Planetary Economies

Greetings,

One thing that I've noticed in my time here is that many products on many worlds are in chronic shortage. To the point that the GM has to step in the create them to temporarily alleviate these shortfalls, usually causing the markets to go haywire for a few days as they short themselves out again.

From what I've gathered, White Giant and Fearless Blue have these issues the least, but I'm based in Kebir Blue. If the underlying issue is that there's not enough corps on these worlds to meet the product demands, then one way we could address the issue is to build more corps.

Currently, the Back-To-School and Rehabilitation Hospitals don't do anything if there's no CEO corp in the nation. And if there is a CEO corp present, these facilities can return 40% of the CEO workforce to the labor pool, up to a limit of 50% of the total Stay-At-Home/Disabled population. I believe this results in some wicked la

The cause of certain shortages are twofold.

There is a mismatch between population demands goods and services and what they can produce. Try to make your country self-sufficient. You won't succeed.

On top of that there are max prices and manual immediate order systems.
Def. Weapon Maintainence for instance is always in massive shortages, but I try to avoid building them because their supplies are always in shortage too, which are not converted to immediate orders early, ruining profitability. Because of max prices there is no incentive to build them, or to build their supply corporations like Light Artillery. Why build them, if I can build an alternatieve, with the same max price (aka profitability), which is less volatile?
And contracting your own corporations with supplies also is troublesome. First of all it requires massive micromanagement, second some corporations require fractional monthly usages and you can onl

Hello NeutralSC,

I understand what you're saying and I agree, that's why I'm proposing another option that would gradually expand the total labor force of all nations, C3 and player alike.
Hopefully it would reduce the need for Immediate orders for corps and nations alike.

I think it would also help cushion the blow to a nation, player or C3, when a CEO corp closes and the Disabled/Stay-At-Home labor force that corp allowed is longer available.

There would still be a benefit to having CEO corps in your nation, so we're not weakening that part of the game.
There is still an investment required in Health and Education to get that benefit, so no one is getting anything for free.

The exact percentages can be modified until the desired market stability is reached.
Since I'm not adding new mechanics, just tweaking existing ones, hopefully it should make the change easier to implement.
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Increase low water marks and order quantities for corps and countries. No more shortages.

Or, rather than using game mechanics to occasionally side-step flaws in the game engine, we could try to fix the game…

If game mechanics solve the problem, then there is no flaw.

On WG you would have to set the low water mark for some products at 10 years.
Def weapons maintenance orders from corps at best price almost never fill until they convert into immediate on their 10th year. It's the same for shuttles.

neutralsc hit on what I consider the weakest part of this game, playing as an econ empire. By that I don't mean building all the mining corps you can and raising taxes to 70%.

As far as immediate orders go you're hit with the 50% price penalty. When I'm forced to make them I use Q120 to cut the cost. If all my other supplies are at good quality the output effect is minimal.

I believe Mndz made a post about being able to supply from the strategic reserve when corps had shortages.

It is a complicated process and changes can deliver unexpected results.

If supply of some product is increased, it may result in an increased production of products that depend on it and consequently, cascading follow up results.

One of our problems is that when more products are in over supply, we are swamped in complaints about falling prices and diminishing profits.
The number of complaints when the market is short, remains small.

In short, you all, prefer markets to be short.
may be a bit short but certainly short.

We can raise the price ceiling. we once had an error an one type of missile did not have a price ceiling. The price shot up, and up and nobody reacted. No new corporations.

then the price crossed some thresh hold that indicated an error and we found out.
Even natural resources remain in the ground in many countries.

We are making very small updates in corporations that produce

Hi Andy

I can't seem to upload a picture, so I'll have to do this the hard way...
For one of my nations, here's a what the Back-To-School tab tells me:

Number of Employees in CEO Controlled Corporations: 214,325
40% of Workers in in CEO Controlled Corporations: 85,730 *b
Number of Housewives: 2,309,914 *a
50% of the number of Housewives: 1,154,971 *c

Number of Housewives that can return to the Labor Market: 85,730
Number of Housewives currently at work: 85,730

As I understand the game mechanics:
When the CEO corporation closes, the Housewives will no longer be in the nation's labor pool. Over 85,000 workers (because this affects the Disabled as well) will simply cease to exist. Therefore, I must maintain enough unemployed to be available to rep

What you are not looking at is the other workers that are laid off when the CEO corp closes. In your example you say your removing 85K wives and maybe somewhere around 45K disabled. That's 130K removed of 215K employed, so you are adding 85K to your unemployed.

When an enterprise is closing, the corporations are not closed.
The corporations ownership is moved to a default game master enterprise and continue to function. eventually they are bought by a different CEO.

there are only a small number of enterprise corporations closing.

We have chosen for this structure to encourage presidents to invite enterprises to build corporations in their country.

Other than that, the feature does not make much sense.

we could have reduced the numbers of house wives and disabled a bit and stay away from this feature.
Some here want to do that anyway because many players, mainly new players do not understand how to use it.

@JohnV

Yes, I'm adding 85k to the unemployed.

If I want to lure another CEO to open another corp, 85k isn't enough to staff one.
I'll be asking a CEO to open a corp that can't be fully staffed at the start, or I'll be intentionally shorting my other existing corps.

Neither is efficient, so I'm trying to find a way to smooth that out.