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CEO Enterprises becoming obsolete?

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Drew

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08 Jun 2012 23:34Link
With that logic the common market is also a fool's errand. Not saying it isn't, but if that is the case then this really needs to be fixed right? If it doesn't work to feed your own supplies because profits are too low then why does the common market exist? too screw over your trade allies?
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Marshal Ney

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11 Jun 2012 05:50Link
The common market is not a fool's errand. The way it is utilized however, is.

Vertical Integration - I'll look into it. But again, supplying those at 190 to yourself, and foregoing selling the same for 390 is a loss of profitability. It all depends upon your corporations and supplies. I'm looking into militaristic mercantilism myself.
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Lord Lee

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11 Jun 2012 13:50Link
Profits going up in Enterprise:

AAA on Little Upsilon made $594.56B last game month and on average is making about $500B a game month.

Lord Lee
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jansen

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12 Jun 2012 03:00Link
im making severe negative profits with 100 corps id like to see some changes as i play pure CEO
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Pat Quinn

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14 Jun 2012 23:48Link
SO, I was thinking, that a 100-120Q Electric Power and 100-120Q Factory maintenance wouldn't be unprofitable, and would be a solid way to start your variable supply quality trading strategy through vertical integration. Thoughts?
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Phoenix King

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15 Jun 2012 04:06Link
dont ry vertical intergration in this sim, not a good way to make profits but it is a good way to have stable inventory.
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Crafty

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15 Jun 2012 17:21Link
Horizontal differentation.

The only way to go ;P
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Drew

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16 Jun 2012 18:10Link
I'm not gonna argue really, because in this sim you guys are right. Why make a corp with limited profitibility when you can instead make a corp of the most profitible industry at the time? But if you think of the big picture in terms of every corp on the planet it causes market stability. One way or another you need supplies they cost money, you can control that cost. If they are unprofitable that sucks, if you are capable of cutting costs more to your profit centers then the loss it is a sound investment. But since this isn't always the case in which the loss can be larger the same holds true about the common market, they sell to their trade partners for a reduced rate, essentially crushing their profitability the exact same way as if you creating a corp to replace them. This all leads back to the intent of this thread. Independent (control) costs are too high for corps that not only make supply corps and the common market completel
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Marshal Ney

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16 Jun 2012 22:31Link
Just remember one thing about basic economics - the creation of wealth. Enterprises and corporations are third rate cousins at wealth creation, no matter where they are located. Countries and the war game is where wealth creation (ie input from outside the player base) shines. That's why I'm dropping economics in favor of mercantilism.

Market stability via the creation of corporations is a pipe dream. Even if enough corporations were created, prices will still fluctuate wildly in certain products, and that will increase in the future. Too many recessionary changes without corresponding fiscal policy have ensured that market cornering and dumping will continue to proliferate. The drops in corporate value needs to be balanced with a reduction in the monetary supply in proportion to the loss of value. While I am sure all the long term veterans have worked hard to get to where they are at - multiplying their game advantage by th
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Phoenix King

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17 Jun 2012 08:15Link
Try to get your production levels above 115% all the way to 121% you should be able to make alot more profit.
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Tom Morgan

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17 Jun 2012 10:12Link
I don't play CEOs for fun. I play them to supplement my empire, and I find that I can leave a CEO for a week without even bothering to check in, and it will have made a few trillion. Boom. Easy money. It's easily worth it. If it ain't being profitable, then change some trade strats, relocate some corps, tweak some settings, and we're set.

Just a question- what does everyone else have as their default salary? Mine's 225 but if hiring is lower than usual I raise the amount for an individual corp.
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Crafty

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17 Jun 2012 18:01Link
Lol, we used to run corps at 1000 - 1200 salary here a while back.
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Christopher Michael

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17 Jun 2012 18:03Link
Yep....things sure have changed.
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dboyd3702

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18 Jun 2012 00:26Link
You should be able to make profit just by selling products that are in a constant high demand, however from what I see the GM still has a heavy hand in the buy and sell values.
I just took a look at Books and Newspapers for instance, over the last nineteen months demand on WG has never been able to catch up to supply (The best was 13 months ago at about a shortage of 880M) yet the price follows a very obvious pricing pattern of down, down, down, up, down, down, down, down, up and repeat. Why is the price going down at all (Not to mention most other products in short fall follow the same pattern)?
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Christopher Michael

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18 Jun 2012 01:43Link
Andy said a mouth full when he stated on another thread that "Fair price is not always the free market."

Though he was talking about gold coin exchange rates, it is obvious that this philosophy is also occurring on the world markets.

They are not letting supply and demand dictate pricing.....that is more clear now than it ever was.

SOURCE THREAD: Why aren't there any gold coins to trade for game money available? (Little Upsilon)
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SuperSoldierRCP

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18 Jun 2012 02:31Link
I agree with crafty

I used to run 1100salaries in all corps and make 151% production with a PROFIT of a few Billion

I HAD NUKE CORPS TURNING A PROFIT!!!(thats hard) now you barely can do 500 without busting the bank
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dboyd3702

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18 Jun 2012 02:37Link
And the countries made a profit as well...
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Marshal Ney

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20 Jun 2012 03:09Link
As a related question, what happened to the service industry at that time? I note that in doc's the GM's reserve the right to enter into that market.

Was there a cabal of people manipulating the markets?