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Laguna

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01 Jul 2009 15:27Link
War has been declared on WildEyes.

This comes as a continuation of the war started in April. Obviously, people do not understand why a Gamemaster stops their wars and do not show appreciation when I halt their banishment.

I've waited until July for a matter of courtesy, as this was the date that was stated, and because neither Wild or myself was around between the two months. Plus, I got injured so I won't be going anywhere soon.

As it is pointless to fight a war without goal, I'll set my goal on reduction and a surprise buttsketch... or several.

The last time I moved to wipe out players was... too long to remember actually. I do remember the scene on WG with Yankee and WGC though. But well, that wasn't the result of my initiative. I just hope my will to continue warring (and waste my time here) will suffice to end before time runs out, as this is a time limited event. I can promise that it will fo
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WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 17:00Link
Mmm. Happy July ;D

edit: although I have to say, 10 years of WP in your war slaves and a bunch of C3s isn't going to impress me. Re-roll?
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Ares (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 17:20Link
o_0
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Laguna

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01 Jul 2009 17:39Link
Would 100 years make you happier? For a very interesting reason, my account has been in war protection since February. Like many of my reasons, it is one not to be shared. This does not thump that reason, specially when it isn't necessary.

If the C3s didn't have their purpose, I wouldn't have them.
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WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 17:47Link
Laguna, no one cares anymore. And no one has time for your attitude on this game. You have idle threats and vague gestures at some kind of special power over the game - then whenever someone mentions it you deny both it and saying anything of the sort.

Of all the "vets" I met when I was beginning you were always the least helpful on all but the most basic knowledge. You are pompous, arrogant, conceited, and moreover deluded in your conception that RL values somehow map on to a game.

But it's good to see you have a fighting side nonetheless, even if the initial salvo is somewhat.... flaccid.


edit: And I should clarify. Person-to-person, you are normally enjoyable, but whenever it comes to SC you are - and moreover act like - a spoiled brat, as far as I can tell because everyone won't go along with your way of playing.
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Laguna

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01 Jul 2009 17:58Link
Yeah, life sucks. But I'm glad no one cares.

But before I start shooting insults, I would check to see if those insults don't apply to me. As people become more pompous, arrogant, conceited, and moreover deluded here, I will become more pompous, arrogant, conceited, and moreover deluded towards them.
You reap what you sow.

As for what powers I have or don't have on the game, it really isn't my fault if I'm on a limbo.
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WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 18:23Link
"Rubber & Glue" is so elementary school...

There was a time, when I was a younger player, that I'll freely admit I acted in all of those ways. You might remember it as the time when Pink nuked the crap out of you (albeit using a bug, yes.) I'll also admit the face I present hasn't always been nice, even all the way up till present; however, I've never attempted to overtly impose my ideas about this game on others.

You however, are marked by this and another crusade in recent memory.

I've shared knowledge all the way up to specific non-public tactics on both war and economy with most who ask. Where Dave, Treasurer, and DGoE left off, I continue to share the knowledge when people ask me.

When people ask me how to fight, I give them the effective tactics that will win wars and how to do it, as long as I've seen someone else do it.

I even told KH what would make good garri
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Ares (Golden Rainbow)

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01 Jul 2009 18:23Link
"But before I start shooting insults, I would check to see if those insults don't apply to me. As people become more pompous, arrogant, conceited, and moreover deluded here, I will become more pompous, arrogant, conceited, and moreover deluded towards them.
You reap what you sow. "

So where exactly do you get your claim that you are a "guardian" of the game and seem to claim moral superiority over the rest of us "selfish" players?
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Laguna

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01 Jul 2009 18:53Link
I never liked using the same pronoun for the the second person of the singular and for the plural. It confuses interpretation.

I can't be marked by anything, as I can't recall much from the past here or anywhere. I didn't even remembered I was nuked. This has nothing to do with past things, but with current things. Circumstances are judged at the light of their time, not before or after.

