Abolish country resource payments and replace them with an adjustable labor tax.

I recently examined the privately owned corporations in my country, and I realized than many of them hadn't made any money in a long time, and were hardly contributing anything to my country in the form of country resource payments. These corporations should have closed down a long time ago because they were failing, but instead, many of them were receiving regular financial bailouts from the enterprises which controlled them, and were still not contributing anything to my country in the form of country resource payments. I examined the financial information of all of the private corporations in my country, and I saw that only about half of them were making a profit. However, because the size of a private corporation's country resource payments are relative to the profitability of that corporations, the fifty-percent of the corporations which were producing a profit accounted for nearly one-hundred percent of my government's monthly income, and

I agree +1

It's based on production. Not Profit.

correct, mr new guy

"It's based on production. Not Profit."

Well, for whatever reason, whenever I look at a private corporation in my country which isn't earning a profit, it usually isn't contributing anything in the form of country resource payments either. The advantage to a labor tax is that it will affect all corporations equally in proportion to the number of workers they use, regardless of how well or poorly those corporations are being managed, whereas country resource payments place the greatest burden on the corporations which are being managed the best, and place little to no burden on the corporations which are being managed the worst.

just cuz the CEO not making profit dont mean u arnt.

You get salaries, taxes, country res. In the hole plot you make over 50% his/her total income. I personally dont see the point in punishing them more with another tax. CEO are working hard as it is on FB

Shut the f*&K up and learn to play the game.

(thats not aimed specifically at you SS).

crafty this player does have some small valid agurments that do need looking into, but like most things in this game you have 2 options accept and move on and HOPE things will get better, or b@@@ch and moan wanting change as the norm now!

@ SuperSoldierRCP & Crafty: I wasn't suggesting that simcountry add another tax to the game. I was merely suggesting that simcountry discontinue a form of tax which disproportionately affects the most well managed corporations, and replace it with one which will affect all corporations more or less equally.

Think about it: Your enterprise corps in your country CAN HAVE THAT 2 BILLION OFF THEIR INCOME REMOVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ Azyren1: I already know that getting rid of country resource payments would take a huge bite out of my country's income. However, I believe that replacing country resource payments with a labor tax which can be adjusted by the president, would serve the same purpose for the country. The only difference is that a labor tax would tax enterprises based upon the number of workers which they use, rather than based upon the production and/or profitability of the corporation. This would merely distribute the burden more evenly among all private corporations, whereas country resource payments unfairly penalize the more successful corporations while at the same time subsidizing the less successful corporations.

I see what you're saying, but this also adds a further punishment to corporations in industries that have taken a downturn.

Like, I've had seen an industry go green for a while and the corporations in it lose 1B a month and quickly bleeds cash out of the enterprise.
If you increase the amount that such a corporation must pay to its host country every month, it becomes even more dangerous to the enterprise that owns it.

@ Kitsune: I agree that replacing country resource payments with a labor tax would make business more risky when the market is down, but it would also make business more profitable when the market is up. Nonetheless, I see your point. However, if the proposed labor tax could be set for each country by the country's president, CEOs could negotiate with the president over whether the country should rely more on a labor tax which would affect all corporations more-or-less equally, or else rely more on a corporate profits tax which would only affect corporations when they were making money. What I am proposing is replacing country resource payments with a labor tax which is ADJUSTABLE by the president of a country. I a president wanted to, they could theoretically set their country's labor tax to ZERO, and rely instead on corporate profit payments for their national income. My proposal would merely give presidents the ability to choose between taxing c

it may seem good to you but

Now many news would take a C3 and max it out? Raise the taxes without knowing?

When it comes to new players and issues like this dont change it something set limits are important

If The Republic of Kachtka improved it's welfare, the corps in your country would do better. It's not easy making money in a country with such low infrastructure and social security. Worry more about making your country a better place to invest in than micromanaging the corps already there. The welfare of your country adversly affects the productivity of the corps, which is why they're underperforming... Not to mention youre worried about profitability when you have 0% tax? You wont see an extra dime from a profitable corp vs an unprofitable one with 0% tax.... they pay you the same country resources. How many private corps did you lose with your mass msg threatening nationalization of all those corps? Looks like it was about 15. Ouch...

You're on Fearless Blue. You have to have some sense about the horrible state of the FB economy. It's difficult enough to make profit due to the gluttony of automated C3 over-production.

if a corp is losing money continously it's market value drops, this is a good thing for you. Buy the corp when it has more cash then market value and money off the inquisition.

