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auditor
All worlds
20 Jun 2024 18:12Link
This may or may not be intentional by design but I just don't know anymore so figured I should ask a question that I have had for a few years. I'm not asking Andy to disclose any formulas or inner workings of the game, I just would like to know if the math on the Health Index calculation is actually intentional or an error.
With the other main government indexes, their calculations follow a predictable and very simple math path, where Health bucks the trend. All I am asking is if it is intended, I am not calling for changes for the love of god please don't make some radical sudden change in response to this question or take offense to it being asked.
Here is a number by number example of what I am referring to:
Elementary Schools Needed - 35075
Elementary Schools on Hand - 76113
Elementary School Index - 217
Roads Needed - 290344
Roads on Hand - 586495
Roads Index - 202
Finance Income -
With the other main government indexes, their calculations follow a predictable and very simple math path, where Health bucks the trend. All I am asking is if it is intended, I am not calling for changes for the love of god please don't make some radical sudden change in response to this question or take offense to it being asked.
Here is a number by number example of what I am referring to:
Elementary Schools Needed - 35075
Elementary Schools on Hand - 76113
Elementary School Index - 217
Roads Needed - 290344
Roads on Hand - 586495
Roads Index - 202
Finance Income -
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James Folsom
All worlds
20 Jun 2024 23:43Link
Thanks, auditor it was on my todo list, just not very high.
I suspect it's intentional, and is tied in some way to population age distribution. But, haven't gotten to checking that hypothesis.
It would have been sensible to bake in such a relationship so that if you got a lot old people, you need more healthcare. This something I would have expected to be there from the beginning.
If Andy doesn't respond, I will move it up my list of things to figure out.
I suspect it's intentional, and is tied in some way to population age distribution. But, haven't gotten to checking that hypothesis.
It would have been sensible to bake in such a relationship so that if you got a lot old people, you need more healthcare. This something I would have expected to be there from the beginning.
If Andy doesn't respond, I will move it up my list of things to figure out.
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James Folsom
All worlds
22 Jun 2024 01:02Link
It's obviously intended. This post is a repeat of the chat, with further calculation example.
After excluding, the outliers that have been losing or gaining hospitals at regular pace (eg, those where the health index is lagging due to moving average calculation)
As you can see (Have/Need) = (Health index) until 125 (regression says), Then above 125 it requires increasingly more hospitals to raise the index a defined amount.
I took a regression of the straight part of the line, and then transformed it to get the equation for calculating the required (have/need) to achieve a desired health index. Its complicated, and I'm not going to try to describe it unless someone realllly wants to know.
(have/need*100)=(desired Health index*1.3455)-43.38
Using Auditor's provided example, where 196
After excluding, the outliers that have been losing or gaining hospitals at regular pace (eg, those where the health index is lagging due to moving average calculation)
As you can see (Have/Need) = (Health index) until 125 (regression says), Then above 125 it requires increasingly more hospitals to raise the index a defined amount.
I took a regression of the straight part of the line, and then transformed it to get the equation for calculating the required (have/need) to achieve a desired health index. Its complicated, and I'm not going to try to describe it unless someone realllly wants to know.
(have/need*100)=(desired Health index*1.3455)-43.38
Using Auditor's provided example, where 196
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James Folsom
All worlds
22 Jun 2024 20:35Link
After some further input (angry criticism). I went over to LU to diversify my dataset
| Country # | Have | need | Have | Health | Delta |
| /Name | /Need | Index | |||
| 1205 | 169 | 188 | 89.89361702 | 90.24 | -0.346382979 |
| 3033 | 205 | 224 | 91.51785714 | 91.62 | -0.102142857 |
| 2115 | 2807 | 2887 | 97.2289574 | 97.46 | -0.231042605 |
| 1554 | 236 | 220 | 107.2727273 | 107.36 | -0.087272727 |
| Hymyland | 711 | 580 | 122.5862069 | 122.65 | -0.063793103 |
| 472 | 298 | 242 | 123.1404959 | 123.35 | -0.209504132 |
| LU701 | 1275 | 973 | 131.0380267 |
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James Folsom
All worlds 22 Jun 2024 20:38Link
Forum malfunctioned.
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Andy
All worlds 24 Jun 2024 14:16Link
The health index is not linear.
if you double the number of hospitals, the index will not double. it is close to linear at low levels, it is getting further from linear as the numbers increase. as far as I remember, this is true to more than one index at higher levels. |
