Tensions reaching fever-pitch between Japan and China

Yeah, I heard about those, underwater booger torpedoes too, for taking out aircraft carriers

Lol, oi! Don't take the mickey! lol

M2M,

65 million people would not get involved in the war. I'm not sure how you can justify that, i really can't. As for the last two wars, it was the EU and US against 1 country at a time. We all know the second reason why the war was taken up by the US. I've read my history, and done the math, but thanks for trying xD

Right, i'll give an example. I despise the c*nt, but it's relative to my point. Bin Laden planned an executed the attack on the two towers, and the pentagon. The biggest financial storage of data in the world, which truely, fudged the world. THAT could be envisaged as a victory. The bombing of the London underground, could be envisaged as a victory. You're probably asking, how? How? Because they set out with a plan, executed it, and got their predicted outcome.

In the case of China Russia US UK etc etc, i haven't a clue what they

who called Sunshine stupid???!!! I am NOT happy about this! *Adds them to my list!

ooh man I want to be on the "LIST"

Jan sunny is a an idiot. I'm Manager of Asian investments andhe flat out told be I'm wrong. My philosophical believes are controversial and argument is fine. But this I know!

South Korea can't do anything about north Korea because of Russia and north Korea would strike Japan first. They have thmanpower and the availability to be involved. But the emphasis is they have the ttechnology to manufacture against China

Saudi Arabia is not willing to jeapordize it's trade relations with the US as they are also important intermediatary to Europe as some counties they can't trade directly to as it would have a harse political backlash. Not to mention arms trades have been in the decline as US have been offering much superior technology in comparison. Russia typically sells to more undeveloped countries because of a failure to compete with the US. But none of that really matters because so much of there GNP is dependant on the U

Right.

I was being nice, now i'll just tell you simply, something that will make you keep your trap shut.

I'm a partner with Anthony Ponsford who deal in Import & Exporting as well as retailing across the world.

We're now also moving towards becoming major shareholders within a dozen high tech companies across the world.

Unless you have the facts in-front of you, keep that gobby mouth closed.

P.s. That's my response to your post, as i totally ignored the rest.

Quote " I'm a partner with Anthony Ponsford who deal in Import & Exporting as well as retailing across the world."
So what !
You would class 9/11 as a war winning victory for Bin Laden . What rubish . I cant believe u even wrote that , after all the deaths and chaos it brougth to both sides and u call that a vitory , it wasnt even the end of the war so wat are u on about , you say it " got their predicted outcome " -really , u think so , how would u know wat they wanted out off it , just to kill on U.S mainland is all they wanted .

you keep telling my to research , something you have not done or you would of been aware of this -
Russia is the world's largest mineral and energy supply and is known as an "energy superpower", containing 22% of the world's oil, 16% of the world's coal, and 40% of the world's natural gas. Very well known for its tree's, Russia has 1/5 of the world's

Ugh,

I can see this topic is going to start hurting my head. lol

M2M, that statement was meant for DREW, unless you're running a dual account, keep your prissy little nose out of it. By the way, what do you mean by 'So what !' ? How stupid do you have to be to type that, and no realize what i was corresponding to?

Right, now that's settled, moving on.

'You would class 9/11 as a war winning victory for Bin Laden . What rubish . I cant believe u even wrote that , after all the deaths and chaos it brougth to both sides and u call that a vitory , it wasnt even the end of the war so wat are u on about , you say it " got their predicted outcome " -really , u think so , how would u know wat they wanted out off it , just to kill on U.S mainland is all they wanted'

You sir, are now the most retarded person on the planet. Not only did the UNITED STATES PRESS, economists, and GENERALS say

That was the best you could come up with .
1- You now agree with me in that most off Russia wealth does not come from arms dealing alone . thanks

2-You now agree that the population of a nation has a influance in a world war . Thankyou agian .

3- Quote "You sir, are now the most retarded person on the planet. Not only did the UNITED STATES PRESS, economists, and GENERALS say it was what he had hoped for, but so did half of the worlds investigators. You are seriously, retarded."

I ask you agian , do you class this as a war winning victory for Bin Ladden ?

4- Why as a person off supposed inteligence do you keep resorting to such personal remarks .
Quote " You are seriously, retarded ,Unless you have the facts in-front of you, keep that gobby mouth closed ,Are you on crack son?

I think we all know why !

Oh for the love of god.

I was being civil like 3 posts before this.

1, yes i do agree. you want a cookie with that celebration?
2, *sigh* *shakes head*
3, Do i class it? Yes i do.
4, It's not personal, i wouldn't type anything personal on this game. It's out of sheer frustration that i type some harsh remarks.

I'm not going to reply to your posts M2M, it's doing my head in. I'd rather look back to what DREW was saying, as well as SS.

OK i will let you of the hook after this .

If Bin Laddens victory was to drag the U.S and its close Allies into the mother off all wars in the middle east , than it failed . He is dead , all the top men involved are dead , there organising is vstly reduced and the whole of the Muslim world has not erupted into war . The goverment that harboured them has been de-governed . It has been a hard figth and the U.S have taking the brunt of must of it follwed by its close friend us the U.K , but the 9/11 was no victory for Bin Ladden , was a bad bad mistake .he totally mijudged the reaction of the world . Surely you can see that .

Thanks for the debate and i look forwared to the next .
M2M

*added PALM to my list. MantoArms, you better be praying that I LET YOU off the hook. You do NOT argue wif Sunshine like that. Only I can argue wif Sunshine like that!!!! You are now number 1 on my list!!!! Sunshine, KILL him!!!!!

