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05 Oct 2020 23:55Link
I appreciate the ongoing dialogue here, and think some changes you're making will indeed help the war game improve, which is my primary goal with the positions I take in this discussion.
Respectfully though, you didn't answer my question. Why would you limit players being able to stay at lower war levels? Players need practice, want to be able to test tactics and weapons out, and want flexibility. Everyone in this thread who has talked about this concept agrees that they'd prefer the OPTION to stay at lower levels, and these are some of the players who've actually gone through war levels and won wars.
I understand you believe players are incentivized to go to higher war levels, but if they were, more would. Despite these incentives, you have just three players on your busiest planet (WG) who've ever progressed beyond war level 3. Three.
On Fearless Blue, your war world, you start at war level 3 (a
Respectfully though, you didn't answer my question. Why would you limit players being able to stay at lower war levels? Players need practice, want to be able to test tactics and weapons out, and want flexibility. Everyone in this thread who has talked about this concept agrees that they'd prefer the OPTION to stay at lower levels, and these are some of the players who've actually gone through war levels and won wars.
I understand you believe players are incentivized to go to higher war levels, but if they were, more would. Despite these incentives, you have just three players on your busiest planet (WG) who've ever progressed beyond war level 3. Three.
On Fearless Blue, your war world, you start at war level 3 (a
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06 Oct 2020 01:57Link
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This is not a flexible system. If you achieve high war levels, you no longer can easily achieve this. It becomes extremely expensive and time consuming. This exact reason is why players are asking about having the option to fight lower level c3s. You're highlighting what we're asking for here, though it seems you're misunderstanding how flexible your system is.
<!-Quote-!>Quote:Then there is the "need" for a flexible empire, so you can conquer a country far away, release it later and do it again.
This enables you to fight a real war at a large distance with a C3 country you conquered as a base.
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This is not a flexible system. If you achieve high war levels, you no longer can easily achieve this. It becomes extremely expensive and time consuming. This exact reason is why players are asking about having the option to fight lower level c3s. You're highlighting what we're asking for here, though it seems you're misunderstanding how flexible your system is.
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11 Oct 2020 15:36Link
What I said is that you will be able to increase the size of your empire to 5 countries, fighting on at level 3.
Once you have five, you can reduce the empire to 4 and fight again at wl3.
this is giving you the option of fighting at war level 3 for ever and the flexibility of where you want to have your country.
If you want to have 10 countries in the empire, it has a higher complexity level, you can do the same, have country 6-10 while fighting at wl 4.
then continue at war level 4, while reducing the empire size to 9 and having the flexibility to conquer countries for strategic reasons.
I said in a previous post that I do not see the need for trivial wars for experienced players.
why would you E.O, fight trivial wars at WL3. you are more than experienced enough to fight them at WL4, or 5 or higher.
Building a very large empire by fighting many wars at WL3 does not sound logical to us here.
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Once you have five, you can reduce the empire to 4 and fight again at wl3.
this is giving you the option of fighting at war level 3 for ever and the flexibility of where you want to have your country.
If you want to have 10 countries in the empire, it has a higher complexity level, you can do the same, have country 6-10 while fighting at wl 4.
then continue at war level 4, while reducing the empire size to 9 and having the flexibility to conquer countries for strategic reasons.
I said in a previous post that I do not see the need for trivial wars for experienced players.
why would you E.O, fight trivial wars at WL3. you are more than experienced enough to fight them at WL4, or 5 or higher.
Building a very large empire by fighting many wars at WL3 does not sound logical to us here.
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Chris
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16 Oct 2020 02:47Link
I didn't read the above. My attention span is small. But what purpose is war levels when there are no wars? Seems like they were implemented way back when people were complaining about all of the wars that were going on back in the day. They wanted to play a "peaceful game" and these war levels were the implementation to satisfy them (though, I maintain that war protection was perfectly fine for that). But there doesn't seem to be conflicts anymore. Why maintain something stupid like war levels? Just because they've been around? Get rid of a feature that is dumb. New players should be enabled and encouraged to go C3 raiding for the experience and some small $. And if people don't want to war (what war?), WP is available.
BC - because I can't change my name for a week...
Edit: I read a little more of the above... a little. I guess I'm unqualified to have an opinion at this point until I play t
BC - because I can't change my name for a week...
