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Different Employment Problems

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hodgpodg5490

All worlds
31 Dec 2019 13:46Link
Hello,

I am having huge swings in available workers. I had over 200,000 unemployed nurses one month then the next 0. I did not build any new hospitals. This happened in several other categories as well.

A few days ago I went from a couple hundred thousand unemployed low level workers to a couple million in one game month.

Is there something I can do to help prevent these crazy swings or is this a glitch?
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fady

All worlds
31 Dec 2019 14:26Link
the same thing with me
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hodgpodg5490

All worlds
31 Dec 2019 15:43Link
I also forgot country name is The Kingdom of Hodg on white giant
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hodgpodg5490

All worlds
31 Dec 2019 21:20Link
Just had another 4,000,000 spike in low level workers.
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Andy

All worlds
05 Jan 2020 14:08Link
Wow.

these are very large movements.
I will check why.

In general, when LLWs are short, there will be movements.
the shortage must be serious and movements should be "reasonable".

I will check.
there are more people complaining about it.
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Lord Mndz

All worlds
05 Jan 2020 16:01Link
Andy,

as per below picture, this problems causes schools, hospitals to be closed and also reduces employment in the countries.

Game level 4 has no effect to stop this procedure.

bigbug
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Sam

All worlds
06 Jan 2020 13:25Link
The weirdest part is it didn't start happening until one of the most recent updates.
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Daniel Iceling

All worlds
07 Jan 2020 07:36Link
Sam,

Agreed, the system never used to demote people on this scale. I've found it doesn't trigger, if I make sure Low Level worker unemployment doesn't drop below 1,000,000, even for a single month, and total unemployment doesn't drop below 3,000,000.

Something has clearly changed to make this system far more sensitive, and far more powerful, than it needs to be. A single month trigger of the demotions, hospitals close, and High Tech Engineers plunge into shortage.

Signed President of DanNation on LU
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Andy

All worlds
12 Jan 2020 16:53Link
This is very unusual and must have been preceded by a sudden shortage in LLWs.
It is also probably a very high population country.

Even then, the numbers are large.

I will check our logs to find out.
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Andy

All worlds
12 Jan 2020 17:02Link
We have recently improved the management of c3 countries, making sure they have the workers they need when starting a new corporation and improved the checks on the population limits.

This most probably switched on a function that tries to prevent shortages of LLWs.
This used to be a big problem in the past.

These shifts seem to turn into a tsunami in isolated cases.

I now already checked and reduced max shifts to prevent it.
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johnV

All worlds
14 Jan 2020 12:08Link
Andy,
This is still happening on WG, the graphs are similar to those above.

Country Meliora on WG went from 100K to 1.4M LLW workers in two months wiping out all the teachers and hospital staff.
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Andy

All worlds
22 Jan 2020 10:02Link
JohnV,

Did you see more of this recently?

We see the C3 countries in much better balance now, many other countries too.
I do not see many interventions.
The amplitude of these interventions is diminished.

Also, the "support" functions for players under game level 4 have been recheck and even there, number have been reduced (coming update).

However,
There are "interventions" that are remaining.

If a country has huge numbers of unemployed in one group, and shortages in others, you should expect people to move around.

This happens in the real world and should happen here too.
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johnV

All worlds
22 Jan 2020 12:30Link
Andy, it happened about 3 days ago, since then I've been moving people around keeping unemployed LLW above 300K
I did have a shortage of some workers. What is troubling is the double tap. Unemployed LLW's went from 60K to 660K one month which should have been sufficient but then the following month increased by another million. That's when I lost 600 schools and 40 hospitals.
My unemployment rate is under 4% with 46 million workers. If the game would have reduced my employment by a couple of percent that would have freed up a million workers and not destroyed schools and hospitals.
I seem to remember someone posting that if you have gov salaries higher than corps that will happen. I'll give it a try.
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Jiggle Billy

All worlds
24 Jan 2020 16:08Link
Andy, you may have got it, my main nation got very low on LLW for a couple months and no automated system triggered. It was excellent, I was easily able to manage it with manual transfers, and very happy auto transfers of far excessive volumes didn't trigger.
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Jiggle Billy

All worlds
26 Jan 2020 15:42Link
I'm wrong, just happened in the third kingdom of hodg again.