New from the old (Fearless Blue)

It is my pleasure to announce the formation of a new federation from old federations.

First off this is not a merger, but rather a first. A join federation of 2 federations that are SC wide. This is more than just an alliance. The members of the 2 primary federations will be able to find a home on FB if they come, ready and willing to accept them.

The 2 federations are SFO and AF. This is not to be construded as a merge or joining of the federations on any other world other than FB. Any alliances between the two or agreements on other worlds is not effected nor to be construded as such. Nor does the leadership for this federation have any authority over the federations on other worlds beyond what the individual players may already have.

Welcome State of the Fraternal Order Allied Forces or SFOAF for short.

The primary officers of this federation are Madhatter, Adam, Ace, Lasher. Dominator is heading up the aca

I bless this union on Fearless Blue and will always be available for assistance from all of it's members and officers.

Hail SFOAF!!

Treasurer
President - The States of the Fraternal Order

Dave Pat we appreciate all that you have done for so many and so much. It has Truly been an Honor to have worked with you. If you ever need our assistance it is but a message away. We will work hard to continue on the long lineage and honor those who have come before us. Aswell to honor the name of Allied Forces here on FB.

Treasure, i appreciate the kind words and look forward to working more with you in the future. I sent you a request on your messenger.

We set forth on a new begining holding onto the highest of ideals. Knowing that the path before us is long, dark and twisted. We must work together to light the fire's that will guide us. The higher horizons are far but not out of reach. I dont think Dave Pat could have put forth a better grouping of 5 ideal's. These we will take to heart and inspire to those who join. Reaching out to others to build a community of friends and compadres. Because when it comes down to it. Its th

Supergiant feds are not good for the game imo, especially on the war world. Left unchecked, such things can get a stranglehold on a world and make it univiting for the casual player to start up a country and actually enjoy having a little war - fear of action from "supergiantfed" paralysing their gameplay. Particularly concerning is an alliance of two feds "on one world only" to attempt to create such an entity. Thus I urge SFO and AF to de-merge (sorry, de-join).

As noted in another thread, I am not pleased about SFOAF eastward expansion plans and measures have been taken to keep my doorstep clean. If this fed elects not to de-join, then my line in the sand is drawn on the eastern coast of pimpadelikville (i.e. the easternmost point of Paova Major). I am not presumptuous enough to say any countries east of there "will die", but it is fair to say that the welcoming committee wont be carrying palm leaves.

(After reading Danneh's post, Quastar pulled out the ancient trunk under his bed and start searching for his light saber that was given to him by his master)...

If this wasnt so funny I might just take it seriously. Feds large, small, medium, important unimportant have existed in this game for years. Few feds have been formed purely for war, profit, gain at the expense of others and frankly none hve succeeded. As I posted to introduce this fedit is nothing more than the continuation of a long line and history of a federation and an experiment in a joint fed each with their own traditions and standards, which seem to be mutual. Furthermore it is here to show newer players and older ones as well the true value of federation.

Lastly I have seen a lot of players come and go say I control this region or that region and encroachment will be reason for war. Frankly this is presumtuous to the extreme if we wish to speak about presumtuousness. FB is a free world any player or group of players may place their holdings where ever they desire in spite of the ramblings of a single or group of players. Draw all

Drawing lines on FB. What a pompous ass.

Danneh's on crack.

\pees a circle around yorba.

Mine, Mine I say!

Look I drew a circle!

heheh, thanks Sam and Barney for reminding me not to take this all too seriously.

Treasurer, come on mate, play along a bit, descending to name-calling isn't very becoming of you and I'm sure you can do better.

I note that no SFOAF peeps have denied their plan for world domination yet - maybe the silence speaks volumes!

There are 2 competing strains present on FB, just as there has been in RL. They are civilization and barbarian - builders and destroyers.

In the game there are those who enjoy building up their empires economically and militarily, and those who enjoy the thrill of the fight. We have mutually exclusive goals. A war for my empire has different consequences than for others. For me months of effort may be lost in an evening. For the barbarians raping my country, it is there joy.

As neutral observers looking on, the question becomes what do you want FB to look like. A world of player raiding or one were war mongering noobs are dealt with.

Adam

Quote from the documentation :

"Fearless blue is the war world and has different settings that encourage the war game."