I'm not attacking you because... you are "temperamental, fickle, and prone to outbursts at stupidity" or because I'm '"dictating how others play the game". If you read my post, you'll see I'm attacking you for a matter of courtesy. You stayed to fight, and I'm honoring that request.

If did dictate my will unto others, you and some others would have been de facto banned from the game in April. However, I changed my mind, and gave you all a chance. Even more, if I did dictate my will, I would have
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Laguna

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01 Jul 2009 19:19Link
Lets think about that last paragraph... People don't speak against me, because they know they won't get a away with it. I've been aware of this for some years now.

The people I speak for, don't speak openly (or at all on the forum) because they wouldn't "get away with it" for what they think or say.

As such, does this make sense now:
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But before I start shooting insults, I would check to see if those insults don't apply to me. As people become more pompous, arrogant, conceited, and moreover deluded here, I will become more pompous, arrogant, conceited, and moreover deluded towards them.
You reap what you sow.<!-/Quote-!>



People message me because they know I'm the only person here who speaks freely and his even-handed.


If people were to play nicely, I would have already finished what begun with my
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WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 19:31Link
I only stayed because there was nothing else to do with cashout disabled. Don't think I stayed for you.

1. And anyone who fears in a game needs to stop playing because they're taking it too serious.

2. To think I'm a guardian of anything but my own interests is absurd

3. I haven't driven a new player off in ages. What drives players off is them being told the game is one thing, simply because they're not on FB. All players need to be educated on the different aspects of the game - even if you don't want to learn how to wage full scale war, you should know how to mount a decent defense. If you don't want to do that, play SimCity, not Simcountry. Or play an enterprise. Or play as a secure mode only. Or play all in WP.

This feeds back into point one: if there are power-wielding warmongers that other players fear, then those players should assert themselves and become strong themselves. Despite wh
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WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 19:35Link
Okay, lets consider this hypothetical "playing nicely."

Can you define what you mean by that?
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Ares (Kebir Blue)

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01 Jul 2009 19:47Link
Please Laguna, do not try to claim that you understand my motives, and that I was "riding a fad." My point in messaging you back then was you were clearly being hypocritical. I have always considered the war part of the game most fun, and you didn't seem to mind my raiding for 6 months until you needed someone to make an example out of.

Note: I also do not attack "New Players." I have my own motivations that may not be up to your "high standards," but when you have infinite resources in real life and in game, game cash, and population, its easy to call other players out for raiding.

Finally:
I firmly believe SNA was much better for the game than Valde ever was during my time on LU. SNA ACTIVELY recruited new members regardless of skill level and taught many basics of the game. There have been no other federations who have maintained so many new players and taught so many the essentials of the game.
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WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 20:13Link
Lol, I gave a new player a 67mil country with 15T cash and 50T mil assets for 50 coins in the past week.

edit: and don't forget whose fed Stu was in... who drove all sorts of players out of NLUO who weren't involved with Hezzy other than that, or didn't know better. That whole affair really bothered me, to the point of setting up a puppet to even the scales in the Hezzy persecution. Alas, Stu quit shortly thereafter. And the GMs knew about my puppet, and were fine with it for that purpose.
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General Curtis LeMay (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 21:04Link
LDI stands with wild. lg your and your feds time has come to an end!


LDI Minister of Peace

jason
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Laguna

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01 Jul 2009 21:14Link
One thing is how things should be, another is how they are.

In here, in Simcountry, because it has become an amalgam of semi-thoughts, processes and systems on a very old and outdate framework, not all things not work as they should. Among those things lies the web of consequences of... well, playing, which is somewhat expected, as W3C tends to overlook it.


As result, yes, some people are afraid to speak, because, as they say, "the game is stuffed with morons and I've paid real money". Little hope in mind to mount an offensive on a "game stuffed with morons" and stay in one likewise.

