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Social Security

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MNSeize

All worlds
21 Jul 2016 22:03Link
I noticed a major part of my costs is social security. I know that having more workers and less unemployed people brings down the costs but should I also bring the payment down and what'd be the disadvantage to it?

I have the social security target at 80%, but I was wondering what would happen if I brought it down to 10%. Would that hurt my economy? I would be saving social security costs by 70% which is 2.5 billion a month.
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Zen

All worlds
22 Jul 2016 05:38Link
Remember social security costs are based off your average low-level worker wage as well. So decreasing wages overall also decreases your social security payments. However there are more disadvantages to low wages/social security payments from higher social security and wages. The main disadvantage is your welfare index. Lowering your social security below 80 will decrease welfare, which decreases production and population spending. However I keep mine at 72 and have a welfare index of 133 in one of my countries. Also if you have a high finance index with very low social security it can cause civil unrest. Having lower wages also decreases production in your country with a decrease in income tax and education/healthcare contributions. So having very low wages isn't always the best idea unless your country isn't in good shape. However it can be just as bad even worse if you push your index and salaries too high. I see people having double the needed s
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MNSeize

All worlds
22 Jul 2016 06:44Link
I currently have a salary index of 300.0 in my corporations and for government workers with 80% social security. Is that good?
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John West

All worlds
22 Jul 2016 09:26Link
First off, before I am criticized for giving bad information, I do not claim to have your answer but I will give you my perspective: If you want to skip the math, I hear 85 is a good number for social security.

Although, I set mine at 50, simply because I think it's ridiculous that somebody (simulated or not), doing nothing at all, get 85pc what a ['low level'] worker gets.

I am not at all saying 85 is the optimal number. I've noticed, from my personal experience anyway, that 85 is a commonly recommended number. I have been told to set mine specifically to 85 by a couple of people, as well I've seen it in a guide somewhere in the past.

but like I said, I set mine to 50, just because I am leader of the simmies and I do what I want.

I have wondered what if I set to 0? heheheh

Zen made a good point that he keeps his welfare index around 130, because I have heard that it is good t
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Zen

All worlds
22 Jul 2016 21:52Link
That's because your welfare index can't go much over 130. So it doesn't make economical sense to have higher then 130 indexes. The following is directly from the game documentation for welfare.

"The happier the population in the country is, and the better the economy is doing, the higher is the welfare index.
The index can fluctuate between 90 (and in some cases even lower), and 140.

The Welfare Index is taking the lowest value of several other indexes:

The Health Index
The Education Index
The Transportation Index
The Supply Index + 41
The Employment Index + 37
The Social Security Index + 38
The Government Salary Index + 27
The Consumption Index contributes between 0 and 8 point to the welfare index. It needs to be at a level of about 300, to reach the max effect.
The game level will increase the welfare index by 1 point, for each game level higher than 1
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Andy

All worlds
25 Jul 2016 10:49Link
I love it.
zen, you are reading the documentation, thank you.

The advice is correct and you need to reduce unemployment.
keep your welfare index high and your unemployment low.
It will increase the corporate profits and reduce your social security cost.
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Gintoki Sakata

All worlds
12 Jul 2018 13:04Link
Just asking... What would happen if I put my social security at 101%. Would I get a social security rating of 139%?
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John Galt

All worlds
12 Jul 2018 16:35Link
No the rating isn't +38 of your social security setting. The +38 refers to its contribution to the welfare index. So if your social security index is 102, your contribution for welfare index should in theory be 140. I'm not sure how accurate the docs are though as it could be out of date.

My social security is set to 80% and it gives me an index of 102. Then you add 38 to the index to get its impact on welfare index. Hope that is a bit more clear.

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