W3C - Shortages of wind turbines

Let me know if I can provide any additional information. I am having issues in almost all of my countries with wind farms (about 30 countries).

Could it be that specifically "best price" strategy has issues? Players using other strategies aren't having as many issues as I am.

I'll clarify for EeeeeOOOooo:

Hodg Industries on white giant, best price (various qualities), "some left" to "too high" on amount left. Note part of production is contracted.

Hodg Industries 2 on white giant. trailing quality 10% (various qualities), "none" unsold. Also note part of production contracted.

These two enterprises have been building wind turbine corps at the same time at the same rate, both auto upgrading, both buying supplies at same quality, if production is contracted both enterprises offer it at same time, the market has steadily been in shortage, yet one sells all every month, the other doesn't.

Andy,
Did you not look at nevrondona empire? There's are many examples of WT corps with unsold products. They are not contracted to my country. They are not producing at high Q, it is 120Q. They are set to best price. Bellville Wind Turbines is an example. It has 2 months of product unsold currently. There are many other examples.

Can you confirm, in any of these examples, that products are offered at BEST at ANY quality?

I see claims of offering products and they are not sold but no explicit BEST at ANY quality.

when there is such a huge shortage, these offers are sold first.

This is one type of a strategy.

having specified a strategy, does not guarantee sales.

there must be a match with someone who is buying.

there could be a problem but I did not see it yet.

I found, with help on the forum, 3 of my corporations that were not selling.
I found out that they were not offering at BEST and at ANY quality.

There was a quality specified and a price.

Andy,

One example Indio Wind Turbines.





Note this is January 20, 5072 on White Giant

Andy, are you insinuating that I can choose to sell my 120Q products as if they were a different quality? I understand the concept of offering products at BEST price as you say but you lose me at the selling them at ANY quality. If I knew how to share screenshots on here I would but already gave you my country that has nearly 100 WT corps with all non-contracting corps sitting on hundreds of unsold ~ 120Q all offered at best price. And there's your own corps you could look at on LU that were pointed out as well.

Andy
YES Bellville WT is set to sell at best price just like you showed. I already said that in my previous post. It still has unsold products even though I put in multiple orders to purchase at the highest allowed pricefrom countries all over WG. YES it sells 120Q. NO it isn't contracted to anyone.
I have already shared this repeatedly. It is not the only example I have. If I knew how to share a screenshot here, I could show you. But why would I? I have a brick wall to bang my head into which would likely be more productive than this conversation. Smh

Yes, I use best price in all countries and enterprises currently. It had worked fine until the recent changes to turbines, and only turbines are an issue. I'm having issues both with sales in corps and with country purchases as indicated above.

Auditor,

I checked the Wind Turbines 077 corporation.

It is selling each month.
20+ wind turbines.
The corporation is making a profit.

you can see this on the trade page. There is a log of recent sales.
the quality is 120-130.

The corporation also has 170+ unsold wind turbines.

I think that these are offered at a higher quality and do not come through.
if you will retract these offers and offer the products again, at any quality, they will be sold.

EO,

The change in the recent upgrade was to refuse immediate transactions for WTs and WFs.
Many buying orders (there are many more buying orders than offers),
converted automatically to immediate orders.
Immediate orders came through, at a very high price and the huge shortage allowed absurd transactions to take place.

This is not happening any more.
Immediate orders are not executed.

Zentrino,

I would love to look into this corporation.
I don't know where it is.

we need world name, country name and corporation name.

Andy,

To EO's point I showed you an example selling at Best Price strategy with 2 unsold (rest contracted). As I posted above I have one enterprise selling at best and most turbine corps have unsold product (Hodg Industries) and one trailing quality by 10% (hodg Industries 2) where all product is sold. Here is another example:



The product quality is 120 still, August 4th 5072 on White Giant.

Hey Andy,

I understand you may be seeing some best price orders go through. Something is still not right, however.

For example. The current demand for all of White Giant is roughly 250,000 turbines.

My empire alone has over 450,000 demand.

How does that make sense?

