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State of the World Address

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Gaz

All worlds
27 Nov 2012 19:49Link
Im all for stability but if something is broke fix it.

What there asking for though is something you say you want? That's why I got the impression your for the levels.

Something has to change about fed's in war. The current system is no good.
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Jackseptic

All worlds
27 Nov 2012 20:43Link
wendy it is a fact that after i chased you off LU, taking FOUR of your countries and you only taking ONE of mine in 3 wars that youve made up excuses to attack me in. Only after you were gone over a real month i went up war lvls to get 6T in c3 wars instead of 5T and then the game master did change the rules that you could only fight within 2 war levels instead of 3. If your so tuff why do you stay at war level 2 on FB THE WAR WORLD ,what a joke Im not afraid of you one bit and im not or never did run from you, the way i see it its 3 to 1 in my favor as is . If you want to war meet me on GR where you are war level 3 and i am war level 3 :).. i do find suspicious how you waited for me to go to war level 6 before you came back to LU ?? wendy your an economic power house you have many other option other than war to exact your revenge, if a noob hostile bids one of your corps (which
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Jackseptic

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27 Nov 2012 20:45Link
excuse me FOUR to ONE ....Bring It !
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Jackseptic

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27 Nov 2012 21:19Link
if you want a challenge wendy move up to war level 4 on LU and youll have a chance to take back one of the countries i took from you, APACHE TRIBE :)
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SweetPea

All worlds
28 Nov 2012 00:40Link
Jack, you have quite an imagination. But let me get serious with you for just a minute.

Not a soul here other than your DeDmates believe a word of what you said.
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Jackseptic

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28 Nov 2012 10:25Link
whatever, you know im right.
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Orbiter

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28 Nov 2012 17:36Link
i believe jack
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Kiss_of_Death

All worlds
28 Nov 2012 19:07Link
I believe in Santa.
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SweetPea

All worlds
28 Nov 2012 21:50Link
Well Well, Josias. I'm not surprised.

However, you can believe whatever you want, it doesn't mean it is true. Lots of Kids believe in Santa, but we all know the truth on that.

I have some logs, based in reality to verify my claims. I carpet nuked Jack's empire twice. The last time, I took one real country(with real swag in it) and flattened the rest.

I don't have to fabricate stuff or pass pom-poms to players like Josias.

May 2,2012

5:15:39 PM) {Ru}>Victim: I have offered Jack terms once, but he refused to agree to them. Which is why I have continued these hostilities
(5:15:59 PM) redman: Were they fair terms?
(5:16:16 PM) Victim: Maybe when he visits the chatroom. You can convince him. To entertain my terms once again.
(5:16:37 PM) Victim: They were more than fair considering he could keep his once fruitful empire intact.
(5:1
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SweetPea

All worlds
28 Nov 2012 21:52Link
And Jack in his own words...

May 4, 2012

(3:04:21 AM) Victim: Now, for the last point. I'll need a public condemnation of corporate partner and his hostile bidding. Then we can seal this bad boy up.
(3:04:38 AM) Victim: Oh, you want me to compensate you?
(3:04:57 AM) jackseptic: yes please
(3:05:46 AM) Victim: Hm, well now we would definitely ask that you take much stronger measures than the present terms. I wasn't aware that we were negotiating for compensation, but rather for peace.
(3:06:23 AM) jackseptic: oh this is true
(3:06:47 AM) jackseptic: so kick that last part right out to
(3:08:50 AM) Victim: Well this interests me. How much do you think you have lost, in weapons, ammo, corps and population.
(3:08:56 AM) Victim: Throw me a number.
(3:09:08 AM) spacegeneral: 30T
(3:09:10 AM) Victim: Let me consider a coun
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SweetPea

All worlds
28 Nov 2012 22:09Link
And... more Jack..

May 7, 2012

Gravedigger is me lol.

(4:01:36 AM) GraVeDiGGer: lol, its cool I'm the only one who needs to read them so no biggie
(4:01:44 AM) GraVeDiGGer: type away
(4:02:18 AM) falcien: Well their arogant
(4:02:38 AM) falcien: Scarlet and jack septic pretty much was talking about nuking both of us in the kebir blue chat room
(4:02:44 AM) falcien: I steped in on it and surprised the,m
(4:02:45 AM) GraVeDiGGer: lol
(4:03:00 AM) GraVeDiGGer: Do you know what I was doing all this week falcien
(4:03:06 AM) falcien: ??
(4:03:17 AM) falcien: War on LU
(4:03:30 AM) GraVeDiGGer: Taking Jacks two best countries on LU. I took one but left him the other as I had nuked it so many times it was worthless to take
(4:03:41 AM) falcien: LMAO
(4:03:52 AM) GraVeDiGGer: they are just despe
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Crafty

All worlds
28 Nov 2012 23:26Link
Just thought I would add
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If both these players moved up the war levels to avoid warring a level 3, how can they be justified in being able to declare on a level 3, when they feel like it? Fed or not, that doesn't make sense. <!-/Quote-!>

which is NOT what those two are saying.

