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SaintAugustine (Little Upsilon)
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05 Jan 2010 17:11Link
The Problem of Evil
How Can A Good God Allow Evil?
The Problem of Evil - Introduction
John Stott has said that "the fact of suffering undoubtedly constitutes the single greatest challenge to the Christian faith." It is unquestionably true that there is no greater obstacle to faith than that of the reality of evil and suffering in the world. Indeed, even for the believing Christian, there is no greater test of faith than this--that the God who loves him permits him to suffer, at times in excruciating ways. And the disillusionment is intensified in our day when unrealistic expectations of health and prosperity are fed by the teachings of a multitude of Christian teachers. Why does a good God allow his creatures, and even his children to suffer?
First, it's important to distinguish between two kinds of evil: moral evil and natural evil. Moral evil results from the actions of free creatures. Murder, rape and theft are
How Can A Good God Allow Evil?
The Problem of Evil - Introduction
John Stott has said that "the fact of suffering undoubtedly constitutes the single greatest challenge to the Christian faith." It is unquestionably true that there is no greater obstacle to faith than that of the reality of evil and suffering in the world. Indeed, even for the believing Christian, there is no greater test of faith than this--that the God who loves him permits him to suffer, at times in excruciating ways. And the disillusionment is intensified in our day when unrealistic expectations of health and prosperity are fed by the teachings of a multitude of Christian teachers. Why does a good God allow his creatures, and even his children to suffer?
First, it's important to distinguish between two kinds of evil: moral evil and natural evil. Moral evil results from the actions of free creatures. Murder, rape and theft are
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SaintAugustine (Little Upsilon)
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05 Jan 2010 17:13Link
The Grand Fonality of Religeous Doctern
Reading the comments on my previous post, it appears that some people are in doubt as to how the Bible says one should treat their own children. One commenter "highly doubt[s] God would condone murdering a 19 month old baby for not saying AMEN" and that I should reread the Bible, praying before and after every single passage. Someone else complained about verses being taken "out of context" and a third just said that she doesn't "live by Old Testament ways," despite Jesus's firm command to the contrary.
One of the many cultural myths with which I would like to do away is the notion that the Bible is somehow a sturdy moral foundation for our lives, particularly where families are concerned. To that end, I have compiled ten of the meatiest verses from both Hebrew and Christian Testament on the treatment of child and family. Of course, as these are the rules of a
Reading the comments on my previous post, it appears that some people are in doubt as to how the Bible says one should treat their own children. One commenter "highly doubt[s] God would condone murdering a 19 month old baby for not saying AMEN" and that I should reread the Bible, praying before and after every single passage. Someone else complained about verses being taken "out of context" and a third just said that she doesn't "live by Old Testament ways," despite Jesus's firm command to the contrary.
One of the many cultural myths with which I would like to do away is the notion that the Bible is somehow a sturdy moral foundation for our lives, particularly where families are concerned. To that end, I have compiled ten of the meatiest verses from both Hebrew and Christian Testament on the treatment of child and family. Of course, as these are the rules of a
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SaintAugustine (Little Upsilon)
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05 Jan 2010 17:15Link
Words From The Holy Cambers
From, SaintAugustine
Seems like their Allot of hate in world Hmm, would Christ write what is wrote here, member love thy neighbor, Or Is that to liberal an securer to do, Do u want me to rewrite the bible like King Jame's did an to your name on it for u, An to take out all to loving an add condemnation to it an only your an make it where only For your White Angelical Heterosexuel Christian Conservative Fundamentalism Right Wing Conservative Neo Fascist Republican Male's sin's are forgiven while u go an recomment your Sin's again an again for rest of your life, tell me i do have the power of the pin" an u will go heaven with Hitler cause god forgives u john 3:16 an love's u remember he had pity on sick an poor an dueled among the sinners only for his company, not in the company of the righteous, who keep god close to their heart's now Christ would be liberal secular agitator wouldn't
From, SaintAugustine
Seems like their Allot of hate in world Hmm, would Christ write what is wrote here, member love thy neighbor, Or Is that to liberal an securer to do, Do u want me to rewrite the bible like King Jame's did an to your name on it for u, An to take out all to loving an add condemnation to it an only your an make it where only For your White Angelical Heterosexuel Christian Conservative Fundamentalism Right Wing Conservative Neo Fascist Republican Male's sin's are forgiven while u go an recomment your Sin's again an again for rest of your life, tell me i do have the power of the pin" an u will go heaven with Hitler cause god forgives u john 3:16 an love's u remember he had pity on sick an poor an dueled among the sinners only for his company, not in the company of the righteous, who keep god close to their heart's now Christ would be liberal secular agitator wouldn't
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King Yahuchtka (Golden Rainbow)
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05 Jan 2010 22:35Link
Gold Coal what ever your name is, you do have a freedom of speach, what do you don't have is to jump and ATTACK other faiths and other opionons. What you said here, you don't have a right to say. "Jesus scum" and "Fuck your sister jesus would like it" or something immature like that. I feel you are a lost soul and will stay that way. Hey, SOMEONE has to go to hell. (Lol normally wouldnt say that...but u deserve it :D) and its funny, you stop your bitching and ranting/insulting when I bring out atheiest and ask to explain.