You can take your employees back by increasing your corps salaries. If you don't have any. you can make some for that purpose and IPO them later if you want the benefits of a CEO. This is simple really, i'm not saying the suggestion is bad really, I'm saying your reasoning is.

What you need to do is develop a sense of competition. In the business world there are only enemies or friends. If the CEO is neglectful he will either not compete with you for labor costs (which can lead to a stronger welfare index) or his salaries are too high and he fall of the edge with no market value and bankruptcy if they are too high to compete with.

I kind of like the suggestion though, my enterprise sucks right now, and I think I can spin the em

Private corporations always contribute to the countries where they reside and they pay very large amounts of money. Countries with many private corporations are making very large profits.

first they pay a percentage of their revenue, profitable or not.
There is always revenue and they pay part of it.
then, if they are profitable, they pay taxes.

In addition, they pay salaries to many workers and these workers pay part of their salary in taxes to the country.

even if an enterprise is making a loss, it remains a net large contributor to the countries where the corporations are.

I just saw a large enterprise with 8T in revenue per game month, making a small profit only but the total contribution was 1.8T per game month.
In addition, another 1T per game month was paid in taxes, directly and indirectly by the workers.

This is a total of 16.8T per day, shared by all the countries where the corporations res

"There is always revenue..."

I'm not sure that is 100% accurate. I have CEO corps that pay NO country resource fees at all, for several months in a row, if not making profit. So its not regardless of profit. I'm sure it still pays income tax from the workers and corp tax (if I had any rate set).

So, if there is NO revenue, i.e. NO sales made at all, then I presume the corp pays NO CRU either? Should a president not be able to claim some income from such corps? After all, they are still using country resources regardless of if they sell their product or not. Just taxing the workers is not right.

Or am I missing something here, is there a less obvious revenue that they pay part of? Is this the fixed property costs? Thats not revenue based, a corp doesnt pay different rents or sewage treatment or waste collection etc depending on its revenue, it's a fixed cost.

Can I get enlightened

CEO corporations usually do continue to pay country resource payments even if they are making minor losses. However, as you said Crafty, if a CEO-owned corporation is failing seriously, it may not pay anything at all in terms of country resource payments. That's why I am suggesting that country resource payments be abolished, and that presidents should instead be given the option of taxing corporations in direct proportion to the number of people whom they employ, irrespective of how profitable that corporation may be. I don't mean taxing a fixed percentage of a corporation's profits or a fixed percentage of worker's wages. I am literally suggesting that presidents should be able to tax each corporation in their country a fixed amount of money for each person which that corporation employes, irrespective the that person's wages or the profits of that corporation. For instance, let's say a corporation employed 200,000 people, and a p

The contributions are an incentive for the president to invite corporations to the country.

countries make a fortune out of these private corporations and many players now understand this and invite them.

taxes can be changed to very low percentages and income for the country will diminish.

corporations have revenue. There could be a month without revenue but is rarely happens.
if they make HUGE losses, the contribution is reduced but this is also rare.

it is essential that they contribute to the country independent of what their owner wants.
in the past they did not and the corporations were not welcome.

we could redesign the entire thing and make a different game but currently, it works just fine and we will fix other functions that need fixing and have a lot of urgent work to do.

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This is the bit I'm not happy with.

With high bad trade strategies corps often have no revenue, not 'rarely'.
Huge losses (2-3T) cause a zero contribution and again this is not rare.

But, yeah, I understand you have greater priorities, this is something I have lived with a long time. There are ways of persuading CEOs to repair or remove their bad corps or you can just buy and repair them.

A corporation with frequent periods of no revenue?
close it immediately and start one that produce a product with a shortage on the market.
such corporations also bankrupt quickly.

I hope that a bad trade strategy is quickly corrected. We have clear advise and if it is followed and the market is not flooded, the corporation always sells. We see this with all beginners and with many C3 countries. they sell everything.

I wish I could

But I'm talking about other CEOs corps, so I cant just do that. If it were my own I would fix it.

Can you please give me the name of such a corporation, country and world and the enterprise name.

I would like to see one.

You could try 'Virgin GG NFPM' in Gallant Gesture on FB, ent: 'Virgin' for one, or 'NOP Gallant OATA' ent: 'Fearless factors' same country, same world.

I can go through them all if you must, but rest assured that this is a small selection of them.