In Jiggle's post above this, I can see that in some cases, best price sales are not going through each game month despite demand in the picture.

Consider what you are saying. You suspect that unsold products are unsold because they are at too high of a quality and the solution is to take the offers down manually and put them back up, selling at ‘any’ quality. Please make that make sense.

What I was saying is that these corporations, you claimed did not sell, are selling and they are profitable.
They are selling all their produce each game month.

you have no need to manually do anything.

To date, I did not see any corporations, producing WTs, selling its products at BEST price and ANY quality that is not selling.

EO,

Many of your orders automatically converted into immediate orders and then did not buy anything and are not on the queue any more.

We will stop the automatic conversion into immediate orders.
It will have some consequences for some corporations not receiving products they need but there is no justification to the automatic conversions and deliveries at a much higher price.

I still don't think that's the only issue. Many of my corporations are not selling products while set at "best price" settings either.

I'll wait to comment further till we can see how removing the conversion to immediate orders works.

You keep saying selling at ANY quality. Explain that please. You seem to be implying that I'm trying to sell my 120Q WTs as if they were 330Q while also still selling at BEST price. From all appearances, the sales that are being made are on products that were placed on the market many many months ago, current products made are not sold as they are made and sit on the market for many months. The sales that you are seeing are from WTs that were made quite some time ago. Again if you would let me know how to share screenshots on here I can show you exactly that from the exact corporation that you referenced.

@Auditor - check the "formatting tab" on the left in the forum. It has instructions on posting images.

Do not post an image description, just put one space there instead.

Yep just tried it a few times and there's still something I'm missing. Followed your instructions to the prompt and attached the .png file and got errors. Regardless, Andy you shouldn't need a screenshot. The exact corporation you were referring has 7 months of unsold WTs, the 7 most recent months including the current month. Yes there do appear to be sales, but those sales will be products placed on the market 7 months ago as current still sit and go unsold. There is absolutely a problem with WT and market sales based on your recent change. 7 months of product in the tens of thousands of WT corporations in across the worlds is not a small deal. This problem is happening with no other products.

Also while I have been begging for months about fixing the financial index reporting to the actual values that were being earned, now that you have EP provided by wind coming in at a consistent quality level I beg you beg you beg you to fi

Seems like WT would be a good Direct Trade Item?

Andy
Nevrondona empire
Wg
Belville Wind turbines which is just one of many examples in that country.
I posted it in the first comment when I mentioned the company. It was ignored.
In Feb 5073, it has 40 unsold WT. It sells at best price. It does not follow quality. It has no contracts.

I feel your frustration Zentrino. Andy's own slave country on LU that I've pointed out a couple times now has 3 WT corps all sitting on a combined (at time of this posting) 555 unsold WTs with a 4.6m market shortage using his own sales settings that he says are the problem everyone is having but he insists everything is working as intended.

Bellville wind turbines in nevrondona empire on wg continues to have unsold product. The unsold amount is less than it has been, but last night I issued orders from multiple countries offering the maximum allowed price so there shouldn't be any unsold products. WT remain in the red, Bellville releases all is product on the market, sells at best price, produces 120Q. You asked for an example and I provided it 4 days ago. The problem persists.

And now nevrondona empire is auto building corporations (cable TV) because it says my employment is low. My profit is fine in the country and would be higher if my corps would sell all their stuff. Employment is only low because 200+ WF corps went bankrupt in about a weeks time, and I'm still building new corps in other things. The auto order of corps either shouldn't happen or should allow me to list what corps I want (or don't want), or should build things I'm already building. As soon as I'm allowed, the cable Corp will be closed. It's already on my not profitable enough list. If you want us to build everything, everything needs to have similar profit margins.

Often, I have individual countries that have more demand for turbines than is shown on the entire planet. Something is still quite broken. Just now, the WG turbine market showed a shortage of ~80,000 turbines. I have several countries with more than 100k shortage.

I can fix these with contracts but I am not because these discoveries show something is still broken. I can't be having more than 400 or 500k demand on my own with the global market showing only 80k. It's not correct.