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meow69 (Little Upsilon)
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06 Jan 2010 01:53Link
"also too,this is only for simcountry talks,not some god damn christian religion talk between good and evil.so if you dont like what i said against all you holy crap talks,then stop it."
you also have the right to not read them if you don't like religious conversations. then heres a simple solution don't read them. or start your own thread praising atheism.
you also have the right to not read them if you don't like religious conversations. then heres a simple solution don't read them. or start your own thread praising atheism.
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King Yahuchtka (Golden Rainbow)
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06 Jan 2010 02:01Link
Exsacly, thank you meow I was about to say that
you don't have to post here, all you gotta do is scroll your little ass down and be done with it before it even starts (:
you don't have to post here, all you gotta do is scroll your little ass down and be done with it before it even starts (: M
meow69 (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
06 Jan 2010 02:02Link
and for those that blame religion for all the worlds evil.
I was raised in an offically atheist soceity the USSR. and guess what. the USSR is responible for more murders and crimes then any country in history. so please explain to me how religion is responsible for the cold war, the purges and the enslavment of eastern europe. if religion is responable I fail to see how.
I was raised in an offically atheist soceity the USSR. and guess what. the USSR is responible for more murders and crimes then any country in history. so please explain to me how religion is responsible for the cold war, the purges and the enslavment of eastern europe. if religion is responable I fail to see how.
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King Yahuchtka (Golden Rainbow)
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06 Jan 2010 02:08Link
Remind them that the USSR is basicly atheist. So that right there(among many other examples) shoots down half of their comments lol.
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meow69 (Little Upsilon)
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06 Jan 2010 02:15Link
I served in the russian army for three years in first chechen war. after that I moved to the us and got my citizenship. I have served in the US army every since. so trust me I know religious wars. most of them are just excuses for evil men to do evil. and as the USSR example proves there are evil atheists as well.
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SaintAugustine (Little Upsilon)
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06 Jan 2010 04:53Link
Words From The Holy Cambers
From, SaintAugustine
Seems like their Allot of hate in world Hmm, would Christ write what is wrote here, member love thy neighbor, Or Is that to liberal an securer to do, Do u want me to rewrite the bible like King Jame's did an to your name on it for u, An to take out all to loving an add condemnation to it an only your an make it where only For your White Angelical Heterosexuel Christian Conservative Fundamentalism Right Wing Conservative Neo Fascist Republican Male's sin's are forgiven while u go an recomment your Sin's again an again for rest of your life, tell me i do have the power of the pin" an u will go heaven with Hitler cause god forgives u john 3:16 an love's u remember he had pity on sick an poor an dueled among the sinners only for his company, not in the company of the righteous, who keep god close to their heart's now Christ would be liberal secular agitator wouldn't u
From, SaintAugustine
Seems like their Allot of hate in world Hmm, would Christ write what is wrote here, member love thy neighbor, Or Is that to liberal an securer to do, Do u want me to rewrite the bible like King Jame's did an to your name on it for u, An to take out all to loving an add condemnation to it an only your an make it where only For your White Angelical Heterosexuel Christian Conservative Fundamentalism Right Wing Conservative Neo Fascist Republican Male's sin's are forgiven while u go an recomment your Sin's again an again for rest of your life, tell me i do have the power of the pin" an u will go heaven with Hitler cause god forgives u john 3:16 an love's u remember he had pity on sick an poor an dueled among the sinners only for his company, not in the company of the righteous, who keep god close to their heart's now Christ would be liberal secular agitator wouldn't u
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Gold & Coal Miner
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06 Jan 2010 10:44Link
blah,blah,blah!!!!i'm not hearing or seeing any thing about jesus christ.i am a lost soul and i prefer stay that way and i dont want nothing to do with jesus or any thing that he says and shall not command me at all.i hate life becasue of what i been through so jesus christ did not fix my issues and my physical problems i got so dont try.i am not the only that have been hurt.i am glad some one can see my anger ill give credit for that.but i will not forgive people for hurting me and i will not forget.so sorry folks but that is the way it is.but thank you for trying.
