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Peace Discussion

Topics: Little Upsilon: Peace Discussion

Serpent

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 07:18 am Click here to edit this post
I decided to title this thread with the word 'Peace' as this is exactly the kind of peace certain presidents have been pushing for. After many many threats and several hostile proposals introduced to the Security Council by this group of presidents my empire has been FORCED to take action. There have even been threats made to other members of NLUO asking for help and support in a planned offensive. The time for talk is over.

Since this involves the senior leaders of the NLUO, I respectfully ask that the other members of NLUO use the powers they have been given and publicly condemn the hostilities that your senior leadership has continued to exhibit. I ask that you remove from positions of authority those who show such a disregard for the self determination of other LU presidents. However I understand if you decide to get involved in this issue. If you do choose to involve yourselves, then you will suffer the consequences. As this involves the senior leadership you MUST distance yourself from this group of 'so called leaders'! There are some in your government that do not want to suffer because of the actions of the leadership, I hope that you will support me in this endeavor and show yourselves to be the type of responsible president that any planet, any fed would view as a privilege to have.

I am willing to acquiesce and not fire a single shot if these two conditions are met.

1) Mr Hez, Lee or James the Fair start or sign a proposal of any kind against any Hydra member or its allies and make a public apology for such past errors in judgement here in the very thread.

2) The above said group publicly agrees to not exhibit any aggression toward any Hydra member or its allies.

This is not negotiable.

It is truly sad that this action must be taken. However to establish the fact that the very thing these 'Jabroni's' complain about I will not fire a single nuke, unless they fire them first. I implore them to accept this term so that no harm will become of Mr Fairs country.

Tom Morgan

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 01:04 pm Click here to edit this post
Fair enough Serpent. There isn't any excuse for NLUO to be unreasonably hostile when they are actually the underdogs in this situation, and should be setting a better example if they wish to be considered anything resembling a "world government".

Hopefully they can see sense.

James the Fair

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 03:31 pm Click here to edit this post
What! while you talk of 'peace' you were the one who has declared war on my country in the first place for no apparent reason, and now you expect ME to apologize for something that I said by saying that having 2 hydra countries in the decembra region is unacceptable? I don't think so!

Also you should just remember that there is a freedom of speech here and there you are, trying to suppress it by being agressive and declaring war on me. So if anyone is to apologize on this very thread, it's you Serpent.

Serpent

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 03:45 pm Click here to edit this post
You can use your freedom of speech whenever you please. I would not attempt to suppress that in any way. However with that freedom comes responsibility and you have been irresponsible.

This is not because of countries in the Decambra region. This is because of the sanction you and your group have tried to enforce and vow to continue to try to enforce. This is because of the begging for support from other LU presidents for assistance in planned hostilities.

Also, lets get this straight, Im NOT talking peace. As I said the time for that is over. You have 'rattled the cage.' You have exercised your freedom, now it is time to face the consequences. Do you think we would allow you to spew your lies, accusations, threats and hostilities without any recompense? If so, I DO APOLOGIZE for your ignorance.

I have offered you terms so that your country does not suffer harm. Just accept them and you will be fine.

seven_devils

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 03:51 pm Click here to edit this post
@ James' "What! while you talk of 'peace' you were the one who has declared war on my country in the first place for no apparent reason, and now you expect ME to apologize for something that I said by saying that having 2 hydra countries in the decembra region is unacceptable? I don't think so!"

Dearest James,

For no apparent reason?????! Ooooooooooooooh thou doest amuse me to no end!

PS. Tell your Pancake friend, I SEE and KNOW ALL!!!! All I have to do is look into my crystal ball! *laughs evilly

Aries

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 03:52 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree with this. Members of TNA have poked the largest animal in the zoo, Hydra, with a stick for too long.

Now your error is apparent..

Now the beast is loose!

seven_devils

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 04:50 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm feeling kinda neighborly. I think Imma gonna move to Decambra and snuggle up to James the UNFAIR. I wants his shoes! :P

Crafty

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 05:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Really James. You have prodded the snake once too many. He has rattled his tail and showed you his fangs enough. Now you will feel his bite and suffer his venom.

Your only way out is to run, and to get the antidote by meeting his, I must say, very calm, requests.

Tom Fitzpatrick

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 05:32 pm Click here to edit this post
This isn't a war, it's a massacre, James from what I see you've lost two nations to Serpent already and are about to loose the greatest nation in your empire, The Anglo Saxon Kingdom, which houses over half your population. For the sake of peace on LU surrender and apologize to Serpent, is pride really worth all this bloodshed and the destruction of the nation u have built?

