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Forcing out Private Corporations (Little Upsilon)

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Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
21 Dec 2008 04:10Link
we should have the ablility to force out ANY private Corporations we don't desire in our countries anymore
sometime you just can't afford to bid on it and the CEO won't move it . so we should have a way to force it out
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VĂ¡li (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
21 Dec 2008 04:46Link
raise tax
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
21 Dec 2008 10:05Link
If you want to force out a specific CEO or corp...nationalize it.

If you cannot afford to nationalize it, sell a GC or two for game cash with which to nationalize it.

Raising the tax will discourage ALL CEOs from investing in your country, which may or may not be what you want.
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Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
21 Dec 2008 20:45Link
Apparently this ceo doesn't mind 70 % taxes and 57% profit sharing
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Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
21 Dec 2008 20:48Link
Also .
he stole my state corps by bidding on them .
Apparently setting Taxes and profit share to hi will allow the game to let ceo's who want to steal countries state corps that arn't for sale in the first place to have them
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John R

All worlds
21 Dec 2008 23:07Link
If he bid on the corps, he bought them - he didn't steal them.
If it makes you any better, in economic terms, he acquired the corporations.

And suggesting a new feature to the whole game simply to deal with your own particular problem won't take you far.
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Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
23 Dec 2008 03:08Link
John
this Game is suppose to be based on Real life Economic, and the last time i went to work if the company didn't want to sell it didn't HAVE to sell because there was no Stock offered it was wholly owned by ONE individle and not the masses.
Now if your talking about the MAFIA this Game IS based on there tactics -We don't like the way you run things and your going to sell if you like it or not.
Prehaps Rob did BID and therefore didn't steal them as you state
but the Tactic's of the Game engine ARE based on the MAFIA Style- and therefore it is Stealing to Force another to sell when they don't wish to
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keto (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
24 Dec 2008 19:25Link
@JohnR, I agree with Grayson. These are our corps. If someone wants to purchase them they need to message that President to see if they want to sell. If not hands off!
It has happened to me a few times.
I'm thinking to declare war when they do that.
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iwin (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
25 Dec 2008 01:16Link
As far as country owned corps go, you can protect your corporations by making them National. There is a little link inside the corporation main page that will allow you to 'Change the Status' of the corporation. If they are National no one can bid on them, they don't even show up in the list of corps to bid on. Want to stop someone from bidding on your corps? Make them national and no one will even know they are there unless they go to the corporations page of your country.

As far as a specific CEO buying/building in your country. Not much you can do there except ask them to leave.

That is all.
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keto (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
25 Dec 2008 05:21Link
I have alot of national corps, but the state corps should also be protected.
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iwin (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
26 Dec 2008 07:21Link
It's very simple, you can move them with one simple click of a link. (Actually doing it over in my head it would be one click for selecting country, one click to select corporations page, one click to select the corporation, and one last click to hit the nationalize; grand total 4 clicks)

You don't want it to be sold, click the links. Very simple I would say.

I have several national corps also, and zero state corps. Why? Because I'm not ready to sell them, they will stay that way until I am.
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ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
26 Dec 2008 18:03Link
I think the cap for making corps national is limited to 20, most countries have more than 20 state corps.

I agree with grayson. He wants to protect his assets.

I disagree with John that asking for a game change from gms is ineffectual. Case in point. When LDI was bullying me, I retaliated by taking out a large amount of their state corps through sneak attacks. They successfully whined enough for Jozi to agree to their game changing request. To keep presidents out of WP for 24 hours following sneak attacks. And the change came rather quickly. I don't think LDI has that kind of pull, but I think it was done in the name of protecting ones assets from unwanted destruction. I think Grayson was correct to state that corps shouldn't be sold because someone has enough money to buy it out, it should be sold because the owner has an intention of selling. I think his request is warranted, i have even posted something stating what he said
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John R

All worlds
26 Dec 2008 20:20Link
The game economy game is based on Economical Principles. If you know even a few, you will see them mirrored here.

The way those Principals are weaved is at our choosing. They cannot blindly mimic or be limited by the quandaries of the real world. They are to be ordered under the concept of this game and aimed towards the objective(s) of the same.

The way corporations are bought, with or without consent, isn't a question for economics but for legality. And with no rules forbidding what was done, it is legal, it is okay.

If you do not want your corporations sold, serve of the current legal frame, nationalize them.


Changes are done on what is clearly a mistake of the game and what players turn into a mistake. Do not confuse them.
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Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 07:28Link
then this is CLEARLY a mistake of the game that the Players have used to there advantage.
apparently I'm not the only one to complain or to have complained about this issue.
and Economical Principles are let the Other person have a choice to. presently the only other way to stop it once it begans is to make the market value higher and thus raise the bid.
BUT no where does anyone have a TRUE Choice to stop it short of Either nationalizing and/or Raiseing the Market Value which is not always a possible venue.
so in the interest of FAIR PLAY,
i would suggest either:
1) make it a choice to sell
2) enable a Longer auction time and truely give(the player) the corporation thats being bid on a chance to bring the market value up.
In my case 3 of the corps went over nite while i slept and i did try and bring the market value up on the other 3.
LEGAL doesn't mean right
If put up to a proposal and voted
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John R

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 13:36Link
Of course not, because it is no mistake.
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Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 18:26Link
AH the Dang MAFIA scum Tactic's will be allowed to contunie then.
Thats sad when the designers WILL NOT repair a Problem because it would make the Game more fair to NEW players and OLD alike while adding an element of challange to the rich and powerful by FORCING them to negotiate for other peoples corporations.
MAYBE it is bases on Government principles to
let the rich TAKE what the Poor have
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John R

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 21:25Link
Yes, yes, Gray. This is all about you and what you think. Have a lolly.
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Grayson301

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 21:42Link
Ah i hurt your feelings John
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John R

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 21:54Link
Obviously. It's perfectly natural for people with hurt feelings to offer lollies. It's their trademark.
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Grayson301

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 22:00Link
And obviously it's not all about me considering that i have not been the only one to complain abou tthis Issue. BUT OH if you had READ all the postings on this thread and obviously some other older ones you would know that
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John R

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 22:08Link
I've read all of the posts in this forum for the past three years. You?

You better start accepting other views on life. You can start by this game.
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Grayson301

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 22:41Link
You better start accepting other views on life. ?
Or what you see that i'm boycotted or worse case i'm banned from the Game
SEE i have this God given right to Speak out and Choose what i do
Sim Country on the other hand wants to continue there underhanded game play policies.
and when my time runs out or I'm out of the REAL money i have invested then i can Choose to SPEND MORE or move on to other things
so JOHN R finish the threat
Seems like your the one having the ISSUE of ACCEPTING other views
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John R

All worlds
27 Dec 2008 23:08Link
LOL Have another lolly!
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Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
28 Dec 2008 05:07Link
ah can i have a cherry one please
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Pathetic Sheep (White Giant)

All worlds
29 Dec 2008 09:51Link
Grayson,

On your country's home page go to "settings". Find the phrase "block CEOs". Use your mouse and put an X in that box.

Without CEOs in your country you will always be a poor weak slum. CEO corporations create cash for your country. On the corporations page there is a line that says "country resources used". In all of your state and national corporations that line is $0. In all of your CEO owned corporations it is much more than 0. In most cases country resources used is larger than the company profit. That means you earn more cash from a corporation than the CEO even if taxes are at 0%.