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Does Little Upsilon Really Have A World Government?

Topics: Little Upsilon: Does Little Upsilon Really Have A World Government?

Tom Fitzpatrick

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 03:56 pm Click here to edit this post
I've been reading through the forums lately and keep coming across references to the NLUO World Government, as well as a federation called Hydra and something about a dispute they went through recently. Could someone please explain what these organisations are and what role they are currently playing on Little Upsilon? For the benefit of less experienced players, who are not familiar with all the details of how Little Upsilon's organisations work, and the state of play of Little Upsilon.

SweetPea

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 05:17 pm Click here to edit this post
I own you, that will be all. You may go now.

Crafty

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 05:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Tom, don't you listen to the wicked old witch of Simcountry.

The NLUO was started by King Heziakah to get players to join together to co-operate in peace and prosperity, a very nice ideal. But, he went about it wrong, having very poor diplomacy and understanding of the game and its players. In fact things went so wrong that Hydra federation was formed to challenge NLUO and give players a freer option. NLUO were very oppressive. Anyways, to cut a long story short, after a few skirishes between them, NLUO backed down as Hydra far out powered them in experience and military hardware.

So, up to date, NLUO still exists and continues its mission to have everyone play under their rules, and so do Hydra, allowing players to play as they want. NLUO still have the ideals of unity I believe whereas Hydras existence is more to keep them on their toes and mentor anyone who wishes to play in their own way.

So that's about my view of it, impartial as I always am. Hope it enlightens you some.

shave

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 05:50 pm Click here to edit this post
that about sums it up. :)

SweetPea

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 05:54 pm Click here to edit this post
The NLUO has NEVER been an oppressive organization, nor has it EVER had the means to be oppressive.

IN FACT, we're so non-oppressive, we even let traitors and defectors to the enemy return to the government with amnesty. Hydra now holds offices in the NLUO as well.

Oppressive, I think not. Where are you people dreaming this stuff up from?

shave

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 06:15 pm Click here to edit this post
The NLUO has NEVER been an oppressive organization, nor has it EVER had the means to be oppressive.


yea says the oppressor lol

IN FACT, we're so non-oppressive, we even let traitors and defectors to the enemy return to the government with amnesty. Hydra now holds offices in the NLUO as well.

you mean the NLUO was defeated by Hydra and Hydra stepped in to assist with the rebuilding / restructuring of the NLUO, just as the United States did in Japan Post WWII :)

SweetPea

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 06:16 pm Click here to edit this post
"yea"... says the traitor.... :s

shave

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 06:21 pm Click here to edit this post
no says the freedom fighter, / revolutionary! :)

King Hezekiah II

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 07:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Here is a link to all the nations and structure of the NLUO World Government https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/16295/21690.html?1362098222

Also here is the link to the NLUO World Government site
http://home.simcountry.com/NLUO/

Read for yourself. Also here is a link to all of the history of the NLUO.

https://www.simcountry.com/discus/messages/4969/21285.html?1359392672

seven_devils

Friday, March 1, 2013 - 07:52 pm Click here to edit this post
It isn't just a reply of "NO". It's a "HELL NO"! ha ha ha

Tom Morgan

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 03:30 am Click here to edit this post
Put simply, there isn't a definite "world status" at the moment. Both sides are telling their side of the story, and refusing to let the other one have any merit. I'm leaning towards believing Hydra now, since everything NLUO puts out seems to be utter garbage. They seriously need a good PR rep, or perhaps even the expulsion of Heze.

Shouldn't have to wait long for a response in the form of a token Lord Lee "don't listen to them; they're wrong wrong wrong" statement or a King Heze "we love Wendy, she can make coloured letters" love poem. :)

seven_devils

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 04:12 am Click here to edit this post
LU is a world composed of many governments and many presidents.

Tom Fitzpatrick

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 06:24 am Click here to edit this post
Hmmmmm, well as far as I can gather from the debate I have seen unfold in front of my eyes right here, Little Upsilon politics is a variant of Earth between 1945-1989. When the world was dominated by two main factions and populated by many neutral nations, the Allies and the Communists. Except now it's the NULO, Hydra and unaligned neutral nations, I'm still yet to decide who is the USA and who is the USSR. In the meantime it seems to me that Little Upsilon is in the midst of a cold war and a monumental power struggle between the great federations of NULO and Hydra.

Aries

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 07:21 am Click here to edit this post
Tom, here is the difference.

Note: I am a member of both the NLUO government and of Hydra.

