W3C - Game News Feb. 6

I'm glad you saw the light.

I heard Dub had pulled simnations...

Just to be ultra clear: I wasn't recommending players in feds should be able to attack any war level, that is - initiate the fight, just respond if one of their members is attacked.

And if going up war levels is running away, what is the point of having them, there are rewards for going up them. But if you are one of the older players in a fed, then how can you assist noobs (except fed air) if you go up war levels. So the way it is set up atm doesnt encourage feds, a bad thing IMO. It just encourages people to go solo or creates feds of many experienced war vets ( which apparently most dont want ), at higher war levels.

well, the fed system can thrive under warlevels. infact, it can be better than before. it really is how it is approached.

what often happens in simcountry, is that vets wait for ever for something to happen, and when it does, they tend to crowd out newbs that want to be involved.

if a fed sets themselves up, in such a way, that they rely on newer players for location, it makes the newer players valuable. allowing fed wars to be fought on multipul levels, and reguardless of a players position on the WL ladder, they are important. Which is key. If a player is told they are important, but have nothing to do, or aren't strong enough to participate, they will go away. if you make it possible for them to do something of value, you'll most likely gain a loyal ally. which i think that most vets fail to realize, these new players that are of a PvP WL, have signed up to fight. drowning them out, washes them away

a for instance, recently, some one of much lower wl took a couple C3s next to my big countries on LU. And that person was fed'd with enemies (at the time,) so i was looking at a powerful enemy in my WL range, who had an low WL ally holding a country on my boarder. I was able to get a low WL fed mate to prepare an assualt to remove the threat from my boarder, that i was unable to do myself, because of WLs.

i'm not complaining, actually, i think that more of this kinda of involvement would be healthy for the game.

this kind of thing, managed to involve 2 lower war level players, in an important role, in a bigger fight.

war levels can work. they were in fact created to give newer players a more survivable chance at gaining XP. allowing high level players to attack lower level players in fed defense, would kinda be shooting ourselves in the foot. we need to let newer players play the game, rather than playing it for them.

The GM needs to fix the war dec issue.

Plain and simple if i sign the war dec and my buddys attacked i should regurdless be allowed to help. If im war level 3 and hes 7 and hes being attacked by and 8 its MY CHOICE to help him out NOT the Gamemasters... PERIOD!

The only time anyone either higher or lower should fight someone out there bracket is with a war dec, otherwise the normal 2above or below rule should stay in place.

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allowing high level players to attack lower level players in fed defense, would kinda be shooting ourselves in the foot. we need to let newer players play the game, rather than playing it for them.<!-/Quote-!>

Very well spoken Josias.

at least we can agree on something. i hated WLs when they started. but as time goes on, they make more and more sense. even w/o the mob war.

older players tend to push newer players out of the way.

War Levels are suppose to give newbs room to operate.

i cant believe im being accused of abusing blackouts because i have to eat dinner , play with my kids,talk to the wife ,use the toilet and maybe even call my mother. My blackouts our set for my conviencence not wendys lol....and why i need to explain that to anyone i dont know. My wars with wendy have gone on for days and even weeks i usually have to take around 10 c3s from her before she hides in war protection and builds up another c3 empire. So my blackouts are not set to abuse anything they are beieng used so that i can still enjoy the game when i exactly want to enjoy it ....stop crying wendy and come out and fight nobodys running from you, we could fight tomorrow if you had the guts !!

What you suggest can be done electively Josias. Thats down to the fed leaders. You are not talking about anything the game rules dictate. Should the need arise where fed members are needed to help, they should be allowed to. If you want to encourage low level new players, then let them have their fight solo. As it is, a noob cant feel secure or protected by his fed.

Jack you've gotten 3 straight beat-downs and the latest at the hands of 2 c3s I actually had the chance to use. Your chest puffing is noted. I'd hate to be accused of harassing you.

I even took a country you bought and really leveled the rest of your empire. I could have taken any number of them too, but I actually felt bad for you because you paid coin for them. Where were your allies then?

I only stopped this last war early because it was apparent very quickly that it was going to be an instant replay. No fun in popping hot air balloons :s

I would find a good mentor and get some lessons in. I'm sure there are many teachers who hate my character in the game enough to give you free lessons. When you have improved a bit, come and see me.

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My wars with wendy have gone on for days and even weeks i usually have to take around 10 c3s from her before she hides in war protection and builds up another c3 empire. -Jack<!-/Quote-!>

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Jack you've gotten 3 straight beat-downs and the latest at the hands of 2 c3s I actually had the chance to use. -Wendy<!-/Quote-!>

I hardly call it a beat down wendy. In your own mind yes. You fight from useless c3s, throw a few nukes and suddenly you are a supreme warrior?
You ran from Jack and hid in wp because you knew you would never win.
Now go away and let the grown ups play the game.

I'm sure you wouldn't Keto. If your real countries in your empire are getting carpet nuked after building up c3s for weeks on my doorstep and call that a win, then feel free to continue fooling yourselves all you like. You need to help the man get his priorities straight. Defense of your empire while threatening a player you want to attack should be high on the list.

Don't give up on the suggestion that you get some lessons Jack.

The fact that the defense is coming from Keto, who also has been extensively carpet nuked for the great warrior he is, is astounding and lends weight to my assertion. Keto's former dilemma is very well documented on this very forum. Dig if you must.

In the latest war with Jack I didn't have to take any measures to remove any nuke garrisons. There were just poorly maintained targets with little or no defense. In your real empire countries? Wow.... But call yourselves setting up on moi?

And speaking of Keto, I doubt he'll be any assistance to you Jack other than continuing this pointless charade of chest puffing. Here is a blast from the past :S Note: the date = 2010 there. It is now 2013.

I'll even go a step further and extend the same offer I once gave to Keto. If your pride can handle it- I will myself go through the necessary steps with you on how to properly install, at the very least a nuclear defense garrison at your nuke-able targets, and leave it there.

I hope to be able to help you before I'm tempted to meet up with you again on a battlefield. Alternatively, you could continue taking war advice from Super, which... explains a lot actually. LMAO. I'm sorry I couldn't help it.

put your military where your mouth is. Any county you attack me with you will lose and you know this i too have been hopeing for a lot more from you but have now realized your just a bunch of hot air.

I love the smell of diplomacy in the morning.

Sooo... you'll be as hardheaded as Keto was...

Pride goes before a great fall Jack.

I tell you what. How about you, Gaz, and Super join your friends on war level 6. And I'll join myself and we'll all have one great big party and give you n00bs a fighting chance. Deal? We'll see who is scared of what. I can hear your collective cries of agony going to the sim heavens begging for game changes. I'm excited.

It's been a while were you all discussing odds or what?

What a let down.... Talk about hot air balloons :s