Ive always said this war levels should be the same for everyone. You be allowed to attack 2 above or below 1 should be allowed to attack 3 and 3 should be able to attack 1... Also if you sign a war dec you should be allowed to fight requardless the war level. Just cuz im war level 8 and my buddy is war level 5 and gets decced by 2-war level 3 i cant help him?
problem with that sup, is the way you suggest, would invite all the multi's (that don't exist by the way,) to create low level accounts, and fed them up with their main accounts, and then pummel all the newbs, and econ only-s, into the ground.
but their is no multi problem in SC, it not a problem, its a game feature.
The main reason for the war levels is to protect players who do not want to fight, or want to take their time before getting to it.
We do think and wrote here about it recently, that the restrictions at higher war levels can be relaxed. There is a big difference between FB and the other worlds and that difference can be made smaller.
Most players at war level 1 and 2 are protected anyway because they have a single country. the war level gives them the limited freedom to fight smaller wars, conquer several countries, and keep their protection without going into higher cost of war protection (free members do not have these gold coins).
After some time in the game, they should be exposed to the war game. if level 2 protection might expire after some time, full members can use the much stronger defense options that we have now (and more were announced), or use war protection.
I agree with the statement that economic players should not be forced into building a defense, but they should have to pay for protection. The same is true for war players. They should not (and they are not) be able to wage war without a financial cost.
If a war player does not have some sort of economy they must pay for their wars with GC's or they must raid C3's, either way there is a cost. The same should be for economic players. There should be a cost.
with out a GC market, how are econ-only players suppose to buy WP?
if its made to the point that i have to swipe my card to keep more than one country safe, then i'll end up having 1 country. and then whats the point?
econ players have a significant disadvantage with score, and monthly awards. that is not a complaint from me, in fact, it seems fair. less risk, less reward.
i always though secured mode for the main was a very fair way of administering war protection for people this war level stuff is to complicated and unneeded.... well its not complicated but i know many people who are at war level 1 and 2 and still dont seem to get that they are not part of the war game.... if you want to protect people better and help the war game allow free players to have more then one slave.... as it is now free players have to take their main out of secured to participate in the war game.... if you increased the amount of slaves free players could get you would see an increase in war and then free players could keep their mains in secured
I think that there is an agreement on more war incentive for war players and fewer limitations.
The new defense capabilities make this easier now than before.
We will start to relax the rules, possibly in the coming update or the next one. We will also complete some additional functions that make it easier for countries to defend themselves against a sudden attack and reduce the chance of destruction while asleep.
as these functions become available, we may relax the war rules even further.
As to war protection for economic players, this remains a problem and war levels 1 and 2 currently offer a solution.
Josias if you read my post a few posts earlier I said
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As stated earlier there is a cost for war players in the fact that they have to generate cash somehow to pay for their style of play. The same should be true for the 'econ' players. They should have to pay for their desire to play the econ only side just as the 'war' players must pay to play their style.
i missed that, right on serp, although i think my stance stays about the same, unless its a % of profit, IE, a econ based player thats not making money shouldn't be booted out into the scary world of things that go bump in the grass.
my $.02 if it matters any I have spent "real money" on this game once because I like the way it setup you can either play war or not. But if this becomes strictly a war game then I will take my money elsewhere which probably wont bother the GM or anyone else for that matter
noone will ever force you into a war viper i think andy has been very careful in implementing features that will keep people and their countries safe i think i like the sound of these new updates he speaks of now
viper before the war levels there was secure mode and WP. I played 2years and was never attacked... Why becuase i was social and made freinds and allies. Thats what the game SHOULD be about not limiting warring based on a level. So if your going to "Whine" (yes i use that term) remember we already had that and the GM put in the levels to help protect the new players. War in my opinion should ALWAYS be around if you want to be econ only stay @ war level one otherwise allow 1-2 to join the PVP game but have restrictions like they can only war 1 above or below.
Also if i sign a fed dec i SHOULD be allowed to auto dec regardless of the others war level. If my buddies attacked and i signed i help him period.
and side note. can we go back to 1.5T per war level? once you pass war level 6 and start fighting steath its VERY hard to make money.
At war level 11 you fighting 500Q wing(100total) and garrisons, you
Although I've never been here that long, I believe that when we had the old war rules that it was a great time, and I do agree with supersoldier as well. I think 1.5T would be a great implementation despite me not even being in WL6+. I have been experimenting with weapons, and end up making hardly any profit.
viper maybe you do need multiple forms of war protection because I don't much like you.... we are all making good points and you continue to babble without making any good points or providing any good reasons for your arguments