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Secretary of State Election Debate

Topics: Little Upsilon: Secretary of State Election Debate

King Hezekiah II

Friday, February 22, 2013 - 07:49 pm Click here to edit this post
This thread is for all candidate to debate on these questions that I will present.

1. What makes you the best Candidate for Secretary of State?

2. How will you be able to deal with the border issues that are beginning to surface between some of the nations of LU?

3. How will you be a strong diplomatic outlet to the GMs for LU concerns?

4. How will to facilitate nations to go to the Secretary of State forum for their concerns on LU?

5. Why should we vote for you to be Secretary of State?

Please answer all these questions in your posts. Debate, and use each other's posts to show weakness, and strengths, then we can make a better decision on who we want for Secretary of State.


Voting has now started and will continue until Jan 7, 3113.

Election Center: VOTE HERE: http://nluo.webs.com/nluo-election-center

Incumbent: Secretary of State President Lord Lee (TNA) AA Central QUOTE "If I am to win the election for the Secretary of State I will build world diplomatic relations as well as support the administration."

Challenger: Chief Justice Gaddafi (Hydra Auxilary) Libyan Arab Jamariya QUOTE "I am the Chief Justice of the LUICC. I believe I will be able to bring some real unbiased foreign diplomacy, as well as an advocate with the LU international community. I understand that Lord Lee is also a member of the court, but he is a crony of King Hezekiah II. He is also a member of King Hezekiah's Fed as well. Cronyism breeds corruption, and a lack of respect for the rule of law. It also caused the executive branch to become a dictatorial institution. The Executive Branch has had 4 resignations Jackseptic, Herod, Stephen Ryan, Sweetpea, from 3 positions since King Hezekiah II has been in power. Even Lord Lee had to resign from his position as Secretary of Treasury because of his poor effort as Secretary of Treasury. Lord Lee in the past has used his power to intimidate all descent of the Hezekiah Administration policies. So If you want an unbiased, strong, and independent Secretary of State vote for me."

Challenger: Justice Kingdictator (TNA) The Democratic Union of Texas No Quotes available

Challenger: President Brandon Gil (TNA) Ark QUOTE "If you honestly want an unbiased opinion vote for me. Although I am new and still learn, which many of you find a disadvantage to me, I find it a strength because I can't be swayed by event prior to my arrival and founding. I have been helped by independents, Hydra and NLUO players alike. Hez wants the World Government to be a symbol of unity in LU, although others see it as an oppression or see it forced onto them and they have the right such ideas. I see this World Government as a United Nation forum. High offices of any Federation, an ambassador of his/her Fed., coming together to talk about all aspects of LU (economy, war, and social conflicts). I believe the World Government should form into an United Nation (similar) forum. So, then it is not forced on every Fed. or required by every Fed. to join. Your Fed. will decide to join or not and those that are currently here helping, although their Fed. majority may not favor it, can remain and provide insight to their experience as a new player and write tip like Aries, so players can understand the coded language of the manuals. I am willing to be truthful, respectful, and held to the highest accountability for my actions, the actions of members in high and low offices and the actions of all members either active or dormant in the currently World Government. This is my stand, hear me out, listen before you dismiss or bash the ideas proposed. Thank you."

Challenger: Pope Innocent VI (Knights Templar) The Vatican NO QUOTES AVAILABLE

Brandon Gil

Friday, February 22, 2013 - 09:29 pm Click here to edit this post
1. What makes you the best Candidate for Secretary of State?

I am the best candidate for Secretary of State because I'm new and do not have prior or tainted relations with other federations and players. I have recently come to know some helpful and power players in LU. They have all taught me useful items and styles of the game to advance along the road. I'm the best candidate for Secretary of State because I am a developing player and have a good relationship with those outside the NLUO.

2. How will you be able to deal with the border issues that are beginning to surface between some of the nations of LU?

The border issue of LU has become very important recently. I would push for the concerned nations to approach me, so we can have the own of the slave nation discuss a reasonable outcome to please both nations. Although both nations may not get everything they want, compromises are better than wars. Second option, if either countries do not wish to talk, then I will ask the federation leaders (if both are a member of a federation) to talk with the nations preparing for war and try to work something out between federations. I would also ask leaders of Federations to add a rule or pledge to have their members send a message of concern 24 hrs prior to conflict. This is the way I would handle it and involve the many players of LU to show respect for each others hard work and time.

