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OK Hefty and Company, hostile bidding (Little Upsilon)

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Laguna

All worlds
28 Jun 2009 02:35Link
This behavior is neither natural or beneficial. It was gained through socialization and continues to be perpetuated in the same manner.

If you don't want a corp in your country, then message him to move. If he doesn't, nationalize the corp. In which manner does attacking or nuking the countries of the CEO improve the situation? From what I've seen, in some cases it only makes it worse, as seen with Highlander.

Rude messages are to be dealt with the Gamemaster, not with nukes.
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WildEyes (Fearless Blue)

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28 Jun 2009 02:41Link
Because we can't all be nice, civilized, first-world UN-card-carrying countries. Some of us have to be hard-liner rogue states. If you want to sit around all day being reasonable and logical, might I recommend a good high-level math book with plenty of problems to occupy your time?


edit: Oooh, nice ninja edit.

"This behavior is neither natural or beneficial. It was gained through socialization and continues to be perpetuated in the same manner. "

Which behavior are you referring to? People becoming unhappy at uninvited bids in their countries or CEOs? It is not impossible that people might actually have reasons for this....
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Laguna

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28 Jun 2009 02:56Link
If it takes so much of you to actually provide a truthful reason, then something is wrong.

I'm actually quite happy by simply being. The rest is just a bonus. This avoids a lot of problems, for what it seems.

People don't deal well with the unexpected. The unnatural thing is how people react. If they were surprised by knife of gun, sure, gutting the guy would be a nice reaction. If the surprise is "let me give you some money" and the guy is gutted... dunno, doesn't sound natural and beneficial.
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Yankee (Fearless Blue)

All worlds
28 Jun 2009 05:48Link
My reason is not only true but valid ...

(You're breathing too much of my air)
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Xenius (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
28 Jun 2009 15:52Link
Maybe the reason is the weird design of this game. You have to get permission to build corp in or relocate corp to a country but you can bid any corp without permission. A new CEO cannot build in a country with a president but can bid any corp. Why not design it so that we have to get permission to bid corps?
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CraftyCockney (Kebir Blue)

All worlds
28 Jun 2009 16:36Link
Let's first repair the game so that a CEO DOES need permission to relocate a corporation to a president controlled country.
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Kiteless (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
28 Jun 2009 17:45Link
<!-Quote-!>Quote:

Let's first repair the game so that a CEO DOES need permission to relocate a corporation to a president controlled country.<!-/Quote-!>



Agreed.

I also think there is another science in evidence here, that being behavioural science.

Players have been declared upon by Federations, particularly large and powerful ones, when they have placed hostile bids on corps. This is as good as an example of the fraternal nature of Federations as you are likely to see in Simcountry IMO.

I don't like hostile bidding as much as the next person doesn't and I would like to see something put in place where permission is required, as Xenius mentioned.
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Yankee (Fearless Blue)

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28 Jun 2009 19:33Link
"I don't like hostile bidding as much as the next person doesn't and I would like to see something put in place where permission is required, as Xenius mentioned."

It's called the "no ceo's allowed" checkbox.
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Kiteless (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
28 Jun 2009 21:26Link
I have the option to nationalise any state corps that I do not wish to receive bids on.

However, my private corps in my enterprises are unprotected from bids, regardless of CEO status in any given country.

This is confirmed in a game news update dated April 14 2009...

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27. Purchasing Private corporations [ top ]

Purchasing corporations is possible if the president of the country where the corporation resides allows it. However, corporations that are already private can now be taken over even if the president does not allow the sale of state corporations in the country.

Corporations that are private do not belong to the president and were taken over before. They can change hands without the president?s consent.

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I would like to see a checkbox that when ticked prevents any private corp from being bid on by anybody if the corp is profitable.

I can see t
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Yankee (Fearless Blue)

All worlds
29 Jun 2009 00:26Link
Hummmm guess I missed that or I'd have been screaming to Wc3.

It's always pissed Wc3 off that people do alot of work setting up closed economy countries.

Either way just let them pay the premium price and tell them to move if they don't, then up the taxes and when the MV drops enough buy it back.

Or better yet simply run nothing but public corps then you can use your empire to drive the stock up so high they can't buy more than a token amount of shares.
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Kiteless (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
29 Jun 2009 01:11Link
I have only ever lost one corp to a "hostile" bid and I wasn't disappointed, angered or frustrated.

I received a handsome reward for a mediocre corp. It would have taken roughly 6 RL months to make the same amount in net profits, based on the corp's performance at that time.

But it would have been nice if the President of the country had messaged me beforehand and asked if it was okay to do so. I would not have declined the request in this instance.

It's the unwelcome bidding without communicating first that seems to irritate players the most.

And don't forget, debt-bombing the corp is also an option if you spot the bid in time
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General Curtis LeMay (Little Upsilon)

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29 Jun 2009 03:11Link
There is only one thing for me, you bid you die! end of story.


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Keto (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
29 Jun 2009 05:05Link
I second that motion.
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Daelin (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
29 Jun 2009 05:41Link
I remember when I first started, I started nationalizing corps left and right in my country, because I wanted to own/control everything in my country. Of course, since then, I've realized how ridiculous that was, and appreciate how well everyone took it. I give people the benefit of the doubt when it happens to me now, remembering how nice people were to me about it; but I can't fault others for their more aggressive stances.
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Pope Samtator IX (White Giant)

All worlds
30 Jun 2009 03:06Link
Death to all who annoy the Samtator.

My communication skills are limited to war declarations.


/me stares at Laguna.


Tom Cruise?