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Forum Problems Follow product quality not working on enterprise (Golden Rainbow)

Follow product quality not working on enterprise (Golden Rainbow)

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Matt Patton (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Jul 2011 16:00Link
for whatever reason it is not updating to changes in quality
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Crafty (Fearless Blue)

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24 Jul 2011 17:52Link
Matt, you need to post its name or you wont get much help.
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)

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24 Jul 2011 18:32Link
I thought it wasn't working as well too. I actually updated my trade strategies to reflect market conditions and surprisingly my enterprise is making less and my corp market value is dropping. I use very near what the #1 CEO 'Space Fox' was using and with only 600 corps that enterprise is making some good cash. However when I adjusted my sales strategies from a conservative number to an aggressive matching number the opposite of what should be happening is happening. As always when an enterprise is doing fine, it frustrates me to see a simple setting change can throw things into whack! Or maybe it is an across the board issue. Gah! Who knows?
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)

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24 Jul 2011 18:36Link
Well as far as profit dropping my salary graph is all over the place, seems to have jumped 35B in the last 6 months. I added some corps in the last few days but I don't think that explains that jump in just the last 6 months.

My corp salary graph,
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)

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24 Jul 2011 18:49Link
Also, since we've decided to go with a free market and remove the supply fairy or limit it, why are market conditions still not dictating price. The damn price graph for high tech services is still in a range going up 2 or 3 notches then down 2 or 3 notches while demand has steadily risen to almost 8Billion units, *UP* from just over 3.2 units.

Now I've heard John Fire try to explain this away when I raised this issue with FMUs but if demand were IN FACT dictating price, then price should at least remain at the top of the ARTIFICIAL range while demand is Consistently RISING


Same time frame...

Demand

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Crafty (Golden Rainbow)

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Its hit a cap, the fluctuation is actually quite small if you check the numbers, its just an illusion brought on by the scale of the graph.

Beware how you read graphs!
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Matt Patton (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Jul 2011 20:32Link
Production Process Quality 250 Quality Index
Quality of the Product 367.7 Output Product Quality
Production Process Effectivity 250

Sale Strategy Start at 395% of the market price and lower by 5% every month that the product remains unsold.
The offered price is updated when the produced quality changes.
Buying Strategy Start at 100% of the market price and increase by 5% every month that the product is not delivered.

You may also change the trade strategies.

I set it to 20% above for full red
how did you post a graph?
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)

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24 Jul 2011 22:13Link
@Matt, IDK but I think producing anything above 300 Quality is a waste of money unless you are intentionally contracting that product to yourself. Posting the graph is easy, click on one, copy and paste the link onto the box.

Then
<----- over to the right open in a new tab Documentation / Formatting

Familiarize yourself with those commands. There are all types of neat things you can do.

@CC. I know it is capped. If we are embracing the 'free market' concept, there shouldn't be a CAP per se. Demand, or better still RISING demand should blow price through the cap. I do agree temporarily with the cap, I understand why it is there.

What I am saying is that it is clear the price is in a 30 dollar range between 698 and 716. My problem is that this defies logic when if you pull up both graphs you can see when demand skyrockets, price is moving down and in some instances vice-avers.
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Matt Patton (Golden Rainbow)

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24 Jul 2011 22:59Link
I did not know there was a limit
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CorporatePartner (Kebir Blue)

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25 Jul 2011 00:33Link
The 'major problem' with all of these things, is that 'Gamemaster' won't give a record of what you have been paid when selling, and it won't list at what quality it was sold at...so, you can discuss all you want, but until you have proof of those things, frankly, 'Gamemaster' can just steal your 'SC$ Cash' from you...and, sadly, most likely they do.

You disagree? And, you think 'Gamemaster' never 'steals'? Well, was just 'charged' 2.6T SC$ for 6,700 Interceptors at 103 quality, which at 200M or so each, should have only been like 1.3T SC$...you do the 'math'. Sold 1B tons of Sulfur recently, at fixed price, 0% decrease, at 2x times market price, and it only --paid-- 130%; it 'should have paid', at a market price of about 200 SC$, like 400B SC$, but it only paid about 260B SC$. The same things happened many times, with many products, including Oil, Weapon Grade Uranium,
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Crafty

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26 Jul 2011 22:59Link
Yeah, agreed Wendy. More transparency is to be desired as in many walks of life.
I wouldn't think this particular problem would confuse many newbies tho', basically it boils down to more profit for things in the red, its only when you become more advanced and try to manipulate things and max profits that it becomes an issue.
I seem to find that price will follow demand until it hits the ceiling where it bounces around a bit. This bouncing effect happens in all simulations to some scale, though they can be limited by dampening systems, which this program doesnt seem to employ. The price rise also trails the demand rise by some time too (for the benefit of newbs reading, as I'm sure you realise this Wendy).

@CP, read some more old posts on this subject, it has been discussed many times and many answers/reasons put forward by 'vet' econ players and the GM, not sure I understand it all either but someone co
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Psycho_Honey

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27 Jul 2011 00:07Link
Agreed CC. A detailed log of sales and purchase transactions was polled, won by a landslide, and w3c reaction promised the implementation immediately. That was proly at least 2 years ago. Priorities gentleman, priorities.

If you aren't going to add the logs then at least remove the tab from the trade menu and screens and stop teasing us lol.