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W3C - More coming

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Andy

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07 Mar 2018 14:41Link
Next upgrade will include a new boosters page that will function in the same way in the APP and on the desktop.

we will also continue to reduce the cost of weapons and ammunition to
help reduce the cost of war and the cost of maintenance fore the army.

The production of maintenance of weapons is lagging behind what is needed.
The number of corporations producing these products is increasing slowly and with it, the use of weapons of all types.

we expect shortages of maintenance products to continue and as a result we expect shortages of many types of weapons and ammunition to increase.

On the economic side

We see countries that are collapsing under a heavy debt.
Debt is not bad if needed to build the economy and then paid back.

In some cases however, debt is used to finance the army while there is no effort to build a money producing economy.

we think that debt limits should decreas
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
07 Mar 2018 16:54Link
Andy,

Thank you very much for the update on the GM progress. It is greatly appreciated and seems like we should we have some new features coming soon which is exciting.
Also I noticed that you were able to remove the minimum distances needed to engage War which I think will be very helpful so thank you very much.

The GM has been making considerable strides in the war game and I'd like to offer suggestion if I may. One thing I know that cost a lot of money for veterans and even new players just starting out is fortification costs. Fortifications monthly use large amounts of troops and resources.
If I may, I think the GM should look at possibly slightly reducing the troop numbers needed to fortifications in addition fortification seem to use a large amount of military base maintenance. I ran the numbers at varying qualities and I encourage you to do the same in the GM testing countries.
To have a successful test I would enco
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Andy

All worlds
07 Mar 2018 18:11Link
Thanks for your response.
I will look into it.
we are interested in reducing the cost of maintenance.

As to quality.
I know it is a problem.
The solution is to have the maintenance quality influence the quality of the fortification. Not short term.

For now, I would purchase the maintenance products at a low quality.
I will look into increasing the profitability of the corporations producing it and make sure they remain profitable at lower product quality.
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
08 Mar 2018 20:14Link
Andy,

I ran some numbers and did some tests. I think a have an honest starting point for the GM to explore. It would help to lower costs for military's and wouldn't not hurt the economic markets.

Right now a single fortification needs 160 officers and 800 soldiers. Based on my math a single fort uses 20 base maintenance units a month(If this is an incorrect number please let me know so I can change the formula to give a proper answer).

My suggestion is cutting down troop count by 15% in bases and forts. In addition, look at reducing the consumption of military base maintenance units by 10% on fortifications only.

Based on the numbers I ran this wouldn't hurt the overall market because most planets still have a huge demand for military base maintenance, it would decrease in troops in forts wouldn't hurt the military, and in nations with 150 forts players could save a few billion a month which I thin
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razormcgoo

All worlds
08 Mar 2018 21:15Link
For a Fort I would go with 1 officer and 10 men. They really have no defensive capability from what I can see so its just 1000 men waiting to die. So to get to game level 3 its just shy of 20000 men, salaries and supplies. I think they just need to keep the lights on for the garrison and maybe an undefended Fort shouldn't stop a division from trucking through and even capturing the fort. But the fort should give some defensive bonuses to the garrison at a billion dollars a pop.

Or maybe the fort itself should have some defensive capabilities, like built in artillery and missile launchers. Then the quality of the fort would mean something.
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RGB

All worlds
09 Mar 2018 23:47Link
Honestly i believe the fort numbers should be reduced with numbers being reduced by atleast 50% on soldiers, with officers being 75%; only so many needed to manage areas and soldiers. Note that garrisons are different from forts, but again i come to a point:

Forts are specifically designed for holding weapons to utilize against opponents to prevent entry/further occupation. While cities, towns and corporations plus airports and space centers which are noted "civilian" (whatever i might be forgetting) might hold them, they were never spefically made for the wear and tear of warfare, simple to put. Razormcgoo has a point, but again more pertains to the quality issue of the fort as garrisons solve what the fort will hold, the key is how the quality of the fort will affect the weapons put into it, as high quality forts will have a number affect on the weapons and ammo inside of them, possibly like so being that upgrading could be higher
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razormcgoo

All worlds
10 Mar 2018 18:36Link
What I was suggesting is that the fort itself have weapon capabilities appropriate for the staff levels. The fort could be equipped with defensive missiles, AA, light artillery and missile intercepters. The weapon quality would be the fort quality.

