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This shocked me...

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Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 04:08 am Click here to edit this post
Checked my Population index and found, that I have 57,001 births and 2,458,866 deaths a year out of a population of 154,500,554? This is wild. Now I better understand why my corps. losing workers.

I have done all what I can do I think, to make a good country that can attract a lot of people.

Health = 119.94 %
Education = 125.45 %
Transportation = 141.79 %
Social Security = 102.00 %

I dont understand what I am doing wrong?


Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 07:21 am Click here to edit this post
I have the same problem! :(

Borg Queen

Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 08:59 am Click here to edit this post
Hektor, those are real bad numbers for such a high Pop, here's what my main has:

Population 170,132,307
Education 202.88
Employment 95.93
Health 181.14
Social Security 124.05

With These numbers my Pop is stable.
You Need way more Education for that size of Pop to adapt to changes in worker-needs for Corps.
If you try to figure out why you loose Pop you should allways take a look at employment, the closer to 100 the more People are attracted.
High health is good for obvious reasons.

Borg Queen

Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 11:07 am Click here to edit this post
but never mind the birth/date numbers, just look at you pop-number and if you got a + or - there


Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 01:10 pm Click here to edit this post
Okay, my education look like this:

Schools 125
High Schools 140
Universities 202

Employment rate is at 97.55

What confuses me is, that my population seen in the "Total population popup", still increasing in a steady curve upwards?

Thats weird...

I can see you have much higher social security and health, maybe thats my problem? I will try to increase that, before I kill off my total population :)

Education too...


Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 01:43 pm Click here to edit this post
I have experimented with high health and low health. In this, I have found a few things. One, Borg Queen is right about ignoring the birth/death numbers. They are useless. Look at the ticker and see if you are gaining or losing pop.

Next thing I found was the issue with high health. It works, for awhile. It is definitely a key factor in growth. However, high levels of it seems to influence the other key factor, which is average age (or, at least, average age is a derivative of various pop group ages which have the real effect).

My current theory is that natural growth is at least primarily, and perhaps totally, dependent on those two things, health and average age. Specifically, how high health is and how low average age is. I have found a high health index, 170-180+, will raise average age and, eventually, eliminate natural growth and start a mild decline in population over time.

I am currently testing a mid-range, 130ish, for health index to see if this strikes a balance for long-term sustained growth.


Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 07:08 pm Click here to edit this post
hektor you need to have equal numbers for your schools highschools and university indexes... the overall index trends no IS your lowest of the 3 so your just wasting money on all the universities and highschools that take you above 125 index


Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 01:22 am Click here to edit this post
I am about to make my education index equal, raise the social security index and build more hospitals. Already now, my population index goes up, the deaths decrease, but births are still going down.

Ill wait and see.

Thanks guys :)


Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 01:45 pm Click here to edit this post
In countries with very large population, birth and death numbers are indeed incorrect and we need to fix them.

The numbers used to be what is showing, but then we have made a change, long time ago, to stop the decline of the population that was very severe in countries with population larger than 50 or 60M.
(and worse when the population was at 150M).

The population can decline a bit, as there are death numbers in the younger groups too and these continue.

A high health index does reduce death cases in all age groups but don't expect the population to grow in you are at 150M.


Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 04:37 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok, thanks Andy

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