Crafty

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 05:45 pm Click here to edit this post
Actually, it has to be said that James can't back down now. He is standing up for his position and that has to be a good strength in his character.

A better strength would have been not to dig himself this hole in the first place of course.

Serpent

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 07:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Its been said it takes a big man to admit his guilt. I ask that James and his crew be the 'big men' and..... beg.... no, meet my simple demands.

Jackseptic

Monday, March 11, 2013 - 10:19 pm Click here to edit this post
i support your actions serp they have really been proding you for awhile now. im really kinda surprised in there response do to all the smack they have been talking, sounded like they wanted war ? HYDRA stands united.

James the Fair

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 01:52 am Click here to edit this post
I'm going to put everything straight here so here goes......

Crafty I think I only prodded him twice but i'm not even sure about that, well maybe I did prod him more times than I can remember, but I can tell you one thing though, it certainly has'nt taken long for him to react so I can only think he's one of those easilly offended types.

And you're not grabbing my old school shoes Lorelei lol :P, they're something to remind of from those horrible days, and besides I wear the non laced type of boots now. I think they're Derby boots or something like that, and you're not grabbing those either lol :P. In regards to this game, I don't need anymore neighbours thanks. I'm happy with the ones i've got but I do need a strong reliable ally close to me though.

Also Tom, like you say it's going to be more like a massacre than a war but i'm willing to hold myself out for as long as I can. I hav'nt even lost any countries to him yet, although i've been conquering and closing countries down a lot just recently, so i'm just not sure where i'm going to settle just yet as the amount of population is irrelevent at the moment. I've always taken pride and honour over everything else when it comes to crisises like this.

I've noticed you say it takes a big man to admit his guilt Serpent. What guilt?! what are you talking about? i've done nothing wrong as I believe what i've done is right in order to try and make you shift out of that region, and would do so again when it suits me.

Kel

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 02:28 am Click here to edit this post
"Crafty I think I only prodded him twice but i'm not even sure about that, well maybe I did prod him more times than I can remember, but I can tell you one thing though, it certainly has'nt taken long for him to react so I can only think he's one of those easilly offended types. "


The first step to your recovery is admitting you have a problem. You are part of the way there! Haha.

King Hezekiah II

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 02:34 am Click here to edit this post
EXTERMINATE!!!!

Serpent

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 03:56 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

Crafty I think I only prodded him twice but i'm not even sure about that, well maybe I did prod him more times than I can remember,




Thats part of the guilt Im speaking of.

Also, why do you guys expect me to leave Decambra and leave two fedmates alone with you guys? Futhermore, how do you think that trying to pass resolutions (that have failed) against me gonna make me react? You pushed and pushed, now its time to answer for your errors. Either by meeting those conditions, or by fighting. Your choice.

seven_devils

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 04:59 am Click here to edit this post
I find myself drawn to you, James the Unfair. Yup, I GOTS to be your neighbor!!!

dillonmittan

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 08:16 am Click here to edit this post
EXACT QUOTE!!
"I've noticed you say it takes a big man to admit his guilt Serpent. What guilt?! what are you talking about?" ~ James the Fair

LOL! Am I the only one that caught this?

Tom Morgan

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 08:38 am Click here to edit this post
"EXTERMINATE!!!!
~King Heze

Yes, because the last time you tried that worked out so well for you...

James the Fair

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 12:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Great! you can be next door to me AND to Pancakes at the same time Lorelei. Have a look in that region and you'll see where I mean.

Heres the heads up Serpent, if you attack with nuclear weapons, i'll most certainly be trying to enforce a nuke ban on you, but looking at what you've got in those countries I don't see any which will prove you'll have what it takes to fight a real battle.

Mind you though I know you've imported those weapons from all those other countries on the different planets and space docks you've got, how else would you have built up that many forces in such a short amount of time? but with that gold coin option thing gone now, it's only a matter of time you will probulary cut back on most of it and thus weakening your ridicoulous amount of military power, so don't get too cocky now and enjoy it while you can while you might not have it forever.

While i'm one of many powers on LU, Serpent is a Multi-Planetary power. What the hell have I done? lol

Serpent

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 04:09 pm Click here to edit this post
So what are you trying to say?

seven_devils

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 06:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Ooooooh you are near the Pancake? Ooooooooooh too tempting. I would eat him for breakfast! I have to watch my girlish figure you know!!! I will think on this!

Crafty

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 08:59 pm Click here to edit this post
You should check the line behind Serpent, James...

