Pheww ...Drew , I have to tell you I am not sure i could follow everything in youre statement . Not because of its quality but probally of my inability to understand it fully .
But i will try .
I dont agree that the valae of housing has gone down by 50% , there has been a sligth decrease but not a lot , people can not afford to sell a house for less than they bougth it for , therefore the price of houses can not go down by much , you can sell new builds cheaper and drive the price down , but Capitalism being wat it is the people building the houses will always get the max profit out of them that they can . Mind the market for new builds has decreased a lot .
I agree that Capitalism does create a class war . I also believe there is a possibilty that Capitalism will destroy itself , in that the people at the top will never want to stop taking more from the working class . Once they have it all , the working class , the majority , wi
One more thing i would like to state .
Capitalism does seem to work , in that the Quality of life does seem to be better in Capitalist countries . I HATE that fact .
Or is it just that the countries with a better quality of life have adopted Capitalism
capitalism...simply put in my own terms. Freedom of commerce.
Capitalism is a monetary system and thats it. But when adopted as a way of life its becomes a legitimate way to rob someone under the guise of profit and intelligence.
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Wilhelm II Hohensteinburg
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You are on your own, earn money however you can, competition... Free Market ja, all of that.
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Dimitri Mendelev
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lol drew cant just let me revel in my apparent genius
i can also not understand your posts o well
and manto arms your logic is stupid
W00t W00t crony capitalism and long live the elite enviornment destroyers!!!!!!!
Quote "an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth. "
Yes , I agree . But why does this work better than any cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth .
Because the private or should we say wealthy can than pay us all less wages while they make bigger profits and they do not have to answer to the public for there greed or lack of concern for the quality of life off its employees . But people have a breaking point when they are constantly being riped off . The Goverments are happy because they have the power to brush shoulders with the wealthy and play there silly power games . Lets be honest if there was no regulation from democratically ellected goverments and the private corpoations were giving free riegn
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Dimitri Mendelev
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"we learn from history that we learn nothing from history"
look at any communist country in the world it hasn't worked it ends up being an autocratic authoratative genocidal plutocracy....quite the oppiosite of actual communism.....people are incapable of interconnecting so thoroughly as to be able to run an entire economy....thus far....it could work and try if you want just not.in my country because I love crony capitalism....you are trying to achieve utopia but I hope you don't succeed because then the world will be boring
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Dimitri Mendelev
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oh yah and its not just a coincidence that all wealthy country's are capitalist.....what else could attribute so significantly to a country's wealth...you have ti give me more then that
Quote " oh yah and its not just a coincidence that all wealthy country's are capitalist.....what else could attribute so significantly to a country's wealth...you have ti give me more then that "
democratically ellected goverments are the differnce between a poor country and rich , and when i say rich I mean the Quality of life for the joe public .I think communism has been more open to abuse from the top because they dont have to figth an election, they do not have to answer to the public .Hence once again the the public are being riped off . Yes i would like a fairer world were kids dont have to starve , families dont have to break up because of financial worries ,and the few dont control the many . This does not have to be boring . I can still have my Holiday in disny land , or go out on the piss at the weekend , more so with a shorter working week and more money to spend . Juat the rich havnt got so much any more . A fairer d
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Isn't that the principle of a co-operative?
I apologize for using economic terms. But they are basic concepts I'm sorry many of you don't understand. When dealing with such a loaded question it is difficult not to use them. Essentially I just stated that the poor will always stay poor, even if economic situation of the country increases the built in mechanism in capitalism will systematically raise particular costs to deal with the change in financial situation. If you don't believe me I can try to re-explain it, if you don't believe me and don't want me to re-explain then you shouldn't be here.
@ Mantoarms- The housing market may not have been as severe as I stated but it is in excess to 30% average decline in the price of homes. I have heard 42% quite oftenly but also as high 57% and as low as 34%. So it is difficult to get the proper numbers there. But this economic collapse isn't the point of this situation. A good example of my point would be the rap
I think you guys give capitalism to little credit with the exception of Nix there.
Capitalism controls everything. Money spent on education, the level of innovation we are able to pursue, the quality of medicine, tax levels, loopholes, even what interests we are allowed to pursue.
Case in point, software has an initial cost, but the material costs of software are pennies sold for lets say a video game at 60$ up to Maya Autodesk in the thousands. The justification of this to gain the most money, however pursuing these interests are something that is not at your discretion but that of others. Imagine if Maya was freeware substidized through donations, where would are visual technology be right now?
Quote " Case in point, software has an initial cost, but the material costs of software are pennies sold for lets say a video game at 60$ up to Maya Autodesk in the thousands. The justification of this to gain the most money, however pursuing these interests are something that is not at your discretion but that of others. Imagine if Maya was freeware substidized through donations, where would are visual technology be right now? "
Yes , i agree with that . War has also been the motivation for some big technology advances , just a shame it takes a war to drive this , as it is a shame that only money has the abilty to drive some peace time technology advances . But it is a fact .
Keeping on that theme , perhaps the perfect system is one that manipulate the motivation of people for the better off all . mmm that thougth just occurred to me , does it make sense ? lol