The point is about being able to defend your fed mates, not dec on anyone at random at different WLs, just a fufilment of the fed dec rules. No one was saying that should be able to dec first, just respond to a dec against one of their fed mates. A big difference.
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Orbiter

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29 Nov 2012 00:28Link
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Wilhelm II Hohensteinburg

All worlds
29 Nov 2012 00:34Link
I honestly believe in Wendy lol, I've witnessed her wrath and fighting here in White Giant.
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Orbiter

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29 Nov 2012 00:49Link
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i removed my posts, because i really am trying to be mellow. anyways, i still believe jack.
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SweetPea

All worlds
29 Nov 2012 01:28Link
@Crafty, it still doesn't sound right.

The war levels were made to separate. If you moved yourself into a higher class, you should not be able to move down, counter-dec down. If not the whole system is pointless.

And then after all is said and done, it still won't be enough. They'll demand more changes and have you on the sideline trying to justify their righteous cause.

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@Orbiter... no one cares lol. And uh.. Merry X-mas to you too?
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
29 Nov 2012 04:22Link
Thank you crafty

I know and accept that i should not be able to dec a war level 3 when im war level 7. When "DECCING" someone i should follow those rules. When i "SIGNED" the war dec for a fed that should be he only time a higher war level should fight a lower.

What if it was the other way round what if 2 higher levels where fighting and a LOWER level wanted to help, should he/she be told.

No your to low a war level so we deem you to be to incompetent to fight these people?
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SweetPea

All worlds
29 Nov 2012 04:34Link
***yaaawns***

Super go start a vote.
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Crafty

All worlds
29 Nov 2012 10:59Link
Dont thank me Super, I'm impartial in your issues with Jack and Wendy.

I was just trying to see things from an outsiders point of view. I'll try to keep my nose out of it now.
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Orbiter

All worlds
29 Nov 2012 12:07Link
anyways, i lost a game of chess, the guy forced the stupid bishop knight thing into the corner, and i got both for my rook, with the right pawns outta the way i was in command, and i out thought a pawn move, and vola, i lose... i do love that chess server, thanks bunches!!
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Jackseptic

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29 Nov 2012 20:10Link
like i said im war level 3 on GR if youve got any problems with me ILL MEET YOU THERE !! cause im pretty sure that i caused alot more damage in taking your 4 countries then you did to any of mine ..never got below an 90 war index fighting you so like i said im not scared :) oh and i landed alot more nukes than you did ..you forget to talk about all that thou lol
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SuperSoldierRCP

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29 Nov 2012 22:51Link
Its not CREEPY AT ALL that people save chat convos from 6months ago...
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SweetPea

All worlds
30 Nov 2012 00:23Link
Super, the client is called pidgin, and IT saves the logs. I just like the fact that they are there so when you or Jack attempt to twist history, it is there to stare you in the face.

That story was pretty cool until I popped those logs out huh? Took you all day to respond. Poor Form children, poor form.

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ArCUK, before joining your fed Jack, was a member of Sons of Light. I left LU after beating your empire into a pulp, and then he joined you soon after. Not sure why, perhaps he felt pity for you.

He actually gave me the ground access to Crazyville, CrazyEye and watched me take one and level the other.

So the nonsense about never going below 90 WI, is pretty funny. When you take a country, obviously the War index hits 0. You must be pretty desperate to save face, the lying route isn't working try another approach.

Keep smoking whatever it is... must be some good
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SweetPea

All worlds
30 Nov 2012 17:22Link
It is very interesting that in the start of this, my intention was to avoid a hostile bid by a member of JackSeptic's federation from going through in my CEO.

Initially, I thought it was done intentionally. I can see that following the posts in this thread that my initial hypothesis is supported after all this posturing by Jack and his inability to address the problem and instead trying to provoke a negative response from me.

Indeed, there will be a response, on LU where the infraction occurred, FIRST. And then in other worlds as I see it fit. I understand that need for redemption Jack, but you have lowered yourself to a level below a simply defeated presence, and instead have occupied a station of further self-inflicted humiliation. Which again, in turn fuels an even stronger desire for some semblance of redemption.

Let me remind you, there is nothing wrong with admitting a loss. You would not be in weak company, in reality m
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Kiss_of_Death

All worlds
30 Nov 2012 17:38Link
I have no stake in this, but since Jackseptic asked for my advise in chat the other day, I have a couple of questions.

Where is the "noob" in all of this, who caused this conflict? Surprising...very quiet indeed.

Jack, per my recommendation, has any attempts been made towards making retribution to Wendy for the "hostile" bid?

I recommended an attempt towards diplomacy in this conflict, but I'm not seeing this from your posts. I see them as further flaming the issue, not coming to any peaceful resolution.

Therefore, I'm confused from our discussion the other day. Just saying. I'm taking no sides, as utlimately, this IS the game, whether you agree with Wendy or not. As a leader, she has the right to decide whether she feels wronged. Just as you do, Jack.

I wish you both well and hope it can be settled peacefully, unless you wish to just have a good old fashion fight. *winks