At the very least, we two agree on the problem. However, continuing to carve up the world into country sized portions is problematic - there's not enough room for both a world culture and diversity. This gives rise to the same problems of the past - nationalism, stateism, supremism, imperialism, exceptionalism, etc.. The nation state, based upon a culture and/or genetic traits, holds sway over too many people - harming too many for the benefit of the few. Unfortunately for me, my idea gives rise to the specter of a one world govt. limiting the influence and reducing the area of control of the nation/state. Most people don't like that idea.
I believe our species needs a social reorganization.
As we've turned this into an intellectual exercise, rather than an argument, feel free to express yourself.
Eddy Bernays, perhaps the most evil man who ever lived, wrote in his book, "Propaganda",
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Edward Bernays was accurate, that's precisely what's going on right now !! haha
Not sure what the ongoing issue with race is on here -must be a lot of Americans on the forum.
When the robots take over it won't matter what race you are -as will all be a number -how's that? lol
Michael is right!
The singularity is nearing and cylons don't see color.
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The people will accept that number and the mark that bestowed with it.
Indeed there actually is no color, that is an illusion of processing the presence of photons within a particular vibrational spectrum detected by rods and cones photoreceptor cells, and that vibrations trigger an elchemical reaction that is then converted into electronic wavelengths transmitted via biowiring into the electromagnetic fields in our heads aka brainwaves, which is then translated by a trick of the mind into what we perceive as colors, objects, etc.
Regardless of this process if I understand it accurately that is, to desire to control all [groups] of people is one thing, but to throw all people into the same group I believe will increase division and lower overall productiveness of said group, because I recognize there are measurable baseline behavioral tendencies beyond the immediate layer of illusion/perception specifically different overlapping ranges of adaptabilities depending on environments of the originating groups of pe
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If only I could administer mild electric shocks to people through the internet.
Andy make it happen. You're my ace.
Says the one who bears the name of a group of social engineers . . . .as you did not specify I assume you directed that emotional response to me, the last one that had posted. .how am I not surprised . .
you can't fool all of the people all the time Mr BILDERBERG, you're just upset because some of us are onto you !! ! ! haha
and you are here, but don't you have some regime to switch out with your puppets somewhere ??
That's also something I see differently than most.
I see a common root to all manner of "social problems". Racism, racial supremacy, nationalism, exceptionalism; these are all the basic universal social more of loyalty gone awry - applied too fervently and/or inappropriately.
Loyalty, in it's most basic form, is universal; meaning it exists in all societies, in all people in one form or another - with the notable exception of psychopaths. (sorry for the lecture, folks). There is no loyalty more universal than that between mother and child. Which obviates the purpose of this loyalty - survival. Love supports loyalty. Which, in turn, promotes survival. But from there, we have loyalty (and loves) extended to ever larger groups of people; family, tribe, community, state, race, nation. At each level, we create an 'us V. them' mentality complete with different standards of treatment. This is perfectly natu
And sorry to burst your comparison, there. But two different hives of the same species of ant will attack each other. Even the slightest difference in their chemical language is enough to pit them against one another. It's like having every variation in the French language, no matter how slight the accent, is enough to make them instant enemies.
The Tazmanian Devil pandemic is a fine example of why the singularity (thank you, Jonni. I had forgotten the term) is undesirable. It also slows scientific progress and innovation. While it might cure racism, et. al., it exchanges one set of problems for another.
That is a very deep an interesting comment again from jdlech. I agree with all said with one exception. I will disassemble what you said where I disagree.
"But nationalism - the idea that ones own nation is better than all the rest - is nonsense. It all a matter of what metric one uses."
I argue that nationalism is merely love for ones country, according to the logic you presented, and it is NOT exceptionalism.
"And there's no question that exceptionalism - the idea that one's nation should be allowed to do things no other nation should be allowed to do - is obviously immoral (it breaks another universal social more; that of fairness)."
and this one I just think is funny because what you say reminds me of my country the USA, which I have been reminded on occasion is an "exceptional" nation. ha ha. and I agree with your perspective that "exceptionalism" is not right.
The other day I walked into a pub in Dublin, quite a popular one, and everyone inside was wearing a fez. Immediately a noticeable quiet descended upon the place, and many of the patrons turned to look at me.
This debate reminds me of that moment. I slowly backed out and went next door.
That was probably a bunch of masons you walked into while they were having a drink.
Possibly, but there was a distinct lack of people getting hammered.