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Hostile bidding

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caldari

All worlds
24 Apr 2013 08:18Link
I just did a hostile bid,but the thing is that i dont actually know what one is,and cant find it in documentation.
can anyone please enlighten me ?
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Crafty

All worlds
24 Apr 2013 17:14Link
It is hostile to bid to buy someone elses corp without them advertising it is for sale or you contacting them and asking first. This also applies to nationalising a CEOs corp that is in your country, again without permission or at least you giving some reason and advance notice.

It is not a good idea to do this, it really can annoy players and could even start a war.

Additionally, buying another players corp will normally cost you far more than it is worth so you lose out on the deal, unless it is being run really badly and you think you could do better.

Cool you asked though Caldari, good luck.
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Josias

All worlds
24 Apr 2013 19:04Link
additionally, their are many players that would prefer that you bought their corps. so if you are interested in one, go ahead and ask, theirs a good chance that you'll get a green light.

its just that the way bidding works, doesn't give the original owner, any option to keep their property, which means that you are effectively stealing from them. asking first, will eliminate any hard feelings.
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bigsatanloaf

All worlds
24 Apr 2013 22:42Link
What about using a CEO to purchase controlling shares in a public corporation (other than one controlled by one of your own countries)? My fear is a state/CEO may assume (w/o monitoring) that investment funds are purchasing the shares.

Recently I bought some cheap shares, thinking I'd re-sell in a couple weeks at a higher share price. But I inadvertently purchased a controlling stake. The corporation is in a country with a very high tax rate.

Is it appropriate to move the corporation to a lower tax country? This is definitely not "stealing" in the sense of hostile bidding, but it seems somewhat deceptive in the sense that understandably most of us don't monitor closely who buys shares after IPO's, and would be surprised for public corporations to disappear.

Should I just try to sell back enough shares so my CEO no longer controls it, even at a loss? Do nothing until I can at least break ev
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Crafty

All worlds
25 Apr 2013 19:45Link
Your state, now public, corp will still have the same taxes and profit transfer applied to it as before until control is lost to a CEO. It wont pay CRU until controlled by a CEO.

I think your question about public corps is interesting. It's got to come down to you and the previous owner and how you want to be about it. I would consider it hostile to take control like that, but of course mistakes can be made. The whole issue of hostile bidding is of course down to how you want to be in game. Josias makes a good point that most would be glad to sell a corp, but to do it hostilely will get someones back-up and politics and attitude are a very important part of the game. I speak a bit from the past though where there were means and ways of getting revenge, the modern game makes that far harder so the attitudes have changed and players act like asshats with impunity. Up to you mate, good relations I would recommend myself.
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Josias

All worlds
26 Apr 2013 01:57Link
i miss the debt bomb, to bad it was abused, it was cool to have a means to defend yourself from hostile bidding.
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Alex

All worlds
26 Apr 2013 02:48Link
I miss the ability to declare war on anyone for any reason
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LilTit

All worlds
26 Apr 2013 03:58Link
Hi Alex!

From,
Lorelei
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Josias

All worlds
26 Apr 2013 05:19Link
which makes me think, LG, or any one else, i'd be interested in complingly some sort of sim history, i think that we have enough to make it worth the effort. what would it take to wiki it?
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Alex

All worlds
26 Apr 2013 15:41Link
hey there liltit. nice name.
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Laguna

All worlds
27 Apr 2013 13:19Link
Just go to the Wiki and start writing.

Take this link and just write anything you want, random notes or a small text:
http://simcountry.wikia.com/wiki/History

Or create a subpage in your account, as so: http://simcountry.wikia.com/wiki/User:Laguna/Stuff

I should hurry, because I can't remember much of anything already.
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Roving EYE

All worlds
30 Apr 2013 01:10Link
caldari did bid on our company on FB, ive let em off and moved on!
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Jennifer

All worlds
01 May 2013 14:22Link
I've had a sneak take over one of my corps,Going to bide my time,when it's right going to Knock his Little pee-pee into the dirt and jump on it. Twice