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Hey you Brits...

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Border C

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09 Aug 2011 15:17Link
WTF is up with you Londoners? I don't understand how you protest the Government by destroying and looting local businesses.

Why don't you just throw some tea into the North Sea? That seems to get the Crown's attention...
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shallom (Golden Rainbow)

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09 Aug 2011 15:28Link
i agree i think the police shooting is being used as an excuse for criminals to steal things and burn down things. setting business on fire and stealing from stores is not protesting its criminality.
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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09 Aug 2011 15:40Link
Damn it! I love London! Stop burning it down. The Royal family should be leading the charge on horseback against these hooligans. Get some good use out of all those polo lessons!
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)

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09 Aug 2011 16:24Link
Maybe if they used their cups 'o tea to dash the flames it be out by now.
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Dix0n (White Giant)

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09 Aug 2011 20:31Link
At least go after the food industries. Get a proper pastry in there for goodness sake! Rally for better tacos! Make it *mean* something, not just burning down the local pub.
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Crafty (Fearless Blue)

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09 Aug 2011 20:44Link
Bunch of feral youth.
Police, teachers, youth workers etc, HELL, even parents, aren't allowed to chastise their children.
So they've grown up with the "you can't touch me" attitude "or I'll take you to court" thing. See where political correctness gets you? Its been coming for ages, you could feel it on the streets. At bit of hardship now with economic pressure, one incidient where a thug shot at a policeman and got shot to death by said policeman, and they went to town. He took his chance and he lost the gunfight, TOUGH.

Very soon now the vigilante groups will be out, there are rumours some are assembling right now as I write this. There are 1000s of regular people to every one of these yobs and society aint gonna stand for it for long. Not the ideal way to sort it out, but the cops can only do so much before they risk being called heavy handed and police state etc etc.

The British spir
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)

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09 Aug 2011 21:09Link
Damn CC

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Police, teachers, youth workers etc, HELL, even parents, aren't allowed to chastise their children.
So they've grown up with the "you can't touch me" attitude "or I'll take you to court" <!-/Quote-!>




you said it all right there.


But in America, the politicians are now drumming up that rhetoric you heard in Greece after the default on their debt made the politicians steal the pensions and so on.

In America, it ain't happening. They aren't just expecting it, they are prepared for it. Think those FEMA Detention camps are for nothing?


War is coming to this Planet.


WW3 is the citizens vs. Governments.
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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09 Aug 2011 21:20Link
Now, I'm going to check the the batteries in my survival kit.
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Crafty (Fearless Blue)

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09 Aug 2011 21:26Link
As the beatles said:

"We all want a revolution.." and then go on to say something about if its violent then count me out.

OK yeah, it is coming for sure, and good. But trashing your own hood to make your voice heard?

I was in LosAng in the aftermath of the Watts riots, more racial I know but did it really achieve the desire? Hell no, poor black people still crush aluminum cans under bus wheels to sell for scrap to get a meal a day. This is Los Angeles!!! not Delhi.

We have to get justice, transparency et al, but not by giving govts excuse to mow us down. Egypt did it. Most of the middle east is in the middle of it, who's gonna win?
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Billy_Bob_Joe_Bob_Steve (Kebir Blue)

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09 Aug 2011 21:37Link
Jeez, first the Canucks, now the Brits. Next thing you know, Gandhi and Mother Theresa will be rising from their graves and throwing rocks through a store window. This is something I'd expect over here in the good old U.S.A.... but the Republicans keep most of the people too stupid to realize that a riot is in order. Probably a good thing, since we have zero gun control and a terrible public health system.
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Psycho_Honey (Fearless Blue)

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09 Aug 2011 21:50Link
Gun control stops nothing. It empowers criminals and weakens otherwise law abiding citizens from defending themselves.

All the criminals have the high powered automatic assault rifles and sub-machine guns. Law abiding citizens have deer rifles and hand-guns tucked away in gun cases under lock and key.
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Laguna

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09 Aug 2011 21:55Link
Did anyone see the footage of a guy getting beaten once, falling on the ground trying to get away, and just as the policeman steps back, he gets up, defies the policeman to smack him again? You can see that as he defies, he gets ready to run. Yes, these are cowards.
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Crafty (Fearless Blue)

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09 Aug 2011 21:55Link
My pick-axe handle pwns your AK47 :)
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J. Skullz (Little Upsilon)

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10 Aug 2011 00:37Link
Billy Bob, you should live in Arizona. Our gun laws are lax. Is "London's Burning" playing on British airways or what?
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Jo Salkilld (White Giant)

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10 Aug 2011 01:32Link
Just one thing, Crafty ... the 'thug' didn't shoot the policeman. The gunshot that was fired at the policemen has been traced back to a bullet that was police issue and didn't match the handgun that the victim was alleged to have used.

I'm not condoning violence or opportunistic looting, but when you have a government that focuses necessary austerity measures on preserving profits and taking away the little that the disadvantaged members of society have, rather than penalising the fat-cats who caused the problems, there is bound to be some fallout.