In RISK, you can play with who you want and for free. At any time, you can leave and lose nothing. However, here, you can't leave as simply as that. Look at your very own case, Wildeyes, you stayed to cash out. It is only normal that players would want to do the same at a time of their own choosing. Also there are players
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CJCS Revival (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 21:18Link
What a drag..
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WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 22:28Link
Ahh, fuck. I think lg might be right.

Just wanted to post that publicly before I went to IRC.

I'll clarify later...
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WildEyes (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 22:34Link
About Akasha: I didn't mean to take her country. I accidentally hit the button out of habit. I reached out afterward... in my own way... and she didn't exactly make me feel sorry for my mistake.
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General Curtis LeMay (Little Upsilon)

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01 Jul 2009 23:54Link
Akasha? meh blow her she bid she died.
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Ares (Fearless Blue)

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02 Jul 2009 00:04Link
First, let me point upwards to when you said "Circumstances are judged at the light of their time, not before or after. "

I do not care how many players you helped before I found simcountry, and it doesn't affect new players now that you are still friends with people like Leen and Xavi. Congratulations Laguna, most of the players you've helped are gone and have NO impact on the game any more.

I do not question your impact on the game, as you are CLEARLY one of the greatest players to play this game. The issue I have with what you are saying has nothing to do with your capabilities.

I know TattooedPriest and John Fire, and consider myself friends with both (and Priest the reason why I decided to pay for simcountry). What they were that you are not is approachable. Its great that you tell someone how to airdrop a unit from time to time, but the reason most people stay in the game long-term is the conta
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Laguna

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02 Jul 2009 00:54Link
I'll be patient and explain.


In July or June of 2007, I ceased to play. Still logged in, talked with people, but I reduced my participation and I hardly ever since did maintenance on my account. The only thing in my interest since then was my job has a moderator, a plan to fix Simcountry and later on the war engine when it was introduced.

From that moment on, you will do best to assume I quite simply ceased to be a player. My time from there on, was passed. Plus, to be a moderator I had to maintain a certain distance from every player to avoid bias.

You were attacked after my entire account went into War Protection in the beginning of February. Understand that it went into WP, because I have a busy life out of here, and for some months on, it takes a real lot out of me to war here. Also, I only read your message three days after you sent it. Had you sent to my account, instead of my country, I would have read it before. I
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Ares (Fearless Blue)

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02 Jul 2009 01:02Link
Laguna, I was one of the two players who ran SNA.

I am not comparing my situation to Chucks whatsoever, I just am stating that it was the first time you noticed that I raided players.

I am not complaining that you didn't help me against 3ms. I again was just pointing out that others obviously noticed my raiding far before you did.

If you do not "play" this game any more. Perhaps you could try to help it by working for the sc staff instead of trying to "move to wipe out" players.

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Again, I do not care what you did before I started playing, just as players who are new today do not care. Your impact on the game is large, your influence on whether people stay any more is virtually non-existant. I am glad you say Valde helps players, but the truth is, Valde is you, Martock, and Michael that are anywhere near active and long-tenured players.

It is and was quite clear that SNA was a fe
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General Curtis LeMay

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02 Jul 2009 01:21Link
what this shows us all is that you and your fed can not be trusted to keep its word. my time is short atm, but know that you now face all of LDI. the the war will not end till you come to talk to me, LDI's Minister of Peace! have fun getting gang banged.

LDI Minister of Peace

jason
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Laguna

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02 Jul 2009 01:39Link
I must be hearing an echo.

Me: "My time from there on, was passed."
Echo: "While its time may have passed, so too has your time"

Me: "If people were to play nicely, I would have already finished what begun with my modship"
Echo: "working for the sc staff"

Wipping out the right players and helping the game, at the moment, are synonyms. Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing this.


Jason, rest assured, that you will be gone from the game one way or another, and there was nothing you could do to avoid it.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, this isn't "Laguna & and his fed". This is just Laguna and whoever wishes to join.