Laughable Accusation

lt's unrealistic for a country to have more forts than corps, or more forts than counties, cities, and towns combined. I completely doubt that anyone who advocates unlimited forts has ever killed 500+ forts plus 500+ other targets in a single war. That clicking marathon is mind-numbing, soul-crushing, and only simulates the acquisition of carpel tunnel syndrome.

That asinine experience doesn't belong in a strategy game.

Players who want to avoid war can use secure mode, war protection boosters, or stay in low war levels. Those are already too many gimmicks, and they make the vast majority of countries unattackable.

@TheInventor: This game does need another thing to help kill the war game. It's already dead or on life support. Can you name a time that a large experienced player decided to try to take out a small inexperienced player? Go ahead, I'll wait for you to find one. Your reasoning for this cheat simply doesn't exist in the game.

@Vespasian: Let me know before you leave. Maybe the Roman Empire and the Nevrondona Empire will battle it out one last time. It may be death of both Empires.

been looking for evidence to say this fort issue is a so called cheat or exploit as certain players named it so

we found this, game news posted by the gamemasters dated 22nd oct 2014


it plainly states

Military Bases, military airports and fortifications [ top ]
The number of military bases in a country used to depend on the numbers of weapons and military units.
The rules became confusing when players started trading in military bases and were limited in their trading policies by the size of their own army.
We have now simplified the system and removed the dependency on the size of the army.
A country can order a max number of 100 military bases or military airports of each type. When the number is reached, manual orders for military bases and airports will be prohibited.
However, corporations that contract such bases and military airports or fortifications to the country will be able to do so without any limitations.


now I interept that as a natural legal feature of the game and a normal feature of the game introduced by the gamemasters and not an exploit to have move than 150 forts

if players dont make use of normal features of the game


wat ever..............open your EYES

I'm tired now

@Wildstallion and Psycho Honey. BooHOO was very aware that Jan was playing multis against me. How do I know? The LEADER country for each of her accounts was in his Fed. I spotted it immediately. If I could spot it so quickly, how could Mr. Eye Dumb miss it? You can't have 2 leader countries in your account. Of course Mr. Chitwoo knew. As for the forts being a game quirk, everyone knows it is not a quirk but an actual change by the GM. I immediately objected to it when I found out about it and have been doing so for at least 2, maybe 3 years. Unfortunately, the GM refuses to reverse course. I knew it would end up coming to this.

I completely agree with Roving EYE this is not at all an exploit and is obviously designed to allow for unlimited forts. Additionally there is no reason why there should not be unlimited forts. Realistically there is no limit on how many forts a country can have it just simply cost more to maintain them and they require more soldiers and officers to manage them.

The war button was meant to be pressed. I used it. The cries went up, and the changes came down. This is no different.

Are you claiming this is an unrealistic aspect of the game?
Or are you claiming this is an exploit?

Regardless both of your claims have already been solidly disproved in this thread. Therefore this is not an exploit and there is no sudden limit on the number of forts a real life country can have.

Inventor, don't you have some revisions to make or something?

Do you not understand I simply stated that it has been disproved that "having unlimited forts is unrealistic and that it is a exploit."

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"having unlimited forts is unrealistic and that it is a(n) exploit." ~inventor

Grade:B- (slight errors corrected) Well Done!<!-/Quote-!>

Wow... Wow... Well stated my young friend. I couldn't have said it better. I'm glad we can agree on something.

@inventor the only way to get forts above 150 was to contract them to the country from a corporation. The 1000 forts could not be outright purchased and no country was intended to have such a large count. This was a loophole that has since been closed. Technically it was an exploit of a unintended loophole.
I don't want complete realism if it means millions more PBs and thousands more clicks. Imagine if there were 50 air d wings to destroy too. My mouse would probably break.

I personally don't see the issue. If a player is dumb enough to have a few thousand forts that's their problem. Instead of using their assets to destroy the enemy they simply want to slow them down.

Yes I'd personally rather face a few thousand d wings and mobiles but hey that's just me. If a player invests their defense costs in forts so be it. Won't stop someone who is determined enough.

That is however dependent on what is gained. If the player has a smaller country with a thousand forts that doesn't have the defensive assets in the first place to defend I wouldn't go through the trouble, but if they have a large country and are desperate to defend it and/or their existence threatens me I'll attack the forts anyway. Even if it means losing more than I want.

I think having a thousand forts is a cowardly way of defending, but it is a free world. Dictators can do as they please.