NLUO: Is not a fed. It aspires to be a world government but currently it is difficult to consider it as such as it lacks enough representation from around LU. There is some debate on how to further legitimize the government. I prefer a softer approach.

It does have a good number of new players to the game currently and I have volunteered to help teach the economic game to its members. Five of my articles are available on the treasury forum that can greatly help new players. I also have assisted some players personally in chat and through in-game messages.

Hydra: Is a federation and a very powerful one. Search the forum for the "Federation Stats" to see the top feds on LU. Hydra's strength is it has active veteran players who are very helpful in the war game.


If you are getting started on LU, I would recommend joining the NLUO and take advantage of the community and resources there. You can choose to leave your fed options open and will unlikely need one until war level 3.

Tom Fitzpatrick

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 07:48 am Click here to edit this post
Thank you Aries, and everyone else who has helped explain the State of play on Little Upislon. I would like to take this moment to declare my neutrality in the political struggles on Little Upislon. I will not (as yet) be joining any political group. I am however, happy to assist in the improvement of our planet and wish to work with other players and build relationships with Presidents and CEOs. For anyone who may wish to get in contact with me, My Nation is The United Nation of Progress and my Enterprise is Wealth Enterprise.

Yours Neutrally and Cooperatively, President & CEO Tom Fitzpatrick, I look forward to working with you all in the future.

King Hezekiah II

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 08:30 am Click here to edit this post
Aries is correct in his assessment. I am the Secretary General of the gov. Aries is the Secretary of Treasury. So, don't be afraid to join.

Tom Fitzpatrick

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 08:46 am Click here to edit this post
What does Ariesâs job of Secretary of the Treasury entail? As far as I know The NULO doesnât have a financial account and budget, so what is Ariesâs responsibility as Treasurer? Thanks everyone for your help.

Tom Fitzpatrick

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 08:47 am Click here to edit this post
What does Aries job of Secretary of the Treasury entail? As far as I know The NULO does not have a financial account and budget, so what is Aries responsibility as Treasurer? Thanks everyone for your help.

Crafty

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 02:17 pm Click here to edit this post
Aries is a very smart economic player Tom, who spends a lot of time working things out. Reading his advice would probably be one of the best things you could do as a new player.

Why Hez dreams up these mad titles for people in the NLUO I have no idea, I guess he thinks it makes them sound more 'official'. So Aries being a good econ player is probably why he is called treasurer, previously it was Lord Lee... well, nuff said there.

You could also look to Josias of Hydra who would have the same title I suppose if Hydra had such a thing. Josias can also show you how to make your stuff very profitable.

Josias

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 07:27 pm Click here to edit this post
My title is "Grand poo-bah of everything"

when your talking about Hydra, i'm actually not the best at anything, in Hydra. Their is some one better than me at any given thing.

Crafty

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 08:59 pm Click here to edit this post
You're too modest Josias.

PS. It's 'there' is, not their is... ;)

David Kroessberg

Saturday, March 2, 2013 - 10:31 pm Click here to edit this post
Shave a revolutionary? How natural :)

jabnet

Sunday, March 3, 2013 - 12:27 am Click here to edit this post
Seven Devils - is there something going on i should know about? i have my suspicious, untrusting snow white kitty-cat with me righ
Oww! she just clawed me, agh! I'm bleeding Seven Devils! Omg, I'm bleeding! Can you HELP ME? ;)

Lord Lee

Monday, March 4, 2013 - 10:19 pm Click here to edit this post
The NLUO are the world government of Little Upsilon!

King Hezekiah II

Monday, March 4, 2013 - 11:35 pm Click here to edit this post
Agreed

shave

Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - 12:25 am Click here to edit this post
NLUO is a collection of nations working towards a better LU that is all. nothing more. there are elements within its ranks that call it the World government. but World Governments are not beaten into submission by foreign armies. lol :)

shave

Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - 12:25 am Click here to edit this post
agreed! lol :)

Serpent

Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - 12:37 am Click here to edit this post
Some in the NLUO want to be a 'world government' instead of a federation. The 'experiment' has been a failure. Kinda like the first female to tryout for the NFL earlier this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWqK5ji7BpQ

After her 2 kicks which traveled a whole 19 and 13 yards she says she got injured, but like one of the comments for the video said...

Quote:

No way in hell cankles ever played sports competitively. She just set women back 20 years. Don't be surprised if women lose their right to vote because of this.




Well sad to say, the NLUO will have to work very hard to 'prove' itself. Some in the NLUO have set the government back 20 years. It can be done, but there has been much damage.

