Ok. Someone else laugh with me.

Are you people going to fight or just hug each other all year?

Back in my day people were destroyed before a thread hit 10 posts.

If I had my cane I would thrash you all soundly, drink your last beer, and sleep with your girlfriend.

I received hatemail from John Smith going on about that he is NOT OBAMA. LOL

Too late Johanas as the majority of us here have already drank your beer and slept with your girlfriend, so you can have her back now it's 2016

I however am the exception as I do not need to drink your beer or sleep with your girlfriend as I exist in a reality that you could only imagine exists. So lets see what happens in 2016, will it be hugs or will it be blows to all who get in my way.

From the Presidential Office of John West


I hereby publicly apologize to the leader of "Great Britian," John Smith, for [jokingly] accusing him as secretly being OBAMA. I understand this is the lowest of blows and it was uncalled for. I did not imagine myself in the receiving position and having been accused as being OBAMA is perhaps the absolute worst claim that one can levy against another. I hereby retract my statement suggesting that John Smith is in fact OBAMA and would again like to point out it was made in jest.

My military advisors have reminded me that we should perhaps not be so nonchalant about John Smith having a nuclear arsenal, as well my economic advisors remind me to keep in mind he is is a valuable customer of our nuclear products, and as such it would be also be in our economic interests to extend this apology openly for all the world to see, that I did not intend to come off as a "dick" as I

This was great lmfao

Right. So i'm supposed to be back round the 10th, but given the extent of this topic... think it's best to reply now.

This may take a while.

Will reply from the 30th Dec 2015 post.

Hello Zen. Lovely to see all that digging at one another in chat, you laughing it off, finally show its true colours. Took a while i must admit, but it seems i got under your skin from very early on.

In your first paragraph, you've pointlessly explained about your countries being out of WP. Well done. How is that of any significance to me?

Nice of you to call me all talk and no action. I appreciate that, honestly, i do. I said when i started it'd take time to come to FB, took me what, 3 months. I said i would move to FB, and i have. I said i'd help try and turn it back into a war world, that i will also do. What you keep failing to compute, process, or whatever you wish to call it, is that all of this has one f

There was no bargain with Blackeyes. So, there is no "his" side and "our" side of it. Again, not only was nothing agreed to in chat but, in addition, Blackeyes did not offer peace in game and appeared quite prepared to extend the war to another world.

You admit you were not there. To my knowledge, your version of the events are not shared by any party on either side of the conflict. Blackeyes claims he "gave" Zen and Zentrino what assets he left on FB. This sounds like, in his view, a transaction was completed just as he intended. From our end, it was entirely unclear what his intentions were as he relocated much of his forces to LU. So, why don't you state your source for your blatantly wrong information?

I suspect BlackEyes just claimed he was leaving to put us or his next target off guard, and so I see that as an indicator he's going to attack somebody soon. Sun Tzu said "war is deception" after all. I went ahead and pointed out that he really could be OBAMA to provoke a response, and I didn't get one so perhaps he really has left us. I guess I'll believe it when I don't see it. . . ? ?

So how does this affect me one might say?? well BlackEyes made himself one of my [unpredictable] neighbors !! haha. I had been assuming conflict with that one was inevitable. Perhaps not after all. Somehow I think we hadn't seen the last of him regardless.

When you do return BlackEyes as I expect you will, perhaps we can be friendly neighbors. Unless of course you really are OBAMA. Than I will not be your friendly neighbor. But if you really were OBAMA, you'd likely deceive me into thinking you're somebody you

My source is what you said in Hangouts Aries.

I've got it word for word.

Aries - Blackeyes tried to pull some diplomatic coup in chat after he knew he was losing to make up with zen and zentrino. They were not having it. I convinced Blackeyes to drop his forts if he was serious. I think he still thought his fed air from his 3rd country would protect them anyway. Um, not without forts. buh bye.

Aries - Blackeyes diplomacy was to imply he had a gift for zen and zentrino. No one knew if he was actually serious. That was when i called him on the forts if he was. We had no idea he would remove them. When he did, he was vulnerable.

How about you remember what you type and to who you type it.

I don't see anything about a "bargain" there. Do you?

Right there, I told you that Zen and Zentrino were not on board with any type of agreement. His intentions were still unclear. My view was that he was drawing Zen and Zentrino to attack him, thinking his defenses were sufficient. Again, we were guessing his intentions and could only guess at that time since there was no peace agreed to, no peace offered in game, and Blackeyes was moving significant forces to my home world.

Why don't you share what I also said in Hangouts? I am your source and all. I said:

"no peace was agreed to. war was still active. no peace was actually offered by black in game" - 11/15/15, 7:38 PM

"Just making a point here. You guys were not in chat. Blackeyes did not offer a peace treaty. Blackeyes started the war unprovoked. You guys are making a big mistake." -11/16/15, 11:47 PM

Fudge. I lost everything i typed.

Arghhhhhhhhh so annoying when that happens.