The last time this happened in the UK (and unsurprisingly, it started in the same disadvantaged area in London) was ... drumroll ... around six years after Margaret Thatcher became Prime Minister, with similar screw-the-poor-so-long-as-the-rich-people-are-alright values.

Nothing is ever black and white, and it's not as easy as you think to lay the blam
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Green Paws (Little Upsilon)

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10 Aug 2011 01:43Link
3 years ago London (minority) elected a Conservative (right wing) mayor (Boris) who's first priorities was to cut funds that enouraged integration and understanding. Race equality festivals, youth support, events and organisations had funding withdrawn.

Housing is in incredible short-supply and now the Conservative (with Liberal partners) government is reducing the funding to enable people to live in their home areas and rather than clamping down on rents they are withdrawing the funding to the individual making them homeless.

The right to live in a 1 bed flat is now being raised from 25 to 35 giving them another 10 years of living in smelly rooms or bedsits, without work and higher inflation, watching the rich look down on them.

Ken Livingstone (the previous mayor) had excellent plans for creating a one London with plans to support every community and everyone but then he's a REAL
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Green Paws (Little Upsilon)

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10 Aug 2011 01:44Link
Here, here, Jo.
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Sunny (Kebir Blue)

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10 Aug 2011 01:59Link
Come at us in Southall and we'll show them who the victims are.

No tramps gonna be touching us.
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James the fair (Little Upsilon)

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10 Aug 2011 17:43Link
The poor ar'nt as badly done to in the UK as you all seem to think, they're are all a waste of space and recieve very generous benefits at that, they cause nothing but trouble and stir trouble and like nothing but making trouble. Do you lot really think for a second they want to have jobs and who the hell would want to employ that lot anyway? if I was an employer and running my own business I can tell you right now I would'nt want to employ them at all. Green Paws why are you so against Boris Johnson and the conservative govenment? they're doing all they can to put an end to this rioting of which the rioters will most likely be labour supporters as I know the working classes and other scum in this country only too well from my own personal experience.
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Crafty

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10 Aug 2011 18:23Link
Jo, he had a gun and so was a threat, more than a threat, what was the copper supposed to do?

Anyway, this was a so called trigger (no pun intended) in Tottenham, an area of London. Guns and murder are common place, why this one?
And what has it to do with Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool etc.?
OK, I agree with you that there is a lack of morale (for want of a better word) amongst the less priveledged in England, but to blame the so called rich is ridiculous. Its called capitalism, the philosophy of the US and UK and many western countries. The poor can help themselves, many do, but giving people everything they demand/want (as opposed to need) merely encourages people to do nothing for themselves. You'll notice some of my posts in this game show my deep belief in this, if someone cant be bothered to try then they get no sympathy from me.. You guys might have also seen live interviews with some offenders wh
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Quetzalcoatl (Fearless Blue)

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10 Aug 2011 19:39Link
This is why i like the good old US uncle sam, We as people of this great nation have the right to bear arms, if someone comes at me trying to hurt me ill shoot. I believe i read somewhere that we have more guns in the US so that every person in the U.S would have 2. Thats more than 600,000,000 guns in the U.S.A. Got to love our guns.
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Quetzalcoatl (Fearless Blue)

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10 Aug 2011 19:40Link
With 600,000,000 million guns that makes the U.S people the strongest ground force in the world, how about them apple's china.
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Green Paws (Little Upsilon)

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11 Aug 2011 01:24Link
The poor are always badly dealt with no matter which country and if mismanaged will always be a powder keg waiting to explode. Capitalism is merely meant to be a way of providing for all with efficiency but once it loses its edge and it is isolating communities and people then it is the wrong system for a nation.

Many criminals will claim benefits to hide their illegal activities but mnay youngsters can be prevented from this by early intervention, something pioneered by Labour. From the age 3 to the age 21, there were a host of interventionists and more under Ken in London. These worked worked in the difficult communities where many felt crime paid as an alternative to working as lowly paid workers ordered about. They watched their parents or grandparents do just that and have given up looking for justice and have the mindset of rampage.

These problems cannot be dealt with in the long-term by tough justice if this is a contunituous p
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Skandar

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11 Aug 2011 16:21Link
@Gothamloki "I love London! Stop burning it down."

S'alright. Most of the rioting has been confined to the 'burbs, Camden (which usually looks like a riot has recently passed through) and Oxford Circus (which is all generic shopping centre-y and not tourist-y). We haven't damaged anything pretty (although I hope the Oxford Circus riot didn't spread too far along Regent Street, which is pretty).

@Psycho Honey "Maybe if they used their cups 'o tea to dash the flames it be out by now."

Wash your mouth out! That is no way to treat a cuppa (yeah, it's a cuppa, not a "cup o' tea").

@Psycho Honey "Gun control stops nothing. It empowers criminals and weakens otherwise law abiding citizens from defending themselves."
and @Quetzalcoatl "This is why i like the good old US uncle sam,
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Jo Salkilld (Golden Rainbow)

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11 Aug 2011 17:15Link
Nicely put Skander :)

Hugs and respect

Jo