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Nemesis Caesar (Little Upsilon)
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06 Jan 2010 11:59Link
Gold & Coal Miner,
It's Good That U realize faith religion is not your answer, but to look to your self, an what u say don't need Organized Religion fix your problems or the need of Scapegoating which is u take personal Responsibility of your action is the way to go, Scapegoating is the definition is 1 : a goat upon whose head are symbolically placed the sins of the people after which he is sent into the wilderness in the biblical ceremony for Yom Kippur
2 a : one that bears the blame for others b : one that is the object of irrational hostility your great role model for that, others should follow no needs god or make believe deity to have full life,
The Goal of Scapegoating
Scapegoating has been used by human communities to restore harmony and achieve peace since the beginning of civilization. The problem with scapegoating is not the result � peace is a
It's Good That U realize faith religion is not your answer, but to look to your self, an what u say don't need Organized Religion fix your problems or the need of Scapegoating which is u take personal Responsibility of your action is the way to go, Scapegoating is the definition is 1 : a goat upon whose head are symbolically placed the sins of the people after which he is sent into the wilderness in the biblical ceremony for Yom Kippur
2 a : one that bears the blame for others b : one that is the object of irrational hostility your great role model for that, others should follow no needs god or make believe deity to have full life,
The Goal of Scapegoating
Scapegoating has been used by human communities to restore harmony and achieve peace since the beginning of civilization. The problem with scapegoating is not the result � peace is a
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Nemesis Caesar (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
06 Jan 2010 12:07Link
Gold & Coal Miner,
I lost soul i guide u to light
From,
Nemesis Caesar
I lost soul i guide u to light
From,
Nemesis Caesar
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Nemesis Caesar (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
06 Jan 2010 12:15Link
It's Good That U realize faith religion is not your answer, but to look to your self, an what u just said is don't need Organized Religion or faith to fix your problems or the need of Scapegoating which takes away your personal Responsibility an your will take on your action own is the way to go, an other should follow your example as u an i an other atheist as us
Scapegoating is the definition is
1: is a goat upon whose head are symbolically placed the sins of the people after which he is sent into the wilderness in the biblical ceremony for Yom Kippur
2: one that bears the blame for others b : one that is the object of irrational hostility your great role model for that, others should follow no needs god or make believe deity to have full life,
The Goal of Scapegoating
Scapegoating has been used by human communities to restore harmony and achieve peace since the beginning of civilization. The prob
Scapegoating is the definition is
1: is a goat upon whose head are symbolically placed the sins of the people after which he is sent into the wilderness in the biblical ceremony for Yom Kippur
2: one that bears the blame for others b : one that is the object of irrational hostility your great role model for that, others should follow no needs god or make believe deity to have full life,
The Goal of Scapegoating
Scapegoating has been used by human communities to restore harmony and achieve peace since the beginning of civilization. The prob
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Gold & Coal Miner (Little Upsilon)
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06 Jan 2010 14:31Link
DUBLIN (AFP) - Ireland's Catholic Church apologised Thursday after a damning new report showed it covered up child sex abuse over more than three decades.
The Irish government also said sorry for failing to protect children in the wake of the latest report, published six months after a first landmark study revealed widespread abuse of children in Catholic care.
"I offer to each and every survivor my apology, my sorrow and my shame for what happened," said Diarmuid Martin, archbishop of Dublin since 2004.
"I am aware that no words of apology will ever be sufficient," he said, adding that "the fact that many abusers were priests constituted both an offence to God and an affront to the priesthood."
The country's most senior Catholic, Cardinal Sean Brady, echoed the comments, saying "I want to apologise to all those who have been hurt and their families."