3. How will you be a strong diplomatic outlet to the GMs for LU concerns?

I'll be honest I do not know the GMs that well, nor been on the security council either. However, I will message the GMs with concern of nations in LU, but the nations I notice with the pressing concerns would be the vets and long-term players, so I feel confident they could send their own message to the GMs.


4. How will you facilitate nations to go to the Secretary of State forum for their concerns on LU?

I can ask the nations of LU to join the government forum, but as many players have expressed their dislike toward needing to join those forums. I will gladly post a Sec. of State folder under LU in the SC forums, just encase players of any rank and understanding would like to say hi or post a concern or question. This is the best way to use our resources and produce better results.

5. Why should we vote for you to be Secretary of State?

As Secretary of State, I will work towards peace, prosperity, and expansion of knowledge and land. I will not press players into anything, only make a request and hopeful work something out to benefit the objective of the request and the nation or federation I have asked. I will stay informed on the events around LU, war, earthquakes, and economical downfall, and look to improve the standing of new players and vets alike. I will encourage new players to talk in chat and forums become known to many players and the community of SC, so they can learn and grow within the community as I have done. My overall goal is grow and understanding between players.

Thank you for your time, ladies and gentlemen, lords and scholars, new and veteran players.
Message me in-game if you wish to talk more or find me on the chat. :)

Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi

Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 12:53 am Click here to edit this post
1. What makes you the best Candidate for Secretary of State?

I am the best candidate for Secretary of State because I have been around since this government started. I have seen 3 Secretaries of State come through here, and I had the experience of observing them all. So, I can take from all of them. You would honestly not want a brand new nation like President Gil to be Secretary of State. President Lord Lee has obviously not done anything as secretary of state. This Pope Innocent is a noob and just joined the government and does not even know how the government works, so how could he even think of running for office. President kingdictator is not vocal at all. How is that a good Secretary of State. I would be the best candidate.

2. How will you be able to deal with the border issues that are beginning to surface between some of the nations of LU?

I would not intervene in border issues because that is between the federations who occupy the region.

3. How will you be a strong diplomatic outlet to the GMs for LU concerns?

I would monitor the forums to see what nations are concerned about when it comes to the game. I would post on the polls about these issues to see where people were on these issues. I would then either post a thread on the matters, or just simply PM the gms directly.

4. How will to facilitate nations to go to the Secretary of State forum for their concerns on LU?

When ever there would be any problems that would come up, I would advise nations to contact my dept on the NLUO forums via links, and PMs.

5. Why should we vote for you to be Secretary of State?

You should vote for me for secretary of state because I am the best candidate, and I also have one of the greatest federations to ever exist backing me. I will be fair and impartial. Vote for The Brother Leader.

Keto

Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 01:55 am Click here to edit this post
1 and 5 are the same question

Crafty

Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 03:37 pm Click here to edit this post
Spam spam spam spam, wonderful spam.

Border issues have sweet f a to do with you unless they are your borders.

I would think you are severely mistaken if you think the GM would take any more notice of the NLUO than any other player.

Just who the F**K do you think you are?

Now go join Evony or club penguin where your immaturity and ignorance will go unremarked upon.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 04:28 pm Click here to edit this post
Crafty, do you like to come have hate because you have nothing to do? You right about the spam, every time you speak, this disgusting meat comes out of your mouth.

Crafty

Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 10:52 pm Click here to edit this post
You sir, are a twat. Go away.

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 12:47 am Click here to edit this post
Crafty, please reframe from using such vulgarities as above. You are causing a lot of offense!

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 01:57 am Click here to edit this post
1. What makes you the best Candidate for Secretary of State?

Good Diplomacy, Loyalty, and Listening to the views of the international community.


2. How will you be able to deal with the border issues that are beginning to surface between some of the nations of LU?

Hold a peace conference.


3. How will you be a strong diplomatic outlet to the GMs for LU concerns?

I will air my concerns to the GM in the game forum and also send private messages.


4. How will you facilitate nations to go to the Secretary of State forum for their concerns on LU?

Direct them to the website address: www.nluo.webs.com and help with any technical issues.


