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Christos
19 Aug 2013 16:01 Link
What a nice topic!
@ P. Bauer: Germany's navy never matched the British navy, even though Germany's late 19th-early 20th century attempt to build a navy (and the subsequent arms race) was in fact a serious factor that lead to the war. Don't forget that Britain ruled about 1/3 of the world back then solely based on her naval force. Even with so many ships away around the world, their Home Fleet was sufficient to keep the entire German Fleet at bay.

You have a point in stating that Germany didn't need rebuilding after WW1 but it is a fact that american capital and loans were the main factor of the economy boom in 1926-1928. In fact Germany was the only european country to be so badly damaged from the crash of 1929 exactly because so much american capital was withdrawed and this lead to high unemployment and, sadly, Hitler.

After WW2 american capital (along with immigrant gastarbeiter) was the main reason of West Germany's economic recovery, along of course with the renowned discipline, ability and organisation of german people themselves. This of course was due to the US - USSR conflict and dodn't come out of some humanitarian urge of Mr Truman. But the fact remains: if you compare Bohn and Munich to East Berlin and Dresden you see how good it was to have the Americans by your side during the first 20 years after WW2.
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Christos
19 Aug 2013 16:03 Link
P.S.

The whole US-Canadian war games and scenarios really remind me of a South Park episode, where the US decide to bomb Canada because of Brian Adams or something (or was it because Canadians bombed the Baldwins' Mansion in Hollywood, CA?)
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Prince Alexzander Cameron
19 Aug 2013 19:25 Link
ik what episode ur talking about.....

The guy was making kids rebellious against their parents who were complaining and stuff so America decided that it was a Canadian scheme to make the kids revolt and bring down the country. thus they decided to kill him and the crew decided to save him taking them literally to hell and back.
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Prince Alexzander Cameron
19 Aug 2013 19:30 Link
"at least you knew who the enemy was, and little wannabe rogue nuke countries weren't so uppity."

*COUGH COUGH* North Korea *COUGH COUGH*
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Nico
19 Aug 2013 21:10 Link
Did you ever notice North Korea and Israel have the same personality? North Korea wants to attack the US. Israel wants to attack Syria, Iran, Lebanon, and 100 other countries and expects the US to back them up. If I were Obama, I would forget about everyone and go to isolation. But no. We are MERCIA! :(
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thewhy
22 Aug 2013 07:41 Link
north Korea is a cult of personality dictatorship and abuser of human rights that spews out incredible lies their national animal is a unicorn

Israel is a reasonable state amidst a sea of enemies who routinely use Israel as their scapegoat

Israel does not want to attack 100 other countries they want to survive
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maclean
22 Aug 2013 12:20 Link
Nico, your assertion that Israel wants to attack all her neighbors is a total fiction, and cannot be supported by one shred of evidence. To compare North Korea to Israel in the same breath is ludicrous. Name the other 97 countries that you say Israel wants to attack.
@Prince Alex: Ha, you got it! and throw Iran in there, too...
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Shu Pei
18 Aug 2015 03:15 Link
Hi we ran some Tests, their was a person shot at Flashpoint.
Their was an affront two Indignacys. And some thing had gone on at the mutual of Authoritarian Sea.
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Samael Solemn Thresher
18 Aug 2015 07:51 Link
A few things to ponder...

- German, English and Russian royal monarchs were all cousins. The royal houses were not interested in a war between their nations, but the beaurocracy of their alliances, bad blood between Germany and France, a stupid Archduke and a bumbling assassin caused the destruction of European power for the next fifty years and sparked the events of the next century.

- American involvement probably did tip the scales in the first world war, despite their modest commitment.
Both the allies and axis in ww1 were spent forces after four years of grinding each other into mince.
The allied powers had more manpower, but germany had actually proven their capability in warfare in the last two wars with france(look it up... the french had a bad reputation for losing before both world wars).

-Germany had the advantage of better military leadership and forward thinking in tactics. They weren't opposed to new ideas like the allies were, and it showed at the beginning of both world wars. It took years before the allies woke up and realized that they were not going to win by throwing men at the Germans. They had to catch up in tecnology and tactics, and when they did, it was only a matter of time until numbers were going to add up.
I think the biggest factor was that the war had hit the point where Germany had finally run out of able bodied men to put into the fight. They lost their military advantages.
Despite having crushed the Russian army in a series of fortunous events, They failed to seize the initiative in belgium, and that had ended their chance to end the war in france. The war went into stalemate and it was only a matter of time before one side or another would run out of fight.
France, England and Russia made very serious blunders that cost them in both world wars. But in the end, Germany couldn't seize the initiative and end the war quickly. Once their chance was gone, it was only a matter of time.

We won by default, at full time whistle.

- America did nothing to rebuild Germany after the war. In fact all the allied powers forced crippling conditions on Germany after the surrender.
This is probably the most important reason why the Germans fell under the Nazi influence two decades on, and American aid flooded into Germany after the second world war. Europe and America could not afford to go back to another world war, despite having to prepare for one with Russia this time.


- Germany paid back the money it owed for the first world war in the seventies, and was tecnically absolved of its ww2 debt about a decade later.
England finally paid off its last IOU around about 2000-2010.