'I convinced Blackeyes to drop his forts if he was serious'

'That was when i called him on the forts if he was'

So between the three of you, you didn't think he was serious about diplomacy? Okay, lets give the benefit of doubt, first time round anyway. So he has a little chat with you and you request that he removes his forts to prove that BE is serious about diplomacy.

After he does what you asked, ie remove the forts, you STILL all thought that he wasn't serious about diplomacy? Really. Like, really.

I think BE knew how vulnerable he'd be if he removed the forts, i don't think BE is stupid.

'no peace was agreed to. war was still active. no peace was actually offered by black in game'

Yet to open diplomacy, and let's just throw the ball out into the court, MAY

Are we still talking about what we "thought" Blackeyes intentions were? He still maintains he gave the stuff to Zen and Zentrino. Scroll up dude!

The only difference between you and Zen in his eyes is that Zen actually had to fight a war to get his stuff. You only proved you can purchase stuff in direct trade. The Simcountry world still waits to see if you are capable of anything else.

From Beyond The Grave!

@Aries, was not the deciding factor in my choice to drops my forts, DISMANTLE all 600 of my mobile wings + 150 regular wings + offensive wings. Aries and i did discuss the growing block being placed infront of me, primarily thank's to his awesome assistance And i paused for an hour!
Thought about bringing in more stuff which i did, and started dropping their war index... then i got called out in chat for being... well being ME lol
Zen REALLY hit me hard in our chat, made me think about an earlier convo with Jan in which i shared some personal stuff as well as began destroying my stuff and preparing for my soon exit. But before i left Aries was going to be my final prize or final loss for good.

Aries accepted my plans to war with him while still backing Zen & Zentrino. But i only wanted his main country in the war &#

I only spoke out on the information that was provided.

I'm kind of, stunned as to what to say right now.

I'm in that gap of thinking of how to respond, and hands just in the air waving about like, what the fruitcake.

I dunno how to respond.

Thanks for clearing things up Blackeyes.

"@John West i didn't forget about you... you saved your friends early on by declaring war on every spot in their area to prevent my land units from walking in lmao YOU were a factor in that war GL John West"

Thanks hahah !! That is precisely why I did that, but it was a complete shot in the dark as I did NOT actually think that had any effect against your plans LOL !!!

I was not able to contribute many defensive units at that time from my small army, so I think my allies were upset that I had a considerably smaller stockpile of weapons than they had, and they left their alliance with me right after that conflict ha ha. I did what ever I could to assist at the time though, which is why I did that. I guess all that's important to some people is just how helpful you can be to them. . . Aries said something during that conflict along the lines that I w

@BE and Sunny.

I apologize for past comments made. I shouldn't have made such harsh comments. I was being childish. I myself have gained a lot from that war as well. Mostly professionals. Probably around half of my mobile units are with professionals from BE in that war. After what BE said, I'm going to let myself go on that. I take things too personally when it has absolutely nothing to do with me. To Sunny, I'm going to shut up about it. I'm just jealous that you've gained those assets. That is all. I have no personal beef with you. So I will leave you alone on that. You're an important player in this community, spike things up for us in the future. Maybe me and you can make this more interesting. I need to stop speaking when I don't have clear evidence of people's intentions.

Anyway. I'm going to stop here. Honestly I regret some of the things I said, and wouldn't pull through with me attacking

Blackeyes, I'll take you up on that offer - alsadius@gmail.com

And yeah, that's an interesting revelation. My instinct is to be snarky, but I suspect that'd actually wind up making me sound like a jerk if I did that here, so I'll let it be.

. . . . .. .aaaannd you're now subscribed to a multitude of all sorts of bizarre material ! !

(I think it may be best to private message e-mail addresses rather than drop them out here)

It's not my main email, it's an old one I keep around mostly so I can avoid giving out my main email in situations like this one. I've been on the Internet a while ;)

Have you been on the Internet 'awhile,' or is all the Internet all over you ??

Is there an 'awhile,' or is time merely a perception??

Perhaps there is no time, but there is motion . . .

Can time be measured by a clock, or is it synchronized motion of hands on clocks ?

What is measurement but observation of perceptions of illusions ??

What if the clock as you "see" it is an illusion but a dense vibration of energy wavelengths that resembles a clock to an observer?

Do you actually "see" anything or is that merely a translation of photonic to electronic forms of energy vibration??

What if there is only one energy and all vibration is merely different forms of itself ??

What if there are no different forms of energy but different perceptions of forms of energy?

Is energy observing itself through different perceptions??

What is the Internet

To Zen,

There is no need to apologize to myself or BE, or anyone in this game, for any reason. What happens in this game is purely fictional, and doesn't / shouldn't affect us in any way in real life. I've said before, having tit for tats or 'banter' should be seen as a way of bonding, in some way, not being overly aggressive to one another. If people want to get overly aggressive, do it properly. Message the country explaining why you're annoyed etc etc and what the solutions are, or else. But yeah, again, there's no need to apologize.

We've both said things to one another, and i'll refrain from accusing or poking.

I went with the info i had from Aries, which started all of this business of tit for tats and losing respect. ***Now that BE cleared it up, i take it all back.*** Who knows, maybe in the future we'll go from a negative perspective to a positive.