"Ticket number 385 please"

Antonio Cameron

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 09:14 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm in Decambra, In secured mode so you can't turn it into a NULO only place as long as im on LU.

Pancakes LU

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 10:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Seven_devils, shut up. You won't do nothing. And Antonio, shut up. As soon as u reach war lvl 3 i will bomb the shit out of u like im gunna do on WG

jmcwhelan96

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 01:42 am Click here to edit this post
pancakes your still wl1 sooo pipe down will ya idc for either side but your attitude is tempting me to invest in my military again.

jmcwhelan96

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 01:46 am Click here to edit this post
And plus pancakes is it really the best idea to be insulting a neutral fed? you already have your hands full you could hardly handle another country much more 22 more players.

Pancakes LU

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 02:53 am Click here to edit this post
Excuse me but please state your country and what federation you are in? Please invest in your military..im most likely investing more than you are. And im going on war level 2 soon. What war level are you in?

jmcwhelan96

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 03:04 am Click here to edit this post
Soviet republic, new branch leader for BME and iv been war level two for like a month now

Antonio Cameron

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 03:07 am Click here to edit this post
Pancakes im not going war level two you idiot im gonna become an economic powerhouse on Wg soon enough, and on lU lol im only on there cause Xbox wanted me to go with him

Pancakes LU

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 03:10 am Click here to edit this post
Ahh i see...Xbox is a scared and wanted to bring his other scared friend with him...smooth. And JMC, i started on LU like a month ago -__-. When i become war level 3, i will make sure i attack you first :)

jmcwhelan96

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 03:15 am Click here to edit this post
lol your dumb to attack a neutral federation member first of all without the support of your current fed mates, second of all on a player whos played longer then you, three a former member of you current federation and supporter of it, and finally someone who had both a larger econ and resources available to him.

Brandon Gil

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 03:41 am Click here to edit this post
WW2 its coming... DOOMSDAY! Build some cleaning crews up, I smells nukes and chems being used.

Snazzy

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 04:32 am Click here to edit this post
I have to say that I'm really loving all this smack talk.....guess I picked a good time to check back into simcountry.

seven_devils

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 05:55 am Click here to edit this post
Pancakes, you will cease and desist bullying my mates or you and I will go shoe to shoe! BEWARE!!!


Did you tell me to shut up???!!!!!!! You are courting death. Be warned! :P

Serpent

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 07:30 am Click here to edit this post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE


Quote:

it certainly has'nt taken long for him to react




You got that right. 4 Game Days! I strike fast because Im a Serpent. NO NUKES!!!

If you are interested in purchasing your country back, message me.

Pancakes LU

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 10:37 am Click here to edit this post
ITS CALLED LEAVING THE FED AND JOINING BACK WHEN IM DONE. And yes im telling u to shut up

James the Fair

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 11:20 am Click here to edit this post
I've no GC's to purchase the country back but I don't even want it back anyway, I had loads of AA batteries and ammo at Q250 to first shoot all your heli wings down, then strike at your undefended forts and cities with my Heavy artillery, but it does'nt matter now. I hope you can accept my terms of surrender in exchange you can keep my captured country?

I was very surprised to see that you lost over 200 bombers to my interceptors from my secured main, I did'nt think I would take out that many which alone is a great achievement for me of which I know that your loss of those bombers is nothing to you.

Overall I had no chance against you against all those overwhelming odds, this is why I thought of this 'Overall defence Index levels' idea to stop this unfair play from happening.

'Overall defence Index level Quote'

"I've also noticed that these certain players that threaten to declare war on them are usually those who are near war level 3 or those that are in secured mode or some other form of war protection. Well the truth is... as well as myself, we are all too afraid to fight. As they all know that many of them have a military arsenal that is probularly well over a 100 times more powerful than theirs. So how can anybody ever see PvP wars thrive again when odds like this are overwhelmingly appalling?"

Except the difference was, I was willing to be brave enough to go up to war level 3, maybe running my mouth a little but so what and look what i've got. I'm not surprised nobody's going to go up the war levels and probularly never will and will most likely quit and leave the game before then if this is whats going to happen all the time everytime they want to say what they think of one another, theres no fair play here as you just proven my point, like I thought all along.