P.S. Ladies no offense, there are certain things men cant do either... like have babies! LOL, man I better stop myself as Im not making and progress here!

Disclaimer: This post was made in fun! Seriously no offense was meant. You gotta admit, it is funny!

Pope Innocent VI

Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - 01:23 am Click here to edit this post
We need God back in politics

James the Fair

Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - 02:07 am Click here to edit this post
Well I never wanted the NLUO to be a world government anyway but made up of a few federations of strong players keeping the other non NLUO players in check who pose a serious threat. My idea would be to create 5 federations which would each cover 2 continents each under these names.

NLUO Northeast (Draca Mixor and Centura Donna)

NLUO Northwest (Lynx Minor and Paova Major)

NLUO Central (Eridana and Virginia Bella)

NLUO Southwest (Atilia Major and Auriga Bella)

NLUO Southeast (Hercula Major and Lacerta)

This would make it much more stronger and organized in order to police the world of who is actually part of the NLUO and whos not, compared with the current system where other players who are using their own federation names who are claiming to be part of NLUO. As this is why i'm confused of who is my ally and who is my enemy now. Which is making the whole so called world government weak because of these loose coalitions who could change alligience at any time, and we are not united enough in how the way the growing 'Hydra' and 'Sleeping Giants' feds are.

However in respect of Hezekiah, I will not change in how the way things are run at the moment unless he wishes to.

Serpent

Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - 02:19 am Click here to edit this post
You guys have all the tools to be a good federation. Seriously. But language such as this..

Quote:

This would make it much more stronger and organized in order to police the world


is what has been destroying the whole endeavor. Why are you guys so bent on dominating other presidents? Why do you want to 'police' the whole planet? Cant you see that this rhetoric is self-defeating?

Just be a good fed, one that takes care of its own members and looks out for its own members interest. That would serve you much better.

seven_devils

Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - 02:43 am Click here to edit this post
I echo Serpent's post. It is what I told Hezzy from the get-go. Such terminology will never lend to a peaceful existence. I for one, and my federation, will NOT be "policed" by anyone or controlled by anyone.

I do look forward to coexisting with the NLUO. But as far as the answer to #1 on the agenda of Lord Lee's "Peace Conference", the only aggressive organization that "tries" to threaten other federations or the peaceful existence of other players is the NLUO with such wrongful statements.

King Hezekiah II

Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - 07:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Serpent you took his statement out of context, and you did not post the entire thought.

I understand what you think Secretary James, but the purpose of the World government is for all nations to be able to be apart of a political Process. Maybe post this in the fed congress at the gov site, and we can debate it, and maybe pass legislation on it.

Crafty

Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - 10:01 pm Click here to edit this post
LMAO, there is that stupid word again, 'legislation'. I don't know about you guys, but I play a game to get away from the rules and 'legislation' of real life.

jabnet

Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - 01:20 am Click here to edit this post
Crafty. I play this game because I can drink heavily and not be arrested.

Newcastle - "We don't trust cats because they don't drink"

King Hezekiah II

Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - 04:34 am Click here to edit this post
Agreed jabnet

Crafty

Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - 01:49 pm Click here to edit this post
You drink heavily Hez?

Well, there you go, that explains a lot of your muddled thinking.

seven_devils

Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - 04:35 pm Click here to edit this post
@ Jabnet
"Seven Devils - is there something going on i should know about? i have my suspicious, untrusting snow white kitty-cat with me righ
Oww! she just clawed me, agh! I'm bleeding Seven Devils! Omg, I'm bleeding! Can you HELP ME? ;)

Yes, Jabnet, I have instructed your kitty to be a mad kitty and draw blood so that I may feed upon you! I want you in my fed!!!!! Join Bad Meets Evil. You will live to not regret it!

jabnet

Thursday, March 7, 2013 - 06:03 am Click here to edit this post
@ Seven Devils

You shall never take me alive, err dead, or whatever! Where's my silver bullets? Oh no, the cat got 'em. Hey wait, cats do not have opposable thumbs, they can't use bulle
*BANG*

seven_devils

Thursday, March 7, 2013 - 03:50 pm Click here to edit this post
ha ha ha ha ha

I gots my evil eye on you, Jabnet. I've already taken over Mad Kitty, I want YOU next! *laughs evilly

Lord Lee

Thursday, March 7, 2013 - 10:07 pm Click here to edit this post
I am the Secretary of State of the world government on Little Upsilon elected by you the public.

