Shooting at Sikh Temple in Wisconsin

It's been reported that there's 7 dead, counting the gunman.

I've been hearing that this gunman is racist and thought the Sikh Temple was actually a mosque for Muslims and thought it was a Ramadan Celebration going on. Until, a Sikh told him they weren't muslims, he must have killed himself then. (Unconfirmed reports)

What's your take on this? About the gun law, criminals will always find a way to get a gun, remember the Hollywood shootout in the 90's? Those guns were illegal, but criminals will always try to find a way to obtain it, like smuggle it through mexico.

Get rid of guns! I have dozens of friends from oak creek so that really angered me, luckily no one I knew was there

Actually he was killed by a second cop after he ambushed one that was helping a victim outside the temple. I've lived in WI my whole life, albeit on the other side of the state, but this does NOT reflect on the rest of us. It doesn't matter whether a thousand gun laws are passed or there's none at all on the books, crazy people will always find a way to do senseless acts of mass violence like this unfortunately.

Can't wait for the gun-nuts to flood this thread with "If someone had had a gun in the Mosque, then this wouldn't have happened!"

For pete's sake, get rid of the guns!

Dun tick off this gun totin' Mama, Tom. Jannie's got a gun. :-P (j/k) I'm a firm believer in a person's right to own a gun for self protection. There will always be hoodlums who will find guns and do these horrendous acts whether there is a gun law in place or not. I'm tellin' ya, if more Moms would make their kids cut their hair (like Drew above) and enforce rules at home, we wouldn't have these wacko kids in our country going out and shooting up theatres, mosques, whatever. It is a failure in our society and in the home, not because guns exist. Duh!

Sowwy Drew...I'm teasing you before you start whining and calling me a fascist. lol

I understand the anti gun argument, truly I do, and I don't demean or put anyone down for having that view. I am an avid sportsman, and love the outdoors, especially hunting. I've handled guns since I was a kid, and was taught the incredible mantle of responsibility that came with the right to own/operate a weapon of potentially deadly power. The only point I was trying to make is that even if you were able to outlaw all firearms and make them unavailable to the general public theoretically, somehow immoral people would be able to get a hold of them i.e. criminals. It's really no different than the argument to keep drugs illegal or to legalize them when you think about it. I think it all comes down to two things really:
1. It's plainly obvious that somehow this maniac was able to get deadly weapons that he should never have been able to get in the first place. I truly don't think that taking away rights for all to deny it to

IL but I went to school in WI

plus one lorelei

why do people only want to get rid of things that mean nothing to them (guns).lets close the bars and pubs where people won't have to drink and drive.as i have stated before drinking and driving kills and injures more people than guns but i guess no one will jump on this band wagon.

Yes, I agree, let us ban books!, because I just killed a mouse with one and books obviously serve no other purpose beyond killing mice.

Don't equate weapons, objects made with the intent to kill and harm, with objects made and quite clearly used for other more benign purposes.

In fact, I see it as more of a case of probability than of intent. One is more likely to kill with intent recurring to a gun, than he is to kill with a car. One is more likely to kill with a knife in cases of insanity or self-protection than with a gun.

@ Elliot, no one will jump on the drink driving band wagon? Are you sure? Come out from under that rock.

@Kieth, you have a reasoned outlook except for one gist of your arguement. You sort of equate the arguements of gun control with drug control: Guns should be allowed in the public domain as there will always be the odd nutter regardless, well how about drugs then? I would reckon most all dope smokers go about their highs without bothering anyone, only the odd person suffers some psychosis from it and injures/kills another person. So why is cannabis outlawed but guns aren't then?

I know, now people are saying "ooo, but pot leads to stronger things...", hmm, well my childhood love of a .177 air rifle made me more interested in better guns. I even got to training with a full automatic as a naval cadet. And there are lot, a LOT, of people around who use cocaine socially, bet any of you know at least two. I've even

@Crafty, I have to agree with your point. To be honest I really don't know why cannabis is illegal and all sorts of firearms are allowed. I own plenty of guns and try to go to the range once a month, but I figure as long as I'm being responsible and no one is getting hurt, then it should be all good. The only thing I was trying to get across is that it makes no sense to outlaw something for all simply because of a few people have absolutely no self restraint/sanity.

Mr Tom Morgan is a perfect example of my scare a thon theory. He says I cant wait for the gun nuts to jump on this thread, but has his own opinions hes getting across his self. Blame someone for wanting to make a point before they even have a chance then he does exactly what hes complaining about someone else doing " Get rid of the guns! "

Scare a Thon
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Within hours of the tragic shooting in Aurora, Colorado at a screening of the new Batman movie, the political machine is already gearing up to exploit the incident as a tool to demonize the second amendment and characterize Americans who are against big government as extremists. Now every uninformed idiot who thinks everything is as it seems is screaming get rid of the guns. This was the agenda all along, only instead of saying we want to take away your guns to make you our slaves ultimately, we want you to beleive its what you want so you dont catch on until its

" Mr Tom Morgan is a perfect example of my scare a thon theory. He says I cant wait for the gun nuts to jump on this thread, but has his own opinions hes getting across his self. Blame someone for wanting to make a point before they even have a chance then he does exactly what hes complaining about someone else doing " Get rid of the guns! " "

And how is my """scare-a-thon""" any different from the politically powerful National Rifle Association using scare tactics to manipulate the truth?

You've been owned. Please take your seat.


" @Crafty, I have to agree with your point. To be honest I really don't know why cannabis is illegal and all sorts of firearms are allowed. I own plenty of guns and try to go to the range once a month, but I figure as long as I'm being responsible and no one is getting hurt, then it should be all good. The only thing I was trying to g