Well if theres no fair play here, why even bother playing the game like many others that come and go and leave their countries inactive.

jmcwhelan96

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 03:05 pm Click here to edit this post
pancakes pancakes pancakes. you really should check yourself before you wreck yourself.

seven_devils

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 04:06 pm Click here to edit this post
Pancakes,

You need to be warned. I'm building and prepping and will come for you, but on MY terms. Please be aware that while you bully and harrass MY mates, we have supporters in this game that will make you take off running with your tail between your legs. Your NLUO group is weak and cannot stand up to the support against you. You need to cease and desist or better yet....SHUT UP!!!! ha ha ha

Serpent

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 04:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes James, you took a few of my bombers at the start of the military action. You had a 2 wing response for a short time. But you didnt have enough of them and they were low quality.

James its a simple as this, if you do not have the desire or ability to defend yourself, then you must be more conscience about the things you say and do. The problem here is that you have been playing this game long enough that you cannot (even though your actions and style may or may not show) claim noobness. Even then, you had the opportunity to keep this from happening. I played this game for 3-4 years then took a leave of absence. I sold EVERYTHING off. This account was started May 21,2012. This account is not even a year old. The arsenal I have was obtained through much time and effort devoted to the game.

But the point remains, if you feel that you had no chance against me, why did you start this mess? Of course what you do is up to you, thats why I said earlier

Quote:

You can use your freedom of speech whenever you please. I would not attempt to suppress that in any way. However with that freedom comes responsibility and you have been irresponsible.




Either way, I hope you learned a lil bit about the war engine and enjoyed yourself because the war part of the game is very entertaining isnt it?

James the Fair

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 04:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Well for you it was entertaining, I did'nt even have a chance to fire a single shot, I was just beginning to build up to 100 defence wings as I have ammo for that many planes, but all I could do was just to see the results as i've learned a little bit about the war engine for example.....

My secured main's defence wings defended that country against the incoming bombers, no thanks to my useless or cowardly NLUO allies. Even the beginners could have spared their defence wings they start off with.

War level 3 is definitely not the level to be, since even the most powerful can be in this level and going up to war level 9 under the current game rules, you can be safe from them, like how the way the player Lord Lee has. Who is another NLUO ally.

Like you say the quality was'nt there, even I knew that, as yours was at an average from 300 to even 450. Which means I needed better quality weapons and ammo.

Nevertheless i'm glad it's happened as i've learnt a bit more about war.

Serpent

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 06:54 pm Click here to edit this post
War levels are not the issue here James, as Hydra has higher war level players like Keto, Jack, Scarlet, Super etc... These guys are probably better equipped and skilled than I am.

The issue was exercising your freedom of speech and influence of the Security Council responsibly. You were aggressive in both instances.

I really wish you would have accepted my terms, as they were not HUGE game changing things. However, I am glad you did learn a few things and I hope you continue to improve and wish the best of luck to you.

Nico_Marques Nsjd

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 08:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Pancakes your putting on quite a show...i just wish you would actually do something.
Sincerely,
The person who wants to take Pancakes off the map AKA Xbox

Crafty

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 10:13 pm Click here to edit this post
@ Serp and James.

Serp, you obviously did what you had to very easily and quickly. That was to be expected.

James, I think you showed great character to back up your...somewhat loose...mouth, even when you knew you would be pawned. It's a great shame none of your allies could be bothered to help you.

You've got the stuff to be a well respected player James, I hope I don't sound to condescending. Keep it up bro, just choose your mates more carefully in the future.

Snazzy

Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 12:57 am Click here to edit this post
Couldn't agree more Crafty. Dude may have spouted off and got a black eye for it but at least he didn't turtle like his mates.

dillonmittan

Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 02:32 am Click here to edit this post
Yeah. James you should seriously just pick a different side to fight for or at least regain your strength. At least you didnt abuse war protection like the rest of NLUO

James the Fair

Friday, March 15, 2013 - 02:18 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm currently regaining my strength as I speak dillon, it was just I choose the wrong side on this one as I should have known it would'nt have turned out so well, not very well at all when I did'nt even get a chance to strike, not even once.

Also Nico, leave my Pancake friend alone lol, as he's got the potential to be a good ally of mine as he certainly knows about the war engine on this game.

But i'm also glad that you guys were all willing to follow Pancakes to LU from WG to sort out your disputes between each other, it's only just starting to mix with the troubles that are already on LU, making a dangerous cocktail I would say. Does everyone else think about the same on this?

Aries

Friday, March 15, 2013 - 02:25 pm Click here to edit this post
I haven't had any trouble on LU. Has been very entertaining though.

Brandon Gil

Friday, March 15, 2013 - 02:34 pm Click here to edit this post
I make popcorn everyday before I read the forums. Very fun to read and see things develop rapidly.


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