Following a three-year
The Irish government also said sorry for failing to protect children in the wake of the latest report, published six months after a first landmark study revealed widespread abuse of children in Catholic care.
"I offer to each and every survivor my apology, my sorrow and my shame for what happened," said Diarmuid Martin, archbishop of Dublin since 2004.
"I am aware that no words of apology will ever be sufficient," he said, adding that "the fact that many abusers were priests constituted both an offence to God and an affront to the priesthood."
The country's most senior Catholic, Cardinal Sean Brady, echoed the comments, saying "I want to apologise to all those who have been hurt and their families."
Following a three-year
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Gold & Coal Miner (Little Upsilon)
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06 Jan 2010 14:34Link
A Catholic brother is accused of a 1980s sex attack on a teenager he was counselling after the youth had been molested by another man, a court has been told.
After the alleged incident, the boys' parents were told William Stanley Irwin would not work with youngsters again, but he subsequently became a dormitory master at St Stanislaus College in Bathurst and a teacher at St Aloysius College in Sydney, the court heard.
Irwin, 54, of Pyrmont in inner Sydney, appeared in Sydney's Downing Centre Local court on Tuesday, charged with two counts of gross indecency on a male under the age of 18 in the mid-1980s.
After Irwin's arrest last week, he was stood down from his current teaching job at St Aloysius College at Milsons Point, on Sydney's lower north shore, a day school for boys run by the Jesuits, the court was told.
Irwin is the 10th man to be charged following an investigation by Strike Force Bell into claims o
After the alleged incident, the boys' parents were told William Stanley Irwin would not work with youngsters again, but he subsequently became a dormitory master at St Stanislaus College in Bathurst and a teacher at St Aloysius College in Sydney, the court heard.
Irwin, 54, of Pyrmont in inner Sydney, appeared in Sydney's Downing Centre Local court on Tuesday, charged with two counts of gross indecency on a male under the age of 18 in the mid-1980s.
After Irwin's arrest last week, he was stood down from his current teaching job at St Aloysius College at Milsons Point, on Sydney's lower north shore, a day school for boys run by the Jesuits, the court was told.
Irwin is the 10th man to be charged following an investigation by Strike Force Bell into claims o
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meow69 (Little Upsilon)
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06 Jan 2010 15:11Link
Nobody on here asked you to join. its called free will and yes christians sin. there are evil people in every group and the cathlic church is no exeption. to me the whole practice of celebacy for prests is wrong. no where in the bible does it say that anyone has to be celebent.
in fact gods first commandment was be fruitful and multiply. you get a bunch of people together that are repressing there natural instincts then it will happen. what pisses me off is them not reporting it. that however was a political decision. not gods answer. the bible calls what happened to those kids an abomination. me personnally I am a russian jew so if anyone has a reason to dislike christions it is me. yet I don't. most christions I know here in the us are good people and respect me as a person and a jew.
I am in the us army we have people of all races and religions. yet we manage to get along and work together. that is because of respect you do not have to agree
in fact gods first commandment was be fruitful and multiply. you get a bunch of people together that are repressing there natural instincts then it will happen. what pisses me off is them not reporting it. that however was a political decision. not gods answer. the bible calls what happened to those kids an abomination. me personnally I am a russian jew so if anyone has a reason to dislike christions it is me. yet I don't. most christions I know here in the us are good people and respect me as a person and a jew.
I am in the us army we have people of all races and religions. yet we manage to get along and work together. that is because of respect you do not have to agree
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SaintAugustine (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
06 Jan 2010 16:28Link
your snake, Slivering on all issues your what some would call Liberal Religious bias patsy that approves Scapegoating, i say as i wish, to u but some of us will bare our on cross an take our on personal Responsibility if we slip or comment murder or a wrongful act to humanity an not seeking eternal life over it all,
From SaintAugustine
From SaintAugustine
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Laguna
All worlds
06 Jan 2010 16:31Link
Why does a poet zoom beneath this arcane indent? Why can't tomatoes draw the penny? The axiom straws the island in the straight author. Bananas rest upon tomatoes throughout each starred medium.
Too u too, SantAwgastine.
Too u too, SantAwgastine.
