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Khome

All worlds
08 Oct 2017 20:03Link
Help me out with this.. has anyone else noticed that corps within enterprises are starting to help themselves to the enterprise's cash? Even after lowering the cash amount for all of my corps to 45B (which was always an acceptable amount), the next time would I log on, my enterprise is in the negative by the trillions. The reason being, all of it's cash is being siphoned into each corp, raising their cash amounts that were not typical in the past. I then manually reduce the amounts of each corp to 45B, however this repeats itself daily. This is new. Is this a glitch or was there a change I was not made aware of?

Thnx
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Johanas Bilderberg

All worlds
08 Oct 2017 23:32Link
Just noticed it myself. I keep my corps at 41B which has been plenty to stay in the black.

Now each time I log on my CEO has lost 26T to the corps.
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Johanas Bilderberg

All worlds
08 Oct 2017 23:36Link
Double post.
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Khome

All worlds
09 Oct 2017 17:46Link
triple
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Andy

All worlds
10 Oct 2017 11:05Link
Can you give me a name of an enterprise?
to what level is the cash increased.
Is it increased in all corporations to the same level?

We did not change anything at all for a very long time.
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Johanas Bilderberg

All worlds
10 Oct 2017 12:38Link
The Bilderberg Group on LU.
On log in cash available is 24.093 trillion. Cash is reduced in all corps to 41B manually.

Enterprise cash available is 51.451 trillion.

I will log off and in again to check spread but usually it isn't equal.
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Johanas Bilderberg

All worlds
10 Oct 2017 12:44Link
It isn't instantaneous. I double checked my automation parameters and nothing has changed on my end.
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Johanas Bilderberg

All worlds
11 Oct 2017 00:48Link
Ok Andy.

Logged in and cash had moved from enterprise to corps.

It is random ,some corps are 81B, some are 62, and several are only 45B.

I left it as is so perhaps you can make some sense of things.

The Bilderberg Group on LU.
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
11 Oct 2017 03:10Link
This is an issue for state corps as well. I have corps adding huge amounts at random. They have no debt, making a profit, and sitting on 50B or so in cash, then all of a sudden they inject themselves with 30B for no reason.

Andy, You really might want to double check this issue. If it is an issue it would warrant immediate action as it could bankrupt people or cause massive cash issues.

https://sim05.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=corphist&miKey=3464215&miColumn=vCorpCash

https://sim05.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=corphist&miKey=3464216&miColumn=vCorpCash
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Andy

All worlds
12 Oct 2017 13:38Link
I thought that you observed blanket transfer into all corporations. This should not happen.

Both countries and enterprise try to keep their corporations afloat.
When there is low cash, they move money in (not into any public corporations, only fully owned ones).

The amount depends on the need for cash and profitable corporations will probably not need any.
Many times it happens when you purchase a lot of raw materials.

The feature is very old and has not changed in years.
It was created when players complained about bankrupted corporations, that could survive but needed a lot of cash to purchase raw materials for many months.

The number of bankruptcies decreased.

Corporations can bankrupt despite the feature, if there are sudden changes in cash and large negative cash. They can bankrupt before any transfer takes place.

The same happens in state corporations.

I general, we a
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Jauterson001

All worlds
12 Oct 2017 14:00Link
That does make sense now. The corporations are getting transfers when their cash levels reach 40-45B. I didn't think that much cash was really needed in the corporation. I was thinking when the levels started getting closer to 20-25B in a corporation, then it would get a automatic transfer.

I will just keep transferring the cash back to my CEO. The only thing that is bugging me is that if I don't have much cash on hand in my CEO, then I have to take loans to cover the transfers. You shouldn't be penalized for having lower cash levels in your corporations.
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Khome

All worlds
12 Oct 2017 15:41Link
Exactly, this is happening to enterprises, not so much countries. And the change was sudden, like about over a week ago. More than one is reporting this, at the same time. No coincidence. My enterprises corps are taking funds out of my enterprises themselves and raising it to levels that it never had before. If there was a change, we need to know.
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Andy

All worlds
12 Oct 2017 21:30Link
We did not change anything on enterprises cash for a very long time.

I will check however.

Two weeks ago, I have increased the max loans corporations can take before they bankrupt. It was intended to reduce the chance for an unnecessary bankruptcy.
I increased the limit by 20B. also the point where you get a warning was pushed back a bit.

I do not see how changing the max debt can influence cash transfers into corporations but I will look into it.
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Johanas Bilderberg

All worlds
13 Oct 2017 00:28Link
It is something recent. I manually change cash levels every few days and keep corps at 41B which is sufficient to avoid any loans.

The issue is having over 800 corporations all trying to siphon off cash at once.
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
13 Oct 2017 01:07Link
Andy,

Their is an issue going on somewhere. In my nation of Melichor on LU, I haven't had any problems until just of late. This game year ALONE my country has transferred "-893,000.00M SC$".

I would encourage you to investigate my nation. I haven't changed anything major and as a country we cannot withdraw income from state corps, so it makes little to no sense why a corporation with a steady income flow all of a sudden needs 10's of billions injected into it.

The only thing I can think of is you said there was a change recently with corporation profitability. Could it by accident have effected?
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Sheepman RGB

All worlds
13 Oct 2017 02:06Link
Yeah super gots the right idea, theres something up with my corporations needing ridiculous amounts of needed cash.
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Khome

All worlds
13 Oct 2017 05:45Link
Yup, no doubt; still happening. I'm having to log on hourly to make sure i'm not trillions in the red. I've looked through my corps; it seems that the surge in cash hike in each corp usually happens around the $43 billion mark. This is a problem....
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Khome

All worlds
13 Oct 2017 05:46Link
...and another thing, if these corps keep taking cash from enterprises and corps, where does that cash end up going if not in the corp?
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Jauterson001

All worlds
14 Oct 2017 01:06Link
Khome.. I haven't seen yet where the money has disappeared during one of the transfers. I am still just transferring it back after. I am also noticing it happen around 43B for some odd reason.
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Khome

All worlds
14 Oct 2017 03:08Link
Yeah, 43B seems to be the trigger point. I've been moving money back in my enterprises to, the countries are having problems because you can't transfer out of corps there.
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Fantasticzero

All worlds
15 Oct 2017 11:29Link
Got the same thing here.

I usually set cash for all corps to 40B and had no problem while making profit and only ones loosing would take like 30B from enterprise, but now, even 40~45B doesn't work. The thing is, many of my corps are in red most of the time (I internally contract products around to minimize outside trade, just for my own satisfaction) + my enterprise is in big debt anyway, so I need the money to repay it, but this thing keep bringing in more loans just to satisfy those hungry corps.
I had to set it to 50B to make the cash flow stablised.

I'm playing a cash tight game here. or rather, I did. I want to play the business as I want to. pls look into it.
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Khome

All worlds
15 Oct 2017 17:51Link
GM very silent.... A lot of complaints about this.... I lost a lot of funds on this, I don't know how, or where it's going.
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Sheepman RGB

All worlds
16 Oct 2017 03:40Link
Same khome.
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Heisenberg

All worlds
16 Oct 2017 04:25Link
I've lost somewhere around 27T already.

Don't worry, I kissed it goodbye before it left.
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Khome

All worlds
16 Oct 2017 10:30Link
GM! Something is seriously wrong! Where are you!