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Unsthable
All worlds
21 Jun 2025 02:31Link
There is a current error with Finance Index profit reporting. It is easy to miss and not one that would likely impact many players, but for those invested heavily in mining it very well could be artificially having their score listed as lower than it truly should be based on the money that they're earning.
When corporations reach their upper limit of cash that they can hold onto (something that happens fairly often with state owned mining corps that can't have cash manually withdrawn), they will automatically send some of their cash (apparently in $10b increments) to their owner, in this case the country. That transfer is confirmed in the cash log and absolutely increases the country's cash flow. It does not, however, properly apply in the profit and earnings for the Finance Index. It could be applied as income from dividend, or probably more appropriately profit by state owned corporation, but currently is does not
When corporations reach their upper limit of cash that they can hold onto (something that happens fairly often with state owned mining corps that can't have cash manually withdrawn), they will automatically send some of their cash (apparently in $10b increments) to their owner, in this case the country. That transfer is confirmed in the cash log and absolutely increases the country's cash flow. It does not, however, properly apply in the profit and earnings for the Finance Index. It could be applied as income from dividend, or probably more appropriately profit by state owned corporation, but currently is does not
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Andy
All worlds
27 Jun 2025 11:46Link
I am not sure I understand this.
lets start with the easy part.
The financial index is based on the ratio between income and cost of the country, this year and the previous year.
cash is not taken into account because cash can be moved in and out arbitrarily.
Cash income from corporations IS NOT taken into account.
earnings from investments in corporations (dividend) IS part of the income.
Cash in corporation is the result of their profits and profitable corporations have a high market value.
Cash in corporation is important to allow them to maintain a positive cash flow and allow buying raw materials in large quantities if needed.
some corporations need a huge amount of cash.
lets start with the easy part.
The financial index is based on the ratio between income and cost of the country, this year and the previous year.
cash is not taken into account because cash can be moved in and out arbitrarily.
Cash income from corporations IS NOT taken into account.
earnings from investments in corporations (dividend) IS part of the income.
Cash in corporation is the result of their profits and profitable corporations have a high market value.
Cash in corporation is important to allow them to maintain a positive cash flow and allow buying raw materials in large quantities if needed.
some corporations need a huge amount of cash.
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Unsthable
All worlds
27 Jun 2025 14:37Link
Profit transfer from corporations is taken into account for finance index. If corporations are so profitable over time that they reach their cash upper limit they will automatically pay out 10B to their owner - the country - to get back under the limit. That payment to the country properly appears in the country cash log but is not included in finance index calculations. If the country owns shares in a public corp and that corp does the same 10B payout because it is at its cash limit, that payment IS properly applied to the finance index under dividends category. Cash can't be arbitrarily taken out of state owned corps, so that 10B payment is absolutely from the corp profits, and really should be properly counted as profit transfer in the index.