Has Wolfker gone to the deep end??

Very well said T Mac my trolling brother

GOD WONT RESURRECT
THOSE WHO WONT
SAVE HIS CREATION

Hi Josias. I did enjoyed our chat here last night

but you can't take it to the extreme either way! Theirs a saying "He's so heavenly minded, he's no earthly good!"

saying to let go and let God, detaches us from things that we have no control over. attaching to "love your brother as yourself," re-attaches to social responsibility, in a more realistic way.

is it hateful to you, for me to work hard, and drive home with groceries for my family? if it is, you are taking it to extreme, just find fault.

if you think that hard work to take care of a family is "plush living," you need to take a step back. why must i literally disconnect from the social/material world to know God? Rather, i must disconnect from the need to lie, cheat, and steal to get along.

Jesus had times went he went out alone. How ever, he did not disconnect from human society. He was in fact accused of being a drunk! because he associated with any that since

I'm not advocating a clear cutting campaign, but i'm not opposed to logging, either. Its a renewable resource. I'm not against drilling for oil. But i don't see why solar energy isn't pushed harder...

After about 20 minutes of looking, a few months ago, i found solar powered battery chargers, that where very affordable. even small solar or wind powered generators, can be affordable, and reduce allot of pollution that our current process creates. we can maintain much or our lifestyle, with just some adjustments.

the problem, is more of a high end thing. back in the day, big business bought up all the trolley systems, and ripped them out, so that people would be forced to buy cars. the problem, is those that WILL lie, cheat, and steal, to make a buck.

in a place that i worked at a few years ago, when i got their, i was gung-ho about getting stuff done, and proving myself. but the first hour and half o

Josias- I am not arguing against getting groceries for your family or against work. I bet everyone can agree that work gives us meaning. I am pointing out an idea that seems to be forgotten too often, and that is that if we do nothing, like in your last line, we cannot expect divine intervention. We need to be mindful of our actions, our choices, and our potential. When we do this, we are conscious in the present. We also must think generations beyond now. Will your children's children have to struggle because you took it easy?
On a separate note I challenge you go into the wild, into the natural with your beliefs and see how you can get closer to your God in what has been deemed Gods country. I bet you find peace, ease of connection, and awe of His creation. It is worth your advocacy. As far as lazy people and liars, there are too many of them to beat the honest men. Working to honest pay for honest work is another topic for another da

it is what you said, lol

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basically saying its a distraction from God, to work, to have a life. but what does God want? ironically, God never made an issue in the care of the planet, but entirely on how man relates to each other. with the greatest commandment, to love god, and then the second, to love your neighbor as yourself. its easy to focus on one thing with a magnifying glass, and lose sight of the whole picture, which is to treat God and each other with respect.

how ever, it IS the everyday things, that God is concerned about. its how we live, that is the "city on a hill," carry that thought to the current concept, to go out hang out with grizzl

back in the day, when the Iran war started. i was really, really, poor. I was living on bread and butter, literally, and very sensitive to the price of bread. a loaf of bread went from 49 cents to 89 cents to prevent hoarding. i agreed that was good. then they brought down the statue on live TV, every one breathed a sigh of relief, we all were really worried.

when the statue can down, the next day, bread went back to 49 cents a loaf. about half a week later, i noticed a couple of suits standing by the bread rack at the store, wringing their hands, with a gleam in their eye, the next day, bread was 89 cents again, because the store realized people would pay it.

a few years ago, with the oil price hike. the price of everything went up, because oil is our economies life blood. as a result, people drove less, and the demand went down, so did the price. it returned to near what it was before. how ever, the price of every