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IPO's (Little Upsilon)

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Warren Buffett (Little Upsilon)

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16 Nov 2008 17:56Link
My corporations aren't eligible for and IPO. How do i make it so it fits all the criterias for an IPO.
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Anthony King (Little Upsilon)

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17 Nov 2008 07:33Link
You must start making profits first for you'r P/E Ratio to reach under 10 then you can click on the perform public offering.It's base on the quality so check the quality too.Should be 200.The profits should be in positive not negative.Then check you'r P/E Ratio every now and then.Have you'r sales up to 40% to 60% slowly,say 5% each month untill you reach the target and lower 20% to see improvements.Buying strategy should be at 90% then raise 10% on average.Give that a go good luck.
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Warren Buffett (Little Upsilon)

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17 Nov 2008 20:45Link
Thanks ill give that a try.
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Angus88 (Little Upsilon)

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18 Nov 2008 06:15Link
I think there is an actual value requirement now. Usually you can IPO any corporation with a good P/E regardless of anything else. It doesn't appear to be that way anymore.
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Anthony King (Little Upsilon)

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18 Nov 2008 07:28Link
But you must reach P/E Ratio under 10 to become IPO successful.Also to you'r quality supplies for you'r corps should be 196 quality target too.It takes time to reach there along with the upgrades on the effectivity and quality.
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Lex Carter (Golden Rainbow)

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18 Nov 2008 15:58Link
The quality of supplies is of no importance.
Two conditions must be met, Assets more than 100B and a positive erning.

Lex
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Travis Goeringer (White Giant)

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18 Nov 2008 23:35Link
After much discussion in another thread, Lex is correct. As long as you have those 2 things, the rest doesn't matter. My p/e in most of my public corps are at best a 20. They have been more succesful than when they were a state corporation. Their values have doubled and in some cases tripled.
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Nikos (Little Upsilon)

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19 Nov 2008 03:35Link
From the corp page click on shares, that will jump you down to the shares section of the corp page. There you will see what you need to do to be able to IPO.

There are 3 conditions to fulfill.
1. The P/E ratio (Needs to be under 10)
2. Total Assets (Needs to be above $100B - try adding cash to get this up)
3. Value

The value one is messing me up still. I do not know what it needs to be, but it seems to be about $60B.
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coolwind (Golden Rainbow)

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19 Nov 2008 18:53Link
can't see no. 1 on my corp page Nikos.

Also the P/E will not stay below 10 for long. Mine are hitting 10 at 60B value.

I wish the GM would confirm the parameters, or is that part of the game........to suss it out? LOL.

I was depending on regular IPOs to keep the Nationals down below 20 to foil the hostile bids on States.

Now I need to think twice about creating more corps or try selling some to my CEOs in the country
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Travis Goeringer (White Giant)

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19 Nov 2008 23:15Link
I've had the p/e higher and it still does it......30 is what works for me
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Warren Buffett (Little Upsilon)

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20 Nov 2008 00:04Link
Interesting, so whats the general consensus (s.p) ?
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Nikos (Little Upsilon)

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20 Nov 2008 03:12Link
I have had the P/E message on a couple of corps. On those occasions it has been over 75.

On the corps that I have been able to IPO since the update they have all been under 10, so I guessed.

We can get the data. We just need enough data points and we will even be able to build their algorithm.

You can get the assets up by adding cash.
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quaxocal

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20 Nov 2008 04:21Link
P/E must be 20 or less.

Assets must be $100B or more (this one is 100% correct from my experience).


Though larger corporations seem to be able to be done in the low 20's for P/E for some reason.

For the assets, I couldn't IPO a $99.18B corp, but could a $100.16 corp, both with similar P/E ratio (around 5ish).
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Nov 2008 05:20Link
I have been trying to IPO a number of state corporation in the last couple days:

The 100B asset minimum is definitely correct in my experience, I have been adding cash to get just over that limit so I can IPO, and it works. Unfortunately if your corp has 75B in cash, you can't transfer more cash to it...so you can't just dump 90B cash on a corp to get it over the asset limit and IPO it.

P/E maximum 20 in my experience, but the limit could be a bit higher maybe.

I IPO'd a 45B value corporation. So if that is a factor, the floor lower than this.

The "why can't I IPO" messages on the corporation page are totally worthless, and should be mostly ignored.
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Split (White Giant)

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24 Nov 2008 06:03Link
P/E is over 20, i am sure i have IPO'd corps at 30.
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Nov 2008 16:28Link
Ok here's one I tried today that isn't in line with my previous experiences.

101B in assets
106B in value
P/E 15.1

Cannot IPO. No idea why not....corp page claims value is too low and P/E is too high.
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Nov 2008 16:32Link
102B Asset
171B Value
16.2 P/E

No IPO
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Nov 2008 16:48Link
105B Asset
63B Value
11.8 P/E

IPO successful
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Nov 2008 16:53Link
101B Asset
14B Value
4.3 P/E

IPO Successful


I am noting a pretty high Asset\Value ratio in the successful ones, and sub-1 A\V ratio in the ones I can't IPO.
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Nov 2008 16:56Link
104B Asset
67B Value
11.0 P/E

IPO Success! Again an A/V ratio of more than 1.
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Nov 2008 17:02Link
101B Asset
29B Value
2.5 P/E

IPO Good
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Nov 2008 17:05Link
102B Asset
57B Value
14.2 IPO

IPO Fail. I note that this corp lost a teeny bit of money last month. Otherwise the numbers looked promising for an IPO. I'll keep an eye on this one, it'll probably post a profit next month.
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Slare (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Nov 2008 17:08Link
105B Asset
64B Value
6.3 P/E

IPO Success.


27 more corps to IPO....maybe I can collect enough data points all by myself here :)
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Kamihiv (Little Upsilon)

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25 Nov 2008 11:06Link
New to the game but getting a decent feel for the economic side of it fairly quickly.

Just IPO'd 3 more corps this month -- Here were the points:

101.6B Asset
4.5B Value
1.1 P/E
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104B Asset
4.2B Value
1.3 P/E
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103.5B Asset
4.6B Value
0.7 P/E


Have previously done some higher value corps, though I have no idea the effect (haven't been playing long enough to see it) of IPO'ing at such a low value. Was more testing the IPO's with these three with low-values and barely high-enough assets.

Hope the data helps someone come up with some kind of better idea, would be interesting to see what the greater minds of this community/thread can divulge from the info that I don't seem to be able to.
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coolwind (Golden Rainbow)

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25 Nov 2008 12:31Link
here we are:

Hi,



I am sorry for the late reply.



I was looking through recent updates.

We have found an error in IPOs.

The minimum asset value was wrong and was repaired.



It could have influenced the possibility to do an IPO.

The error resulted in very badly financed corporation performing IPOs.



You can probably evade the problem by moving money into the corporation, wait for the asset value to increase and then perform the IPO.



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