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Solaris (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
08 Aug 2011 23:09Link
Rainy Days on GR:
Last Month Cash 1,507.31B SC$
Interest Received 0.00B SC$
Interest Paid 0.00B SC$
Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$
New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$
Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$
New Loans Given 0.00B SC$
Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -66.93B SC$
Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$
Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$
Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -240.00B SC$
Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 163.92B SC$
Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$
Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$
Cash Exchanged for Gold Coi
Last Month Cash 1,507.31B SC$
Interest Received 0.00B SC$
Interest Paid 0.00B SC$
Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$
New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$
Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$
New Loans Given 0.00B SC$
Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -66.93B SC$
Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$
Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$
Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -240.00B SC$
Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 163.92B SC$
Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$
Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$
Cash Exchanged for Gold Coi
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Crafty (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 01:07Link
Spark -
Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -240.00B SC$
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -39.54B SC$
Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 99.78B SC$
totals = -179.76B
Last Month Cash 2,855.43B SC$
less
Cash Available 2,675.67B SC$
totals = -179.76B
Hence it would appear that the problem doesn't really exist, only that you are transferring a lot of money to your corps. Maybe you have profit transfer too high? A lot of corps there are still young and spending cash on upgrades.
Hope that puts you in the right direction.
Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -240.00B SC$
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -39.54B SC$
Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 99.78B SC$
totals = -179.76B
Last Month Cash 2,855.43B SC$
less
Cash Available 2,675.67B SC$
totals = -179.76B
Hence it would appear that the problem doesn't really exist, only that you are transferring a lot of money to your corps. Maybe you have profit transfer too high? A lot of corps there are still young and spending cash on upgrades.
Hope that puts you in the right direction.
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Crafty (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 01:11Link
I just checked, the same maths applies to your other two enterprises as well.
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Solaris (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 09:42Link
I'm not convinced there is no problem.
Global Ventures, after profit transfer had been reduced from 80% to 50%:
Last Month Cash 4,080.04B SC$
Interest Received 0.00B SC$
Interest Paid 0.00B SC$
Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$
New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$
Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$
New Loans Given 0.00B SC$
Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -35.36B SC$
Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$
Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$
Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -250.00B SC$
Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 0.17B SC$
Bonuse
Global Ventures, after profit transfer had been reduced from 80% to 50%:
Last Month Cash 4,080.04B SC$
Interest Received 0.00B SC$
Interest Paid 0.00B SC$
Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$
New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$
Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$
New Loans Given 0.00B SC$
Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -35.36B SC$
Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$
Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$
Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -250.00B SC$
Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 0.17B SC$
Bonuse
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 17:02Link
Flashes... Solaris, Flashes only.
I'm sure you were someone we all recognize, before you were Solaris. This much I am confident in.
I'm sure you were someone we all recognize, before you were Solaris. This much I am confident in.
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Solaris (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 17:16Link
Rainy Days on GR:
Last Month Cash 1,223.99B SC$
Interest Received 0.00B SC$
Interest Paid 0.00B SC$
Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$
New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$
Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$
New Loans Given 0.00B SC$
Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -104.23B SC$
Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$
Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$
Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -195.00B SC$
Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 195.71B SC$
Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$
Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$
Cash Exchanged for Gold Co
Last Month Cash 1,223.99B SC$
Interest Received 0.00B SC$
Interest Paid 0.00B SC$
Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$
New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$
Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$
New Loans Given 0.00B SC$
Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -104.23B SC$
Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$
Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$
Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$
Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -195.00B SC$
Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 195.71B SC$
Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$
Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$
Cash Exchanged for Gold Co
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Solaris (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 17:20Link
Wendy, I have played SC before.
I doubt I am "someone we all recognise".
I doubt I am "someone we all recognise".
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 18:00Link
<!-Quote-!>Quote:Wendy, I have played SC before. <!-/Quote-!>
Duh, my point exactly
My memory is unparalleled, uncannily photographic is more like it. I'm not sure why. It could be because I haven't been at any college parties in years and I don't get contact highs anymore. Everyone may not recognize you, but I probably would lol.
You "think" we all wouldn't recognize
My wise father always told me, "Thinking comes from not "knowing"
Well I know you aren't American, LuLz
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 18:44Link
<!-Quote-!>Quote:Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -221.14B SC$ <!-/Quote-!>
Why is there not a histogram for this value.
I have a very strong suspicion that this is a possible cause of cash drain on CEOs across the board. Maybe not the only source, or everyone's source but for sure a problem.
The absence of a histogram only adds to the suspicion.
I have a number usually in the 200b+ range every month.
I have not bought closed or moved any corporations for as far as my eyes could see.
Is this ONLY my enterprise Tax showing up? If so what is the percentage of tax, where can be found if at all in the documentation(old or ne
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Psycho_Honey (Golden Rainbow)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 18:52Link
Also it appears that when you fill certain supplies for corps to 60 months supplies @100 quality, the quality seems to jump back to around the default value for all corp supplies when it reaches back down to 20 months. I don't know how this is the case or how it is accomplished but I doubt my supplies are increasing in quality like that without some hidden charge to justify the change. I have noted this several times. I will try and note it again and post whatever information possible.
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Lorelei
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 19:20Link
Hey Wendyloo,
Solaris used to be known as Kiteless. He was a member of mine, bobo and blue's fed for a while several years back when we were Nueva Vida. He is a brit brat lol I've always known him to be nice, however, I did raise an eyebrow recently when he jumped in on an argument I was having one day with Josias, which was a question if I still thought you were Wild. Never knew him to be confrontational before, so it threw me off guard. Funny how quickly that spread around...... but YOU got that I was speaking hypothetically and not literally....... meaning, do we really know who anyone is.