Edit: I read a little more of the above... a little. I guess I'm unqualified to have an opinion at this point until I play t
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23 Oct 2020 22:00Link
I've hesitated to respond here because it doesn't seem like you understand my point about how going up in war levels makes it more difficult for you to fight other players. I guess no one fights much anyways these days, but there are a number of reasons for that. I'll try again to comment on some war level challenges (from my point of view). War levels are less of an issue on FB, but most of your players aren't there, so I'll leave that topic alone for now. This will be a long response - so I thank you for the audience in advance.
<!-Quote-!>Quote:What I said is that you will be able to increase the size of your empire to 5 countries, fighting on at level 3.
Once you have five, you can reduce the empire to 4 and fight again at wl3.
this is giving you the option of fighting at war level 3 for ever and the flexibility of where you want to have your country.
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30 Oct 2020 16:07Link
I think our proposal will offer a solution.
One point is a bit strange.
I was made to believe that conquering C3 countries is not for resources but for more flexibility.
I had my doubts but players said repeatedly that it is not for resources.
I think that our proposal will bring a lot of flexibility and allow you conquer countries, quite easily, far away and then switch to other locations etc.
Sometimes it sounds like:
Don't bother to agree with me, I already changed my mind.
I refer again to the war competition world where at the end, two players registered.
One point is a bit strange.
I was made to believe that conquering C3 countries is not for resources but for more flexibility.
I had my doubts but players said repeatedly that it is not for resources.
I think that our proposal will bring a lot of flexibility and allow you conquer countries, quite easily, far away and then switch to other locations etc.
Sometimes it sounds like:
Don't bother to agree with me, I already changed my mind.
I refer again to the war competition world where at the end, two players registered.
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30 Oct 2020 17:10Link
I understand your confusion - I made a long post talking about many things, and probably not very clearly.
Personally, it's the flexibility issues that I'd like see changed most about c3 wars right now. The original poll was started for this reason, and is why I started talking about this topic. I was trying to make a case for why the poll was a good idea. Your proposal seems like it will probably help with this. I like your idea, and beyond flexibility, I think it will improve the way war levels function in general. I'm excited to see this change implemented if and when you do.
My additional comments about other players in the past were meant to just illustrate other general frustrations and drawbacks that occur with war levels (not just war level 3, for example), as they reduce the number of things players could do in the game and reduce player engagement. I think war levels reduced the willingness of some pla
Personally, it's the flexibility issues that I'd like see changed most about c3 wars right now. The original poll was started for this reason, and is why I started talking about this topic. I was trying to make a case for why the poll was a good idea. Your proposal seems like it will probably help with this. I like your idea, and beyond flexibility, I think it will improve the way war levels function in general. I'm excited to see this change implemented if and when you do.
My additional comments about other players in the past were meant to just illustrate other general frustrations and drawbacks that occur with war levels (not just war level 3, for example), as they reduce the number of things players could do in the game and reduce player engagement. I think war levels reduced the willingness of some pla
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30 Oct 2020 18:59Link
Andy, - war competition world could be a success it just requires different configuration. If you are interested in this I could dedicate some time and write you an email with concept.
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Andy
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30 Oct 2020 23:15Link
Thanks mndz.
we are not going in that direction any time soon.
we are not going in that direction any time soon.
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Amalie
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31 Oct 2020 00:32Link
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We should also have the option to send loans directly to countries and enterprises
With a maximum or default interest rate
We should also have the option to send loans directly to countries and enterprises
With a maximum or default interest rate
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Amalie
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31 Oct 2020 00:38Link
Are we even allowed to be presidents
It is like we’re restricted from a lot of things
It is like we’re restricted from a lot of things
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Andy
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12 Nov 2020 07:50Link
The loans were discussed in a different part of the forum.
If you hate limitations, please explain which ones and we will try to help.
the loans do not represent any limitation.
there are many ways to do loans.
we prefer the market.
Everyone can always get a loan with a reasonable interest rate.
we had time at the start period, where you could set the interest rate.
so the second account got loans from the first account for 100% interest per real day and after the second account bankrupted, it was discarded and a new account appeared and did the same.
we could spend two months of development time to do it again and this time do it right, and we will end up at the same place we are now.
If you hate limitations, please explain which ones and we will try to help.
the loans do not represent any limitation.
there are many ways to do loans.
we prefer the market.
Everyone can always get a loan with a reasonable interest rate.
we had time at the start period, where you could set the interest rate.
so the second account got loans from the first account for 100% interest per real day and after the second account bankrupted, it was discarded and a new account appeared and did the same.
we could spend two months of development time to do it again and this time do it right, and we will end up at the same place we are now.