Or just have a skeleton staff where there is no garrison. A fort is either defended or it isn't. An undefended fort can be captured which is key. The biggest value of forts, as it now stands, is that it takes billions of dollars in ammo to destroy one and you have to destroy most of them to reduce your opponent's war situation index which is necessary to win a war. So a strategy could be to build a lot of forts and leave them with no garrison so the 1000 men is a necessary to make that more expensive to maintain. If an undefended fort could just be captured by a occupation unit that would lead to a more strategic PVP war and make that expense unnecessary.

The real problem with wa
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Andy

All worlds
12 Mar 2018 14:15Link
a fortification has 800 soldiers, 160 officers and uses 18 maintenance units a month and also other products.

we will reduce the numbers of soldiers and officers a bit and we will change the production process of these maintenance units to make more for a lower price each.

There are many fortifications and such updates can change the markets with many more free workers etc. we will be careful but want to reduce the cost of the military.

I understand the math presented here but you should realize that it is impossible to make very large changes at once.

we will however make more reductions in the cost of war and there are many parameters in that equation.

The defense of fortifications is dependent on the garrison. Fortifications block military units (the garrisons do).

Changing the way it is done will be a major development effort and will make a tiny difference.

better do other, more im
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Lord Mndz

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12 Mar 2018 17:57Link
I see that biggest armies are being stored at CEO accounts to prevent huge maintenance and ammunition usage costs, which tells that these costs are too high to keep armies at countries and involve them into fighting. This could be changed easily to invite players to build large armies and engage in fights.

Fortifications are only targets to be destroyed, when wars are being fought by armies. I would encourage promoting army vs army fight rather than this fort thing.
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
12 Mar 2018 19:54Link
Andy,

Thank you very much, I truly appreciate your open communication with us on these matters.
I think a reduction in soldiers regarding forts with the addition of tweaking the costs of goods will go a LONG way to helping to reduce costs. Also I have an Idea how to introduce Quality effects in the military which help would to promote huge armies and reduce military costs. Granted my idea is simplistic so bare with me.

How hard would it for the GM to create an code that averages the Quality of active military units in the country and average materials consumed then create an average factor that is in turn used to reduce player costs?

What I'm saying is lets say you have 10 fighter wings at 450Q and your Consumption Quality Index is 250. Adding them together then dividing by 10 would give you a number that can be turned into a percentage(450 + 250 = 700 --- 700 / 10 = 70).

You said the GM has base numb
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razormcgoo

All worlds
12 Mar 2018 21:07Link
Thanks for responding Andy

I do appreciate that making changes of this nature would destabilize the markets in all sectors for game decades. With that in mind I'd like to throw a little more math at you. It takes 6 tons of supplies to produce a single round of light tank ammo and 1250 tons of supplies to produce a light tank. You should easily be able to produce 3000 tanks a month and 10 million tank rounds. I expect those types of numbers are similar throughout the defence industry.
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Madoff

All worlds
15 Mar 2018 17:26Link
It's unreasonable that countries can have more forts than cities, towns, and counties combined. The maximum limit of 150 forts per country is too high. That many forts is fake defense.
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Khome

All worlds
15 Mar 2018 21:59Link
...well, there was Albania during the cold war..
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Edwin White

All worlds
16 Mar 2018 03:10Link
Hello it is me the Emir of Katara, we are proclaiming an Islamic state in Little Upsilon
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
16 Mar 2018 03:52Link
Enver Hoxha famously built 750,000 bunkers across Albania, to protect its meager 3 million inhabitants from a hypothetic Soviet invasion.
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Khome

All worlds
16 Mar 2018 14:24Link
Exactly. It was one of the odd exceptions where an Eastern Bloc nation sided with Mao over Khrushchev (who departed from Stalinism).

They are monumental curiosities.
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Andy

All worlds
21 Mar 2018 17:26Link
Supersoldier,

It is too complex.
Many players might understand the complexity but do they want it?

Also, we should not create features that give several large empires and very smart presidents a huge advantage. It will put them miles in front of the others.

I do want to reduce the cost of war and I would like to get these armies back from the enterprise into the country.

We have reduced the cost several times recently and will do so again.

These are serious reductions and they both cut the cost of the army and increase profitability of countries.

razormcgoo

You are probably right.
they are quite lazy in these corporations.
but this is now 4 times better than in the past.
25% of the workers, more production and a lower cost per piece.

If we make these corporations produce 3.000.000 pieces a month, they will all bankrupt.
they will have to eat the ammo and the tanks a