I have heard through the grapevine that Klar is back in the game somewhere. Then again, who is Klarina? I've given up trying to figure out who is who. The two certainties I have in this game are who I am and who Blue is. lol
Solaris used to be known as Kiteless. He was a member of mine, bobo and blue's fed for a while several years back when we were Nueva Vida. He is a brit brat lol I've always known him to be nice, however, I did raise an eyebrow recently when he jumped in on an argument I was having one day with Josias, which was a question if I still thought you were Wild. Never knew him to be confrontational before, so it threw me off guard. Funny how quickly that spread around...... but YOU got that I was speaking hypothetically and not literally....... meaning, do we really know who anyone is.
I have heard through the grapevine that Klar is back in the game somewhere. Then again, who is Klarina? I've given up trying to figure out who is who. The two certainties I have in this game are who I am and who Blue is. lol
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Solaris (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 19:21Link
Wendy, the only contact we have previously shared is when you made the mistake of thinking I was someone else. I have an excellent memory as I shall demonstrate below.
"Thinking comes from not knowing".
I'm not Klarina... or Steeleknife
Notice how CC called me "Kite" earlier in this thread?
Having said all of that, you raise some good points about enterprise tax.
"Thinking comes from not knowing".
I'm not Klarina... or Steeleknife
Notice how CC called me "Kite" earlier in this thread?
Having said all of that, you raise some good points about enterprise tax.
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Solaris (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 19:23Link
Jan, sorry about that. I must have been in a bad mood.
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Lorelei
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 19:26Link
It's okay. It's not like I dun have those days. ha ha ha ha :S
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 20:15Link
I've concluded that Solaris, given his defense mode when asked if he/she maybe is someone else, is Klarina, SteeleKnife, and Wildeye's....
no denying it now Lol!
no denying it now Lol!
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 20:17Link
and for the record, it has always been my position that Akasha was simply Wildeyes in disguise. You know build an account, then absorb it when it grows to be worth something. A shot in the dark.
Anyways I blame the whole derailment of this thread on SolarSteelEyEs
Anyways I blame the whole derailment of this thread on SolarSteelEyEs
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Crafty (Fearless Blue)
All worlds
09 Aug 2011 20:24Link
I still think you need to look at why you are transferring so much cash to corps. Your actual sales figures seem ok, are they? you say a lot isnt selling. You could try maximizing corp cash and then you should have no transfers going on for some months even if they all sell zip. Publics shouldnt effect this because I'm pretty sure the Ent doesnt transfer any cash to them regardless.
I'm not saying it is the case, but in the past I have found that the GM doesn't respond to concerns which are actually misinterpretations of the figures or us doing something wrong. Ask them a direct question of how something works and you'll normally get an answer.
I'm not saying it is the case, but in the past I have found that the GM doesn't respond to concerns which are actually misinterpretations of the figures or us doing something wrong. Ask them a direct question of how something works and you'll normally get an answer.
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Solaris (Kebir Blue)
All worlds
10 Aug 2011 09:29Link
I'd rather look for something else to play and then close all of my countries and enterprises. Something isn't right and I lack the inclination to find out why.
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CorporatePartner (White Giant)
All worlds
10 Aug 2011 12:38Link
<!-Quote-!>Quote:Tom Willard
Friday, August 5, 2011 - 08:31 am
...the cost of upgrades goes off the cash, not influencing the profit.<!-/Quote-!>
So, "upgrade costs" alone could account for enterprise net cash (losses) of anywhere from -600B to -1T SC$ per [earth] day, for 4 or 6 'spin' worlds, respectively, even when a large enterprise (500 corporations) is reporting "net profits".
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Crafty
All worlds
10 Aug 2011 18:42Link
Sorry Kiteless, but that attitude is typical of you last time. Work it out dude, I have shown you ways, corporate partner just made a very valid point, don't sulk man, get in there and sort it.
Always here to help...Crafty.
Always here to help...Crafty.
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)
All worlds
10 Aug 2011 18:51Link
WHERE ARE THE WILLARDS!!!!
And so it is... that Solaris is Kiteless/SteeleKnife <------ a name we could all recognize lol.
And so it is... that Solaris is Kiteless/SteeleKnife <------ a name we could all recognize lol.
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Solaris
All worlds
10 Aug 2011 19:22Link
I have cut profit transfer to zero... more out of curiosity than anything else.
And yes, that is a valid point about upgrade costs.
And yes, that is a valid point about upgrade costs.
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Laguna
All worlds
10 Aug 2011 22:56Link
I wish my loser corps would just close down, instead of sucking my tits dry. I really don't have that much patience to close 70 corps one by one in 10 enterprises.
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Crafty (Fearless Blue)
All worlds
10 Aug 2011 23:41Link
+1 LG
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Quetzalcoatl (Fearless Blue)
All worlds
10 Aug 2011 23:45Link
Really i am not losing as much as all of you and my enterprises are now making money and giving me cash, my enterprise on 75B, but thanks to my dividends i have a good amount comming in, i guess if you ipo more than 3\4 of them you will see less profit transfers. That is why I try to IPO all corporations.