The only way I'd see this as acceptable, is if a much smaller player or player with around 1/10th of the military the other has is attacked, or bullied. I haven't seen any situations like that recently. There is no point in attacking someone with 1/10th of what you have unless they provoke you.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!!!!!! I'm a multi player????!!! What has Jan done now? lol I've changed names often, but never been the owner of multi accounts. I dun even know how to play one account, much less many. ha ha ha ha Besides, I dun think you could stand more than 1 of me. lol

I think I'm more accurately a "multi" non-player. ha ha ha ha

ANDREWWWWWWWWWWWW! JONNI!!!! I'm being framed for a game crime!!!!! Gawd, I'm such a game outlaw! I looooooooooooove it!

Will someone stick a shoe in the mouth of Miss Multi?

I'll do it for you Emperor.

Thank you.

UT OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have newfound enemies!!!

*Begins to read my spell book in regards to Emperor and SeizeForce!!!

Expect bad things to come your way,
you fiendish slime of Sim play!
May earthquakes in your countries strike all around
May financial ruin vastly abound.

And if that is NOT enough,
May your way through the game be especially rough!
You have made a mighty enemy in me, The Wicked Lady, and mother to gamemaster, Andy!

DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE, DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

*cackles evilly!

Hmm. Not a bad rhyme.

I decided to sit and read this thread, and to respond in all seriousness. I am not sure why my persona of many, many years ago is coming up and my name, Jan, as these so called "newer" players would not know me by my name.

I am not particularly concerned, though, because I have not played this game in years. I occasionally pop in to say hello, read what goes on in a game I used to play and liked very much and to say hi to those that I liked.

I am very amused that I apparently had such an impact that I'm supposedly playing a game that I haven't played in years. Now you have to admit, THAT is funny. lol

Anyways, I wish you well in your game endeavors. I've been a long time member of the community, and I'm sure my beloved child, Andrew, and Jonni would KNOW if I were playing multi accounts. Besides, all the game vets here know the extent of my "expertise" in the game. lol

I did get a chuckle out of this. I always loved the game drama!

Thank you, Vespasian. I thought it a fine rhyme, myself. :P I have, though, put a "hit" out for you in the game. So guard your counties well!!!! I may not play, but I KNOW people!!!! ha ha ha ha ha

You can say what you want, but you were the Multi player. Personally I don't care. The important thing is the GM acted in June and banned the account that was being played against me.In fact, the only reason I produced my emails is because your friend HooHoo, made a completely false and hypocritical accusation against me, (which I easily disproved in this thread) all the while knowing he conspired with multi's against me. Pretty sad for a so called "great player".

I known some of the greatest players in this game were multi-players. Those were different times. I don't think it is an inherently bad thing to play multiple accounts back as the game was. Sure they helped but they also multiplied the risk. With war levels and the shenanigans that could be employed with new accounts under war-level, that balance is forever lost and multiplay should be a no tolerance zone.

I would like to see known offenders reduced to their account of least value as penalty to first offenses, and even subsequent occurrences. That would be a pretty steep penalty but would allow these players who love the game so much that they seek an advantage in it, to play on.

The truth is Vespasian, the greatest of players were multiple account holders. You can comb through the forums and find these stories. I am on your side as well because I I have gone through the exact same thing you described in your email to the gm. And... as fate would have it... In my case of multiplayer harassment, a player takes c3s around my countries on multiple planets too btw... This same exact player was doing this for likely the last 2 years I pleayed before I left. Now that I have come back, guess who? That same player is taking countries around my main on FB too. That player goes by the name of "D" I never cared to bring it up until this time. There's no point in going back and forth about this. Accusation, denial, retraction. Just leave it to the emails and the gms. They'll handle it.

Vespasian,

If you want to brand me a multi, so be it. lol Like I said, I don't play the game; therefore, I don't care. However, I think I rather like the attention that you give me. :-) It fits my "wicked" persona, which apparently will live on FOREVER! lol

Ya'll have fun now, ya hear! :P

@Psycho Honey. I appreciate your sentiment and moral support. However, you said:

"The truth is Vespasian, the greatest of players were multiple account holders."

I disagree. You can't say one is a great player if they play multi accounts and take advantage of it. If one succeeds as a multi player, that doesn't make them great, it only makes that player a Cheat.

Still this will go on for a while now, right now after looking at these posts and knowing what we KNOW! and rereading subtle messages it appears Vespasian wants war with us! IT has already called us its enemy and IT desires war....trouble is IT has nothing we want......unless of course IT wants TO TAKE it to the real world environment then the roving EYE group WILL BE HAPPY to deliver IT,s demise

Is this thread in code? The random CAPITALization throws me off.