5. Why should we vote for you to be Secretary of State?

I have experience as Secretary of State and have had many senior roles and responsibilities on Little Upsilon in varies federations/organizations.

Tom Morgan

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 04:01 am Click here to edit this post
Can NLUO please just have one thread? There's no need for 20 million every week when you guys are holding the ritualistic rigged election.

No one cares about the elections except for about 4 members of the NLUO, so either set up your own forums off-site or keep it contained within one thread here. To prevent that thread getting too long, you perhaps could create a new one each real month. That's acceptable. Seriously though, there's no need for a continuous flood of useless information.

TMorgan out.

King Hezekiah II

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 04:20 am Click here to edit this post
Pay no attention to people who come to make negative comments. They have no organization of their own, so they have to come against ours. Truth be told, without the NLUO this game would SUCK.

Tom Morgan

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 05:15 am Click here to edit this post
My statement wasn't a negative comment; it was a suggestion. Stop spinning stuff in your favour to suit your own self-interests, because everyone with a brain can see what you are doing. The fact that I made a reasonable request, and you blindly rebutted makes me think you are unable to take criticism like a man, and thus are unsuitable for a leadership position of any sort.

"They have no organization of their own, so they have to come against ours." Spin. Merciless spin. Most people here don't want a controlling world government. Enough said.

SweetPea

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 07:18 am Click here to edit this post
Tom, it has only been less than 30 days yet, far from 180. King, ignore him until he is off of probation. It's about to get revoked anyways.

Serpent

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 07:56 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

2. How will you be able to deal with the border issues that are beginning to surface between some of the nations of LU?




What border issues on LU are you referring to?

E is Easy 0 is like 0

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:00 am Click here to edit this post
I agree Tom. Unfortunately, Hezy is a determined spammer, and I have long since given up on attempting reason there.

Not having an "organization" of their own seems to not be holding anyone back...

Hezy perhaps to gain support, you could TRY to get along with the majority of your "minions" that reside on LU instead of starting fights - especially ones who are decent at playing the actual game. You should attempt decency as well.

I honestly have no problem with the concept of the NLUO, I just don't agree with almost any of its leadership or procedures - I keep hoping for change... in vain.

Tom Morgan

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 11:03 am Click here to edit this post
I'm sorry Wendy, but you can't acknowledge me, remember? Or did you just break your own court ruling? Its always wise that you remain respectful to the laws, especially the ones you set for yourself.

:)

TMorgan out.

Crafty

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 12:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Hez is just an insignificant little blot on the landscape of humanity. Its a shame he found this game to ooze his puss upon.

When he realises the futility of his constant babble about running a game planet then maybe it will be the day he can be released into the community.

Until that day, I for one will continue to batter him over the head, in the vain hope it will help some sense be absorbed.

I dont hold out much hope.

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 06:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Tom if you don't like reading about our great government then don't read it; read something else.

We have been inundated with lots of votes cast and the election is not rigged. Please stop spreading lies about the democratic processes.

Also this isn't spam! It's world news!

E is Easy 0 is like 0

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:29 pm Click here to edit this post
No. Its not "World News."

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:31 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes it is!

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:34 pm Click here to edit this post
Over 60 presidents have cast their vote. I'm sure they would agree with me that this is very important world news regarding the Election.

E is Easy 0 is like 0

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:35 pm Click here to edit this post
...

You can vote more than once.

There are not 60 members of NLUO.

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Please get your facts right Easy! You cannot vote for a candidate more than once and also voting is not just restricted to the NLUO government. The international community of Little Upsilon can vote too!

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:40 pm Click here to edit this post
I wish people would stop spreading BS about the NLUO!

E is Easy 0 is like 0

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Me too...

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:49 pm Click here to edit this post
To reiterate the facts: The Elections are completely fair and no president can vote for a candidate more than once because the website won't allow you to do this! If you don't believe me try it for yourself.

www.nluo.webs.com/nluo-election-center

Also any president on Little Upsilon can vote in these elections! Not just NLUO members!

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:50 pm Click here to edit this post
YOU GOT THAT EASY!

E is Easy 0 is like 0

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:51 pm Click here to edit this post
I voted more than once...

Also. ANYONE can vote. It's a free poll. My grandpa can log in and vote - as can players from any world.

