning of his CEO corps in my countries. The corp wages are too low to maintain full hiring in many instances. This causes me problems with my employment figures and causes Lord Lees corps to lose money, so reducing my income from hosting his corps. Against popular perception, CEO corps will actual pay zero CRU if they lose enough money consistently.

Lord Lee has been messaged as per the general accepted etiquette of the game, with the request for him to improve their performance. All I received in reply was, quote "From: AAA1
To: Central Scrutinizer
Real Date: 06-01-2013 03:22:31
World Date: August 13 3087
Subject: Fwd: Re: wages
Message: Forwarded from FEDeral Bank

Computer says NO"

A rather rude abrupt reply I'm sure you will agree. Lord Lee was informed perviously that if he thought he couldnt do anything about his corps
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 18:17Link
May I ask what are the salaries being used?
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Crafty

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:07Link
Not really Wendy, it's not relevant. Suffice to say they are too low for the countries the corps reside in.

I will say that I give welfare over 110 even 120 in all countries. All other Ceos (except maybe yourself and wild occasionally) manage just fine, with profitable corps.

I feel Aqua is just being awkward for the sake of a 10 - 15 rise in salary. It would also improve his profitability. Of course, it's his choice, but then he should just move the corps or close them. If you can think of a way to do it, I would even refund his cost of moving the corps.
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:24Link
Ok I tried. Nationalize them if you want to. If you cannot say what the salary levels that you are complaining about then why even claim that to be the problem?

I'll take a look myself. You could have saved me the time.
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:27Link
Do you have a problem supplying the corps names in question?
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:31Link
<!-Quote-!>Quote:

To: Central Scrutinizer
Real Date: 06-01-2013 03:22:31
World Date: August 13 3087
Subject: Fwd: Re: wages
Message: Forwarded from FEDeral Bank<!-/Quote-!>



Not a single corp in federal bank is under hiring. No corp looks like it has a terrible wage either.

Is this the wrong country?
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:33Link
In fact in that country the poorest performing corporations are owned by Keto and Beast.
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:36Link
Oh I lied, it is Keto's corporation that isn't hiring.

And his corp that is the poorest performing.
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:37Link
Central Scrutinizer,

Again, beast has the only corp under hiring.

The poorest performers belong to Beast and wait for it.... Josias.
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:39Link
Federal Reserve,

None under hiring,

Poorest performers owned by Beast and Keto...
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:40Link
Federal Express, Same story...
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Crafty

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:43Link
Please, Sweetpea, I think I have played enough to know what causes under-hiring. Any corp has to pay a competetive salary. It's even in the game documents for new players.

Federal Bank just happened to be the country I messaged Lee from I presume.

I will provide you with corp names and details, wait a while. I will send said privately.

Would you be the person within NLUO executive that should be looking into this?

Also, with respect, your personal opinion on the running of corps is not in question here. I expect you to treat the matter without influence of your own opinion of how they should be run.
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:43Link
SE Lacerta 1,

Keto under hiring,

poorest performing owned by, Keto, Plexia, and LEE.

ALL of Lees corps make a profit.
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:45Link
SE Lacerta 2,

None under hiring,

Poorest performers, again Keto, Beast.
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:47Link
Lowest performers in this case mean salaries vs/production levels.

Lowest in this instance means lowest salaries.

Oddly enough the lower salaried corps are actually the most profitable. Don't believe me, go look for yourselves.

So, after a brief moment of reflection, it is my recommendation that Lee actually lower his salaries in order to raise the profits/CRU he contributes to Crafty.

I'm still thinking CRU is tied to salary, and if this is indeed the case, it appears CC's needs to take up this issue with more than just Lee, especially since I noted only a single corp that Lee owns performing at the production level that Josias, Keto's and Beast/Ambien's levels, being the case for upwards of 20 or more corps in the various countries listed.

CC, thank you for this stunning display of AssHattery.

Bid away.
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:49Link
There will be no action taken against Lee. If CC wants to fabricate reasons to bid on our player corps as Gaz has, he will do so. He is a free player. Lots of credibility you people are standing on.

You'll have to do better, you try me like I'm related to Super or Shave. Not going to cut it.
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shave

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:51Link
lol.. ok? :)
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SweetPea

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:55Link
Over your head. It is ok Shave this is level 3 politics and above my friend. Be patient, you'll make it there. I see it in you. Just not for now.
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shave

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 19:57Link
ROFL now that was just precious! :) lol
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King Hezekiah II

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 20:02Link
lmbo
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King Hezekiah II

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 20:07Link
Crafty. Don't you think you are being a little anal in your request, just for your numbers sake. I mean no disrespect as I do know you are a heavy hitter on LU. I just think that you are not being unreasonable in your request just anal. Also, if you all were not hostile to the NLUO from the start, King Lord Lee might have possibly humored you and raised the salaries. This is pure speculation,but it is very possible. I do appreciate your diplomatic posture, and your very eloquent stance on this issue. I tip my crown to you for that sir. Very dignified. I don't think King Lord Lee will change on that issue. Also we have a debate on the issue going on right now at the site. So, as the government, we are doing our part in helping you get what you want out of the issue, but it takes the cooperation of King Lord Lee. Also if it comes out that there is a majority who agree with King Lord Lee, would you be willing to accept the outcome of the matter?
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Carthaginian0

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 20:18Link
Crafty, although I am not sure I am the person designated for the job, I will take responsibility for this situation. It appears they won't. I will look into it and suggest action where I see fit.

Please message me either at my country "Carthage" or directly.
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Serpent

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 20:53Link
This statement or the substance thereof has been stated a few times by NLUO.
<!-Quote-!>Quote:

Also if it comes out that there is a majority who agree with King Lord Lee, would you be willing to accept the outcome of the matter?<!-/Quote-!>



What exactly does this mean? Does this mean that if the majority of nations in NLUO agree upon a certain matter then those who disagree or who are not NLUO have to accept that decree?
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King Hezekiah II

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 21:01Link
If the None government official is coming to a government official about an issue with another government official. It is the responsibility of that official to bring the issue up on the floor in the government. It should be debated, and voted on. Now. If the government's majority says King Lord Lee is not subject to raise the Salaries. The none government official's issue was taken up voted on, and this should satisfy the none government official. typically it does not satisfy them if it does not go their way.
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Serpent

All worlds
10 Jan 2013 21:16Link
First of all they are not a 'NONE' government official. By your definition you would be a 'NONE' government official from the perspective of many many LU pres who are not NLUO.

Secondly, you say
<!-Quote-!>Quote:

this should satisfy the none government official.<!-/Quote-!>



Why should it? Can I or any other president or any group or federation make policies, vote on them, pass them and expect NLUO to abide by them since it was determined that they should be satisfied with whatever outcome was considered? C'mon man this is preposterous!