I disagree fundamentally with the black and white picture of builder vs destroyer, but for the sake of argument, why do 'builders' set up on FB?

To make people like you ask questions

Turner,

You build so that you can fight longer. I am trying to build an empire that is a net producer of GC. Once that happens, clowns like the ones messing with me now will get toasted. Its a gamble to build the economy first. We will see how it works out.

Adam

Ahh, high risk strategy, I see! Thanks for the answer.

well these CLOWNS as you refer to us have fought real players before,,hows your c3 thing working out for you now??? Thanks for your,build so you can fight longer theory,quite entertaining as you find my spelling,lol.

Look we never said we where trying to take over the world. The fact is since the start of us putting it together we have done nothing to cause conflicts. We have contacted other feds. Looking for better relations. All we try to do is help out newer players looking to learn. It is you who has been threatening us not the other way around. I have always tryed to keep good relations with everyone. The fact that you have bad blood with the feds of the past. You havent even given us a chance to work out better relations.

I'd have to back Madhatter on this one. Ever since I came to FB at the behest of Dan, all I have seen is communications for and meant to help the newer players learn the game and how to act. I am in the controlling headquarters federation of SFOAF and I have seen nothing that would indicate the direct leaders of this federation are interested in world domination, or even regional domination. I have seen no discussion about who to attack, only who to talk to in order to bolster relations with other feds and let the better side of SFOAF to shine.

Bottom line is, I believe it is your fed that has the alterior motives. You were the ones that brought up world domination, nowhere have we done so.

Take the blue pill. It helps in time of paranoid delusions.

Slim.

Lol...

I'm not sure how many conversations are going on here. I'm the person feeling threatened by SFOAF world domination. It is due to this part of madhatter's post :

"As of now we have 4 Branch Officers. One for each of the 4 western continents. Recruiting will begin in full force and some of you may even be contacted. When demand rises we will expand into the east."

There is one other player in any of the federations my countries are in, and he has not made any recent forum postings (as far as I've seen) or declared war on any active countries.

Andy is not part of any of my feds. I have heard it said that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", so I guess our objectives are in some kind of alignment at the moment. I don't have any beef with Adam other than generic SFOAF membership.

Hopefully that's cleared that up. Anyway, I have another question for SFOAF peeps .. why di

The SFOAF alliance is open to all worlds, and is on WG atm also, just not in name. We have a common defense treaty with SFO that applies to all worlds. This was Davepat's idea to mesh them name wise on FB. Besides, we have every right to be anywhere we wish to be, as do you. Why all the hostility?

That's a direct contradiction of DavePat's post Chris, although I recognise that things can change since posts were, erm, posted.

What better reason for hostility than to resist a fed expanding to all regions of all worlds?

There is no intention to do that. Seems to me your paranoia builds with each post. We have cooperative intentions, all of your intentions seem to be hostile. And I know you're ex- PPW, and I can also imagine you're not too fond with the way your beloved JG was treated. Maybe that is your reason for your hostility? Honestly, if it is, you are either sadly misinformed, or did not read the forums too well. JG was and is a scumbag. Plenty of people that want to exterminate him upon his arrival. He has said many things and done even more to warrant this, as the majority of this community does not wish his presence here.

And by the way. You completely contradict yourself with the argument of world domination when you're a former member of a fed that did just that. Or must I remind you of the five world "Wrath of God" tour? Sadly, I think you're a very intelligent person, but your habit of contradicting yourself is bothersome whe

Well, you're way off target there I'm afraid. I don't know anything about PPW, JG or a 'Wrath of God' tour.

There is no contradiction. Frankly I am getting pretty damn tired of words being put into people's mouths so you can justify fighting a war. The people I have seen or should I say person saying domination is the one saying this is the line and anyone beyond it has to have my blessing. Furthermore the supposed purpose to you waging war is to show your superiority to others and to dominate. SFOAF is not a war waging federation. And it is no paper tiger.

Next, you people need to really start taking a look as to who is on FB. It is billed as the war world but somewhere along the line you missed something major about the world and ya had better figure it out. Get a reality check you are attracting the attention of too many other people with this crap my message logs are full of it.

Whatever you call yourselves/yourself you are not looking very good in this matter.