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:59 pm Click here to edit this post
You can vote for all the candidates if you mean that but you can't vote for the same candidate more than once.

Ignore Easy people and try it yourself.

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:01 pm Click here to edit this post
That is right anyone can vote in this election because it's a free fair election!

E is Easy 0 is like 0

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:03 pm Click here to edit this post
I've been able to vote for the same candidate. Think it has to do with IPs lol.

Also, why is one able to vote for ALL the candidates Lord Lee?

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:06 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes I believe the IP address prevents people from voting more than once for the same candidate.

E is Easy 0 is like 0

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:09 pm Click here to edit this post
So what happens if you have access to more than 1 IP?

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Most people don't have more than 1 IP address and although the system isn't perfect it works well for us.

Tom Morgan

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:20 pm Click here to edit this post
So I could nominate myself to run, and then vote myself in!

Vote TMorgan 2013.

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:21 pm Click here to edit this post
I would like to thank the many people who have voted for me but the election isn't over yet and the results are close so if you haven't voted for me yet here is your chance:

www.nluo.webs.com/nluo-election-center

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:23 pm Click here to edit this post
You are too late Tom, voting finishes soon. Also I doubt you'd get that many votes.

Lord Lee

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 10:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Also people make sure you vote for our great leader King Hezekiah II. Here's to a third term.

Brandon Gil

Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 11:27 pm Click here to edit this post
OR VOTE for ME.. Com'on guys

King Hezekiah II

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 01:43 am Click here to edit this post
Pay no attention to the haters. They have nothing better to do.

Looks like Secretary Lord Lee is going to win re-election. As he said these elections are fair and free. Yes you can vote for everyone candidate, or the candidate you like the best.

Most people are honest, and will vote for their candidate, but you will always have these 3rd world nations with Presidents who have no integrity.

Generally these neanderthal Nations are the nations who can allows find something wrong. You offer them a drink of water, and they will find a reason that it is wrong to drink water.

They won't piss off, so we must ignore the haters.

Lord Lee

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 02:54 am Click here to edit this post
The results are extremely close. I must say I am a little worried now.


Lord Lee of AA Central
24 Votes

Mohamar Gaddafi of the Libyan Arab Jamariya
23 Votes

President Brandon Gil of Ark
20 Votes

kingdictator of The Democratic Union of Texas
20 Votes

Pope Innocent VI of The Vatican
1 Vote

Lord Lee

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 02:56 am Click here to edit this post
Come on People. Do you really want Gaddafi as Secretary of State?

Vote for Lord Lee.

Lord Lee

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 02:57 am Click here to edit this post
I think we can safely say that the Pope has no chance of winning this.

King Hezekiah II

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 04:48 am Click here to edit this post
Lord Lee is pulling away.

King Hezekiah II

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 04:54 am Click here to edit this post
Voting Results as of Aug 23, 3112

1st Place:Incumbent: Secretary of State President Lord Lee (TNA) AA Central (35) Votes

2nd Place:Challenger: Chief Justice Gaddafi (Hydra Auxilary) Libyan Arab Jamariya (29) Votes

3rd Place:Challenger: President Brandon Gil (TNA) Ark (29)

4th Place:Challenger: Justice Kingdictator (TNA) The Democratic Union of Texas (28) Votes

Last Place:Challenger: Pope Innocent VI (Knights Templar) The Vatican (1) Vote

Election Center: VOTE HERE: http://nluo.webs.com/nluo-election-center

Voting Ends Jan 7, 3113

Tom Morgan

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 12:12 pm Click here to edit this post
" You are too late Tom, voting finishes soon. Also I doubt you'd get that many votes.

Damn. And I could've won, since I have a dynamic IP. That equals unlimited voting power.

When's the next election my dearies?

TMorgan out.

Gaz

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 02:14 pm Click here to edit this post
Good luck Lee. You got my vote.

Lord Lee

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 05:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Gaz

Brandon Gil

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 05:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Still close we have a tie right now for 2nd.

King Hezekiah II

Monday, February 25, 2013 - 06:39 pm Click here to edit this post
This has been a very close election all the way through. Very exciting to watch.

As Secretary General I want to congratulate all the candidates. You all did a great job!!!


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