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Missile Interceptors and Def Anti Aircraft ammo are disappearing (White Giant)

Topics: Problems: Missile Interceptors and Def Anti Aircraft ammo are disappearing (White Giant)

Nicolas Fernandez Ponce (White Giant)

Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 03:08 pm Click here to edit this post

Third time on this week that happened.
First time moved more than 1m ammo of these batteries from the space center to my country, and 8 hours after they are gone!
They are not in my country nor in the space center.

So I did it again, this time with 800k and 8hs after they were gone too. A third time and they keep disappearing.....

I am at war now, I have several dozen of garrisons up but I am fighting a C3 WL3... my defensive weapons are not being used. Its not a re stocking process going on.
Plus, monthly country ammo use is less 50k, and I had 3.1m ammo disappeared in 3 days.

Is there a game doc i forgot to read about this or what? to my eyes it looks like an isolated bug (which ofc i would like to have it solve asap as i need that ammo)


Inanna (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 03:36 pm Click here to edit this post

Nicolas Fernandez Ponce (White Giant)

Sunday, April 1, 2012 - 01:06 am Click here to edit this post
Any ideas?

I messaged them but his response was really vague and without arguments.


Sunday, April 1, 2012 - 04:45 am Click here to edit this post
they have gone to your garrisons :)


Sunday, April 1, 2012 - 06:30 am Click here to edit this post
Damn garrisons. I hate them.

Crafty (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, April 1, 2012 - 05:39 pm Click here to edit this post
You dont need garrisons in C3s Wendy :p

Nicolas Fernandez Ponce (White Giant)

Sunday, April 1, 2012 - 06:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes, the gamemaster gave me the same answer with almost the same words..... and still it lacks of arguments and logical.

I'm posting below my reply to the GM.


It doesn't makes sense to me. If that's the case, then why all the following weapons ammo quantity I will mention have not been reduced in days and weeks. At least not down to 0 like Missile Interceptors and they show a reduction of 5% at mosts (instead of 100%).... I have 300 def ints and helis wings. Almost the same amount of DMB and DAAMB than MIB....
Helicopter Missiles

Navy Missile Interceptors

Navy Missiles

Destroyer Torpedos

Nuclear Defense Missiles

Anti Aircraft Missiles

Helicopter Missiles

Interceptor Missiles

Heavy Artillery Shells

Heavy Tank Ammo

Navy Fighter Missiles

Seals Ammo

Handheld Missiles

Conventional Missiles

Cruise Missiles Ship Based

Garrisons doesn't show logs, so I checked again my supplies units (randomly), and found out that many of them were loaded with "xxxx" to replenish a garrison. "xxxx" means... that the logs doesn't specify which goods were loaded.
In most cases the goods loaded were military supplies and/or gasoline.

I found only a few that loaded DAAMB/DMB ammo...... I counted my garrisons and atm I have only 305 that use DAAMB/DMB/MIB... and based on supplies logs, the highest (for instance) DAAMB ammo loaded was 54.
54 per 305 = 16.470 ammunition.

3.200.000 millions MIB ammo divided by 16.470 = 194.29 game months which means 64.76 real life days at 3 game months per 1 real life.

On my case, I had 3.2m MIB ammo gone in 24hs !!!

I have read all your game documentation (again), and I couldn't find a place where it states that garrisons units use "ammunition monthly".
This statement, however, it does exists for Countries.... and those weapons that are used monthly are visible on "Common Market Contracts for your Country" page AND on "World Market Trading -----> Products in stock: buy and sell".

But again, nothing that states that garrisons uses weapons/ammo monthly nor the amount that they use.

If you are a hundred percent garrisons do must use weapons/ammo monthly, then you have a huge GAP in your documentation and communication to the users :D. There is no place where it's announce.
Plus, it needs a better logical URGENTLY.... Why? 3.2m MIB ammo means around 16T game cash.

Now, talking about replenishments only. You need 16T game cash for 24hs, so garrisons can be replenished each month in one day and FOR ONE WEAPON AMMO ONLY.
If it works the same for the other common used (DAAMB + DMB) then we are talking about 48T per real life day which also means 570 gold coins per real life day to replenish 3 WEAPONS in 305 Garrisons.

- There is no documentation that states this works as you mention.
- The game does not give clear information regarding the amount of monthly ammunition that garrissons use.
- Equation of why 3.2m MIB ammo are missing is not clear.

Please, can you review this?

Thanks in advance,

Keto (Golden Rainbow)

Sunday, April 1, 2012 - 09:14 pm Click here to edit this post
try dismantling garrisons and see if ammo reappears

Inanna (Fearless Blue)

Monday, April 2, 2012 - 05:43 am Click here to edit this post
After reading his last post. There is way too much logic and that is way too much to spend on running a war slave.

Lols @CC

Nicolas Fernandez Ponce (White Giant)

Friday, April 6, 2012 - 06:42 pm Click here to edit this post
It would be nice if the GM cares to analyze this for one.....

Nicolas Fernandez Ponce (Little Upsilon)

Monday, April 9, 2012 - 02:51 am Click here to edit this post
Still waiting for an answer...


Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 05:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Ammunition is used as part of the maintenance of the army.
(unchanged at least in the past 5 years).

each weapon is using some ammunition each game year. (divided to 12 and subtracted from the stock of the country each game month.)

the cost of the ammunition is in fact the largest part of the cost of the army.

Units do so too and they are not always supplied. especially when ammunition is not available.

then, when ammunition becomes available, it is transported to the units including garrisons.
The numbers can be large if units were not supplied for a long time.

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