The Anti Communist League (recruiting) (Little Upsilon)

I guess the other way to do it is by infiltrating an already existing government...either way, it's highly risky and illegal.

yes, which is a flaw. supposedly it's going to result in a democracy but history shows that it ends up being just another form of tyranny. in the case of the soviets, china, north korea, etc. they never get finished purging those who they don't think agree with them. and you end up with a dictatorship.

The system has a safeguard against dictatorship though. One person cannot manage all the millions of factories controlled by the state. There is a governmental pyramid that I saw once, and it shows that there are three layers of a government. They are, from top to bottom:
1. Cultural Layer - least important in a government, the cultural layer is defined by the People's overall philosophy or values.
2. Political Layer - Politics is where most of the action happens. It all depends on who gets elected, or who is in power (in the case of a dictatorship).
3. Economic Layer - This is the most important layer. Nobody can do anything unless the economy works in their favor. Politics can *sometimes* affect what is happening on the economic layer, but usually, it is the other way around. Politicians are slaves to the economy, as we all are.

All of my system's safeguards against capitalism and against dictatorship, exist on the Economic Layer, unlike communism, whose safeguards are merely political or cultural. Capitalism has very few safeguards to begin with. The few safeguards it does have are all cultural.

As for your bible story, yes I've read it many times when I was forced to go to sunday school. I don't believe in God, I am an atheist. Anyway, my system is a lot more idiot-proof than that.

My system's only theoretical flaw is making the transition from one system to mine. It's possible, but very difficult.

so how do you think that Stalin and Mao were able to stay in power? Both were tyrants and they stayed in power until they died. in the process millions were murdered, few of which were capitalists.

i'm still waiting to hear why millions of people keep trying to get into the US and western European nations that have as their economic system some form of democratic capitalism? could it be freedom?

The freedom of capitalism is an illusion. Indeed, it draws many, but the truth is that capitalism is a lot less forgiving to the poor. In capitalism, everything is based off of exploitation. Everybody just wants your money and your servitude. People take advantage of your situation all the time. The role of currency is solely to keep the rich in power, and to make sure that the workers remain poor. Capitalism imprisons you in a jail cell, and surrounds you with a false sense of freedom and opportunity. You think you could someday be rich, so you immigrate to a capitalist country, and everyone just exploits your situation and forces you to work. If you don't work, they foreclose your home, repossess your belongings, and garnish your wage. On top of all that, you still remain poor as long as you live. Do you really call that "freedom"? Please don't tell me that you are really that naive.

you still haven't answered--why are people beating the door down to come to the US and Western Europe?

Because those people are fooled by capitalism's illusion of freedom.

Freedom is an illusion. U try to voice your opinions here In the US. U try to use your freedom of speech to warn people about the corruption at the federal reserve. The corruption in the govt. The fact the the president is a puppet. U say these things to wake people up but their ignorance is the only thing holding the people of this country back. U get called a nut,crazy,unAmerican. U now are faced with a choice. Become a slave or stand up to them. The choice is yours but there will be a day when its to late. When they come out of the shadows and reveal themselves to the world on that day the message they send to u will be clear. HERE WE ARE FIGHT US NOW. But by then you won't have any cash,no guns,and your hunger will say give in. The time is now to do something but you people are to busy listening to the govt tell u what to do but u forget we are ones who should be telling the govt what to do. Turn to politics before politics turn on you. The choice has always been yours lay down and let these people take your rights and freedoms away or stand up and do something about it. Remember fear is the path to the darkside. Light up the darkness. the truth will set u free.

i think you need to rethink your system.

+1 SirSmokesAlot

My system is better than capitalism.

...When did we stop recruiting for a fed?

roflcopter. When I entered the conversation?

+ Demon Eater

Mmmm whats the hoot about folks

SP, your system would have the same problem that any other system has while being established. Take the bolshevik revolution for an example. It was the revolution that toppled the Czars. It was millions of the working class striving from the brutal oppression of their leaders.
Now those millions where able to be steered by a select few, such as Lenin, that saw this revolution as their opportunity to take control. They used the masses, the democratic movement, to push them selves into power. Once they voted them selves into power, they casted off the people that they rode to power on. And this is when the purges began.
They very people that began the revolution, soon became its victims.
This is one example of many that demonstrates the eventual fate of your system. Unless you expect to purge the unbelievers your self your system will not get off the ground. Plus, unless you have a camera in every home, a snitch around every corner and a military police force to enforce the rules, you cannot stop humans from individual barter. They will continue to put a price on every thing, and strive for more than what they have. That's human nature.

Kag-- he won't listen to you. he wants to be the dictator in democratic clothing. according to him it has no flaws since it wouldn't have a medium of exchange.

that's the fault in many people of aspiration. Arrogance. Arrogance to think they are better than the countless others that came before and failed. Arrogance to think that people are mere pawns, to perform the will of those of power. Arrogance to think that they possess no flaws, and it is god that is imperfect to call him an imperfect being.

very thoughtful comments.

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. - Mao Zedong

A good system places limits on political power. A good system makes it so no majority, no minority, no community, no dictator, no democratically-elected leader, and no individual can exercise political power or its brute counterpart, a gun, on any citizen except in those cases where an individual is attempting to exercise such power on another.
A good system's goal is to protect a man's life, his liberty, and the product of both, his property.

That some men are more successful, intelligent, wealthy, lucky, healthy, or privileged than others is an issue that cannot be solved by the system without resorting to the use of political power against life, liberty, or property. To attempt to do so contradicts the goal of a good system. As such, a good system does not attempt to resolve these inequalities.

That some men attempt to deprive others of life, liberty, and property through the use of force or fraud is contradictory to the goal of a good system. As such, a good system does not tolerate such actions.

That some men attempt to exercise political power in contradiction to the goal of a good system is intolerable. As such, a good system's laws cannot allow for any justification of the deprivation of life, liberty, or property other than as it is required to enforce such laws.

That some men convince other men to throw away their freedoms through democratic elections or violent revolutions is unfortunate. No system can prevent this. A good system is inefficient, weak, slow, and resistant to change in case such foolishness is only temporary.

Capitalism, specifically Laissez-Faire Capitalism, is such a system.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be. - Yogi Berra