King Hezekiah II

Friday, March 8, 2013 - 06:35 am Click here to edit this post
Indeed. It is funny how the International community will vote for their leaders to represent them, but when it is time to represent, they don't want to acknowledge what they voted for. No wonder govs become corrupt.

darcus

Friday, March 8, 2013 - 07:29 pm Click here to edit this post
I didn't vote for anyone and i don't accept anyone as my leader or my government. So you cannot say that you are world government since you are not, expect in case that i am and many other players are "aliens" or we are not worthy to be on this planet.

But without this discussions this would be a boring world :D

Serpent

Friday, March 8, 2013 - 08:53 pm Click here to edit this post
Nobody can trust or put faith in something that is weak. Therefore nobody actually takes them serious. There have been attempts to make them more respectable, but they reject the much needed help.

Tom Morgan

Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 06:31 am Click here to edit this post
No no no no no.

NLUO is not the LU government. Its the NLUO Government. It has no control over anything outside of that, and anyone can do anything they please without any fear of NLUO doing diddly-squat.

NLUO is not elected by the people of LU. It is elected by the members of NLUO. It has no control over anything outside of that.

I think its time we sent a letter out to mental hospitals: we have a rather large collection of overly-thick psychos here. Honestly though, the thickness of some members- namely King Heze and Lord Lee- is astounding.

Tom Morgan

Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 06:35 am Click here to edit this post
" Indeed. It is funny how the International community will vote for their leaders to represent them, but when it is time to represent, they don't want to acknowledge what they voted for. No wonder govs become corrupt.
~King Heze

None of the people on this thread criticising you actually voted in the NLUO. It is a fringe organisation with several loud-mouthed players that has little to no influence on a player's individual decisions.

Lord Lee

Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 06:47 pm Click here to edit this post
The World Government N.L.U.O. is going from strength to strength; we are helping build a great world democracy.


Secretary of State Lord Lee.

SweetPea

Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 07:08 pm Click here to edit this post
How do you know that Tom? Oh, you don't.

Lion

Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 08:07 pm Click here to edit this post
I am part of the LU community and I don't see the NLUO as a world(LU) government. There is no way for you to inforce your laws, as has been seen in the recent past.
In order to be a world government shouldn't you have all parties of different federations on your side? Similiar to the UN?

Lord Lee

Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 09:31 pm Click here to edit this post
New players like Lion aren't yet familiar to the politics and world commerce which the N.L.U.O. are central too.

For those of you who aren't in the know. The N.L.U.O. are the World Government of Little Upsilon. The reason why this is so is because King Hezekiah II and I were democratically elected by presidents from the entire planet who each had a vote to vote us in. Not only were the elections fair but lots of votes were cast by many presidents such was the interest.


Secretary of State Lord Lee.

Crafty

Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 10:14 pm Click here to edit this post
A tiny proportion of all the presidents on LU got involved Lee. The faeces oozing from your keyboard onto this forum is becoming a health hazard. Please take your excrement to the colostomy bag that is your nluo forum.

Lord Lee

Saturday, March 9, 2013 - 11:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Crafty say something positive or don't bother!

King Herod VI

Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 01:36 am Click here to edit this post
The NLUO is the government of nations who want to participate in the government. The international community is just that. An international community of players some governed by the NLUO, some not. Some Federations are apart of the government, some federations are not. Some federations have players from their federations in the government or even branches of federations in the government. Do we govern the whole fed? NO!!! Why is this concept so hard to grasp?

Tom Morgan

Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 02:44 am Click here to edit this post
"How do you know that Tom? Oh, you don't."
~Wendy

How do you know that I don't know that, Wendy? Oh, you don't.

Anyways, wanna hear a joke? NLUO.

**Baddum tish**

dillonmittan

Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 06:07 am Click here to edit this post
NLUO is only looking for a fight when they say they govern LU. Wars start with words and when you try imposing laws on countries that didn't pledge their allegiance to you,there will be war. This is why Hydra (and their powerful players) stepped in. The powerful players don't like being told what to do or how to act. There are also neutral factions such as "Bad meets Evil" that are (to my understanding) still neutral in this conflict but aren't necessarily fans of a "world government" that would tell them what to do... In conclusion, NLUO better work on their PR before they try "governing the world" and they need to learn to actually enforce their "laws" if they ever want any respect. Then again, that would turn them from being wanna-be tyrants to full force New World Order Global Domination tyrants... And that always comes at the cost of potentially billions of lives and shattered nations.

Crafty

Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 02:13 pm Click here to edit this post
Ewww.... monkey poo all over my monitor...


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