WAR LEVELS... REBOOTED

DAmn those "ideas", lol! Josias, good stuff.

No it isn't 'our game' You pay for a service. You provide nothing.

WB your a fucking retard moron. You thought you were the resident genius. And then you woke up.

I don't care if they stay or go. I could raid a million countries if war levels were peeled back.

I can also throw my empires into level 0 like a lot of other players and eat like that too.

I don't care if they put it back or keep it as it is. I'll still be me and you'll still be crying.

At this point Whiteboy you shouldn't even suggest anything ever again in the game. We know you will, but only you and the little group of people that actually cater to your selfish attitude will care or even take you seriously.

W3c has taken the ideas you presented in a thread just like this one and all they have got in return is a bunch of grief. Why should they listen to any more of your 'cure-all' bullshit.

I'd like to stoop to your level Wendy but it's already been displayed over and over that it isn't worth it. I'm one level of player and you're another, don't want to disrespect myself by getting into a bitching fight with you.

You were and have continued to be one of the main opponents of any idea which didn't serve your self interest, pretending differently is just embarrassing for you.

If you want the game rolled back, roll it all the way back. No war protection, no blackouts, let the players police the game. It was effective in the past to an extent, it could be effective again...if you aren't willing to go that far then stop pretending that any change to the game means the player suggesting the change should just leave. Also, suggesting this entire thing was my idea is ridiculous and everyone knows it, I had one proposal that got manipulated to be many different. I'll take responsibility for su

Calling me a bitch every chance you got is stooping to a level? Oh and the worse I did was call you a 'Uni-Boy' Stoop to my level? What the fuck eva.

You are an embarrassment period.

How your dense ass doesn't get that your 'cure all' was a disaster, yet you stand here again with yet more solutions is an embarrassment.

The truth is I pointed out the obvious before during and after the conversation that you led that ended up with us having war levels. You have a proven track record for stupidity and it has been pointed out to you in every instance. But regardless of that fact you have still convinced yourself that you have 'the answer' again? Denial much.

Again... I'll pass and so should everyone else.

Your half recognition that you were wrong and to blame for this awful update does not excuse the fact that you were wrong. You will continue to be wrong into the foreseeable future.

aww, wendy.

in regards to joining the "dark side," infact, i'm glad you brought that up

on the "good side," no one wants to war. no one really knows how.

i do find the irony interesting. in regards to my conversion from econ to war. light side to dark side, lol. i originally was rather irritated in the way that sam and def behaved. it was well know at the time that the SC chat was a dangerous place for newbs. they would go their, and a vet, would pick on them until they would react poorly, and of course the vet would punish them.

at the time i believed that sam and def were the main people doing this. although i must interject here to say, that i can only remember def riding diz or jg. when i sat down and had conversations with def, i found that he was a rather reasonable person, and when he explained to me that he never flamed any one that didn't start it or deserve it, (like J

lol. I've had my share of losses of good countries. I have had my share of proper wars and c3 wars. It is a tactic that you employed but I am a coward? You just recently started fighting with real countries. Before this era, your last fight was against EO with c3s and a friend who also joined you in this tactic. You also did so presently in the company of the games best and most capable fighters and against an almost defeated enemy. So you are highly misrepresenting the fact that you don't always fight c3 wars.

No one is criticizing you for warring. No one is criticizing you for joining LDI. They aren't anywhere close to how they used to be. The dark side being the joining of capable players in a lopsided battle against asset rich countries only.

When WGC came under attack by you and the mob, they offered to face you in a challenge in a 5 v 5 even, yet you all declined. That isn't cowardly? You are dipshitti

Excuse me. Clearly I overreacted. He didn't really mean to say coward.

aww well wendy, i don't really want to keep derailing this thread that is other wise pretty cool. so enjoy having the last word!!!

That is what they all say.

Wendy, lose the hate.

Lose the hate? Lose the douche....

Was that hateful?

Don't mistake facts for hate Jojo.

I know these are your gfs of late but comon, give it a rest. They can manage on their own. Or not.

I don't think it is hate, Jo Jo. Frustration may be a more apt term for what is being expressed - Frustration over changes that just make the game not worth playing if you like the war game. Honestly, I don't know what was wrong with the way it was and has been played. I don't recall peeps whining about it before. I agree with what someone posted earlier. If you don't want to war or not prepared to defend, buy WP for your countries, or join a federation to support and protect you. It is the way the game has been played for years. I have bought boocoos of WP over the years. Also, I thought there were options in place if someone didn't want to play the war game that would safeguard them against wars. So, why the need for war levels???