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SaintAugustine (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
06 Jan 2010 16:47Link
It's Good That Gold & Coal Miner That U realize faith religion is not your answer, but to look to your self, an what u just said is don't need Organized Religion or faith to fix your problems or the need of Scapegoating which takes away your personal Responsibility an your will take on your action own is the way to go, an other should follow your example as u an i an other atheist as us
Scapegoating is the definition is
1: is a goat upon whose head are symbolically placed the sins of the people after which he is sent into the wilderness in the biblical ceremony for Yom Kippur
2: one that bears the blame for others b : one that is the object of irrational hostility your great role model for that, others should follow no needs god or make believe deity to have full life,
The Goal of Scapegoating
Scapegoating has been used by human communities to restore harmony and achieve peace since the beginning
Scapegoating is the definition is
1: is a goat upon whose head are symbolically placed the sins of the people after which he is sent into the wilderness in the biblical ceremony for Yom Kippur
2: one that bears the blame for others b : one that is the object of irrational hostility your great role model for that, others should follow no needs god or make believe deity to have full life,
The Goal of Scapegoating
Scapegoating has been used by human communities to restore harmony and achieve peace since the beginning
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SaintAugustine (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
06 Jan 2010 16:52Link
An it makes u believe, In fairy Tales fables story telling an unreasonable logic, Like the storys when we where all childern we believe that is was so it was passed on by word of mouth an what other told us about them,
An to u Meow69,
Your snake, I say. Something This Every Morning inyour Jewish prayer, As I Quote, Its says, for all males To Thank god I'm not woman or gentile , Slivering on all issues your what some would call Liberal Religious bias patsy that approves Scapegoating, i say as i wish, to u but some of us will bare our on cross an take our on personal Responsibility if we slip or comment murder or a wrongful act to humanity an not WE Are not seeking eternal life over it all,
For all to know About the Jewish Daily Prayer Here Goes this shows u all organized religion is evil hateful an Alot ugly elements, here goes
Jews daily thank God th
An to u Meow69,
Your snake, I say. Something This Every Morning inyour Jewish prayer, As I Quote, Its says, for all males To Thank god I'm not woman or gentile , Slivering on all issues your what some would call Liberal Religious bias patsy that approves Scapegoating, i say as i wish, to u but some of us will bare our on cross an take our on personal Responsibility if we slip or comment murder or a wrongful act to humanity an not WE Are not seeking eternal life over it all,
For all to know About the Jewish Daily Prayer Here Goes this shows u all organized religion is evil hateful an Alot ugly elements, here goes
Jews daily thank God th
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King Yahuchtka
All worlds
06 Jan 2010 22:45Link
SaintA. I'm sorry but I don't read your posts they are way too long lol and the first few senteces make no sence :\ sorry I am sure they are nice to read thou!
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SaintAugustine (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
07 Jan 2010 00:08Link
Religion an Faith makes u believe, In fairy Tales fables story telling an unreasonable logic, Like the Stories when we where all children we believe that is was so it was passed on by word of mouth an what other told us about them,
An to u Meow69,
Your snake, I say. U Say Something This Like This Every Morning in your Jewish prayer, As I Quote, Its says, for all males To Thank god that your not woman or gentile ,U Slivering on all issues your what some would call Liberal Religious bias patsy that approves Scapegoating, I say, an i will say as i wish, To all of u on Religion an Faith that some of us like logical human beings as like i an Atheist will bare our on cross an take our on personal Responsibility if we slip or comment murder or a wrongful act to humanity an not WE Are not seeking eternal life over it all,
For all to know About the Jewish Daily Prayer Here Goes this shows u all organized religion is evil ha
An to u Meow69,
Your snake, I say. U Say Something This Like This Every Morning in your Jewish prayer, As I Quote, Its says, for all males To Thank god that your not woman or gentile ,U Slivering on all issues your what some would call Liberal Religious bias patsy that approves Scapegoating, I say, an i will say as i wish, To all of u on Religion an Faith that some of us like logical human beings as like i an Atheist will bare our on cross an take our on personal Responsibility if we slip or comment murder or a wrongful act to humanity an not WE Are not seeking eternal life over it all,
For all to know About the Jewish Daily Prayer Here Goes this shows u all organized religion is evil ha
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Laguna
All worlds
07 Jan 2010 00:22Link
Me cups you. You coughs with a muttering rod. Will a unavoidable pan understand the researcher? You pains the positioning appearance. You chambers the constant. You bobs an interpreter above the aggressive liquid.
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Inanna
All worlds
07 Jan 2010 00:32Link
bobs . . . LOL!