Drew, please be kind to my Sunshine. I have a soft spot for him and feel protective. But I loves ya, I would NEVER put you on my list. But this M2M person....they on da list!!!

Ok , to get back on to topic .
I do not profes to be a expert , just my thougts based on the info i think i know .

If it came to a war .
Lets but this into three stages .

1- Nukes , let us assume that if came to this then no one wins , god forbid . So assume were talking conventional war .

2- The intital skirmish with military and hardware allready in place . The intitail reaction off Allies .

3- The long term world war , Industry - how much , wat quality and how quick they can produce . The type of regruitment , numbers , capacity to train and quality . Who wwill win the numbers game .

Japan and China declare war , I dont think Russia would jump in unless the U.S does , i think the U.S would be very reluctant but any attack by China would drag them in , dont think they would have a choice , japan despite having there Military cap lifted is still far outnumbered by China , the U.S would have to offer

To all of saying Russia would come for China, please explain to me why a war involving China and Japan would evolve into a Russian matter? What treaty have the Russian and the Chinese signed to warrant mutual defence/offence?

As for my thoughts on the probability of war, they are slim to nil.

I Agree , there is slim to no chance of war .
I believe Russia would get involved as a direct reaction to any U.S involvment . I have noticed a lot more mutual supportive decisions being made by China and Russia of late .
Althougth it has to be accepted that Russia and China historically have had a lot of disputes on there borders .

Thanks Lorelei I don't know the buttons for the smilies. So (super big huge awesome smiley face) in text form ;). Sorry I haven't been in the chat or haven't commented on any of your fun conversations I've just been real busy lately. I hope all is well with you. I just like these threads more.

@ Sunny sometimes I'm consciencous sometimes I'm hyped. Sometimes I try to be careful how I say things, sometimes I don't. I mean no real disrespect, but I don't think knowing volume changes or resource quanity makes you a better indicator of diplomacy, fighting ability, demographics, or a lot of things you claim.

I started animosity off the bat, so I am sorry, but a lot of your information is flawed. Russis is a poor nation relative to most of Europe and the US. It cannot keep up with the US on Weapons technology, this is a very very true statement. This problem becomes exasberrated when it puts

I can see a few different scenarios evolving, depending on who is in power at the same time, and who loses their senses first.
1: North Korea decides to take advantage of the situation and invades South Korea, threatening japan with annhilation if they make a move. China supports N Korea, always has, and will probably lend a few million troops if the war lasts more than a week.Japan, justly terrified, calls on the U.S. for protection. The U.S. writes a strongly worded letter to N Korea, suggesting that it should play nice. No response except reprisals against U.S. citizens, S Korean civilians, etc. The U.S. bombs Nkorea to the stone age, China pulls back its forces, and everyone starts breathing again.
2: It is now 2025, no one remembers WW2, and there are now 2 Billion Chinese and 2 Billion Indians and pakistanis needing "Lebensraum" (living space, a la Hitler, 1938). Russia is still largely comparatively empty, so the hordes pour

It's no problem, Drew. My life has turned super busy too........ plotting the demise of certain players in this game. Between that and painting my nails and deciding what outfit and boots to wear, I can hardly find time to post as well!!! :P

Drew, dun worry. I like the less "intellectual" threads, ones where I dun have to think. ha ha ha ha But do come visit me on one of MINE. :P

lol i didnt even read this and i know sunny doesnt really know what hes talking about

You leave Sunshine alone, Alexandrov Stolin. You are already on my list of those to die. I just put another star by your name. Your death will be slow and painful, I assure you!

Holy hell, i'm away from this for a day or two and all hell explodes.

Laguna, there is no PUBLIC treaty that can be looked at, or spoken of. What there is however is the RIC. Russia - India - China triangle. This is largely based upon their academic, industrial and business communities. They have already set up subsidiaries like RIC Trilateral Experts Meeting on Disaster Management, Trilateral Business Forum, and Trilateral Academic Scholars Dialogue, and held other trilateral projects and conferences in these specialised fields. It is this expanding component of trilateral initiatives that remain the backbone of their growing mutual comfort and expanding weight relative to their global perspectives and aspirations. That is what I BELIEVE would initiate the 'treaty'.

I once again state, as i said near the beginning of my fudging posts, i doubt they'll even be a war.

As you asked me not to bring up your name, i&#

War

It's war, all out war
Between me, myself, and I
It's war, all out war
Between the the needle and the eye
It's war, all out war
Between the voices in my head
It's war, all out war
Between the feathers and the lead
It's war, all out war
Between desire and sudden death
It's war, all out war
Between the woman and her last breath
It's war, all out war
Between the people clad in black
It's war, all out war
Between the love that they now lack
It's war, all out war
Between the man and his strife
It's war, all out war
Between his love and his new life
It's war, all out war
Between the heart and the head
It's war, all out war
As the man falls over dead

Claire Borges

@Sunshine, It's okay. I likes having a list... a loooooooong list. It makes me happy. :-) :P :-)

@Crafty, Thank you for sharing this wonderful, poetic representation of war, and what it's good for. *HUGS* It inspires me to kill people on my list. 'course the only thing I gots out of it is War, War, War, War, War. :P

Oooooooh were we talking about real life and not Sim life? Is Sim life not real life???? ha ha ha :P

sorry sunny like I said I didn't read it because this whole topic is retarded