Kiss - The war game wasn't working before, that's the point. It had basically been dead since the 3M v NV war broke into all out c3 warfare and everyone discovered that they didn't have to risk their own assets to take from others. W3C decided in response to the Mob v WGC war (mostly) that there needed to be a separation of players because a few of the most skilled war players were able to fairly quickly/easily dismantle the largest and oldest fed in the game. This was a reasonable thought as it had become clear that war wasn't even close to balanced and strength in numbers mattered little, so they attached a limiting system into my idea of c3 levels which was designed to make war more popular and easier to understand, not to limit war between players. I've already said that I went along with that idea reluctantly because I, unlike some others am willing to admit that the way I played the game/decisions I made had a negative

I TRIED TO STAY OUT OF THIS BUT YOU SAY THE WAR GAME WAS ALREADY DEAD BEFORE THE CHANGES.IT WAS A LOT MORE ACTIVE THAN IT IS NOW.AND IF THE WAR GAME IS WHAT YOU REALLY LOVE WHY ARE OTHER PEOPLES ASSETS SO IMPORTANT.JUST PAY TO PLAY AND ENJOY A GOOD C3 FIGHT.
BIGG E

Thanks, Whiteboy, and good to see you. Hope you are doing well.

Despite the fact I didn't war as actively as my other mates, I was kept abreast of the fighting and joined in on several occasions. I just knew that we have always fought with c3s, myself included. While it is frustrating to a certain extent because it was a tit for tat fight and long and drawn out, we did have fun doing it. We did catch countries out of WP. Both sides in the war did, so assets were gained. I am with Bigge, it seems like it is REALLY broken now. :S

While I and others can appreciate all attempts to make the game better, I think the concept of war levels are way too restrictive. It pretty much stops any player's ability to fight another because they may not be at the same level. And if I wanna lodge a "shoe" lol at you, Whiteboy, by golly I don't want a war level prohibiting me from doing so! (winks)

In my opinion, i

A total of 28 players on this thread.

Would be nice to hear from Tommi.

maybe he's to busy

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Tom Willard is a dedicated President of Tommi. The president accepted the membership for a period of 182 months.

sounds to me like he's been a bit busy

Is the war game 'more dead' now than it was before, sure. Is 'more dead' really saying much? I don't think so. There were maybe 10 active participants in the war game before the changes and 9 out of the 10 were friends with each other. My thought was if we broke the group up it may result in those players dispersing, which kind of happened at first but ultimately...you'll see they're all pretty much still together...because they're the only people that are still willing to fight wars and they're hopeful that it can be revived. Either way, the war game was/is/will be dead until the problems I've pointed out can be dealt with.

People (in general, not 10) aren't going to participate in the war game until the informational advantage is minimized and they aren't going to participate when they have to risk their assets while others can torment them without risking any of their own. The peak

The wisdom and Foresight of this kid....amazing.

If we used the example of his last tidbits of wisdom in action... surely Nostradamus was more accurate with his vague predictions.

What happened to this solution of yours

fixing the war game?
encouraging federation growth?
or restoring simcountry to its' former glory?

None of them happened. Was this just a mere coincidence?

C3 warfare is all about assets? Lets agree to agree on that. But isn't all war about assets? Surely gang banging of lesser players, and the consolidation of a majority of well versed war players both were about assets too?

Tell me child, how was grouping the better versed war players under one banner supposed to encourage competition in the war game? Really? You were part of this grouping.

Is fixing the war game what you really wanted? Doubtful. More likely, you wanted to form a coalition to fee

sigh

At least we think alike.

Well as i was saying before.. war levels make it hard.. hard to fight.. and hard to teach. While i was in my fed we learned to fight by fighting our fed mates. Its imposible to do that now, unless the new guy in the fed levels up to you and at the same time makes him/her the same level you are which makes them vulnerable to attack. I was in the last big thread on this and was shot down by the GM saying i was off topic.. in that thread all i was saying was that if it could be posible to be able to auto dec against a fellow fed mates attack instead off sitting there seeing a fed mate get destroyed while defenseless cause you didn't dec in time. I myself thought it was on topic. Sorry GM.

A good suggestion is this.. and was thinking this about this for a long time and added my ideas to others on this thread. Make it so lvl 3 and below are "econ" lvls they are also

Well.. its only a suggestion. Hopefully we can come to some sort of consensus on this to pique the gm's interest and hopefully have the GM respond...

What is the status on this?