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Unsthable
All worlds
08 Oct 2023 20:52Link
It has been brought up by multiple players and is worth bringing up again in the current game climate, spending space. In short as many have mentioned, spending space is prohibitively small for established players, especially with the current wind production system that has been pushed.
With Wind Turbines in such extreme shortage the only feasible method forward is having WT corporations on hand and setting local production contracts to the state. I have a country with 80 Wind Turbine corporations churning them out to maintain current farms and further farm production, and even at low quality it is almost completely chewing through the spending space limit by themselves. Last month after contracts executed left the country with a spending space of -229.80B. This month after contracts left the country with -180.58B spending space. No additional major purchases were made to manipulate the spending space downward, there were a couple contracts al
With Wind Turbines in such extreme shortage the only feasible method forward is having WT corporations on hand and setting local production contracts to the state. I have a country with 80 Wind Turbine corporations churning them out to maintain current farms and further farm production, and even at low quality it is almost completely chewing through the spending space limit by themselves. Last month after contracts executed left the country with a spending space of -229.80B. This month after contracts left the country with -180.58B spending space. No additional major purchases were made to manipulate the spending space downward, there were a couple contracts al
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Andy
All worlds
15 Oct 2023 12:07Link
We have used the spending space intensively in recent weeks because of the need to ship products to TA.
The spending limit goes upto 1.6 trillion.
Just now, we saw that the spending limit was good for 15000 wind turbines.
we bought 1500 with immediate orders.
(this should not be possible because it delays delivery to everybody else).
The limit for wind farms is 5000 but I have advised not to do so and said, it will be unsustainable.
You will need 5000 wind turbines per month, which is the production of 250 wind turbine corporations. Maintenance cost will be 500B.
even 500 will be difficult, and then, if this becomes easily possible, electric power price will plunge and all will go bankrupt.
- The spending space is larger with larger population numbers.
- Spending space accumulates quickly. 1.6T is very very high.
- Spending space is open for discussion but the 5000 wind farms cann
The spending limit goes upto 1.6 trillion.
Just now, we saw that the spending limit was good for 15000 wind turbines.
we bought 1500 with immediate orders.
(this should not be possible because it delays delivery to everybody else).
The limit for wind farms is 5000 but I have advised not to do so and said, it will be unsustainable.
You will need 5000 wind turbines per month, which is the production of 250 wind turbine corporations. Maintenance cost will be 500B.
even 500 will be difficult, and then, if this becomes easily possible, electric power price will plunge and all will go bankrupt.
- The spending space is larger with larger population numbers.
- Spending space accumulates quickly. 1.6T is very very high.
- Spending space is open for discussion but the 5000 wind farms cann
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Unsthable
All worlds
15 Oct 2023 16:46Link
There's a few things to unwrap here, so I'll just go through it point by point responding to what you've said. Again, this is not an attempt to pick on you. This is a desire to have a true and informed discussion about the game.
You said you have used the spending space intensively and the limit goes up to 1.6T. I very well could be wrong so feel free to correct me, but it does not seem that the 1.6T resets every month and is just an upper cap for rolling over unspent spending. Just watched one of my country's spending space jump from 426.99B to 958.35B on month turnover (before contracts execute) with no orders made. With a country of ~ 80m.
The Wind Farm limit of 5000 that you have set and then told people not to do. Proof of this can only be found in the forum and by searching specifically for it. Vague game update notes posted only in the forum can't be expected to be memorized and followed by player
You said you have used the spending space intensively and the limit goes up to 1.6T. I very well could be wrong so feel free to correct me, but it does not seem that the 1.6T resets every month and is just an upper cap for rolling over unspent spending. Just watched one of my country's spending space jump from 426.99B to 958.35B on month turnover (before contracts execute) with no orders made. With a country of ~ 80m.
The Wind Farm limit of 5000 that you have set and then told people not to do. Proof of this can only be found in the forum and by searching specifically for it. Vague game update notes posted only in the forum can't be expected to be memorized and followed by player
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Daniel Iceling
All worlds
16 Oct 2023 01:47Link
Spending space caps are important to limit the size of orders that rich players can place on the open markets, because large orders can create sudden extreme shortages, and prevent other players from buying the goods they need.
However, I don't see the need to include contracts in this limit. Contracts are conducted off market, so they don't create market disruption in the way that large manual orders do. I'd recommend removing contracts from the spending space limits, while keeping the limits on manual purchase orders, to prevent market disruption.
However, I don't see the need to include contracts in this limit. Contracts are conducted off market, so they don't create market disruption in the way that large manual orders do. I'd recommend removing contracts from the spending space limits, while keeping the limits on manual purchase orders, to prevent market disruption.
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Andy
All worlds
16 Oct 2023 09:31Link
We will not remove all contracts from the spending space as it will allow for unlimited spending that we have explained, is counter productive.
We will look at the possibility to exampt many product contracts, icluding food and many other products that are used by the population.
These products will not include weapons and ammo (that are already part of a different spending space), but rather essentail products that you want countries to be able to keep purchasing.
This will remove most of the problems.
As to the 5000 wind farms, it is the same as buying 100.000.000 batteries of some kind, which is possible, no limits, but if you do, you will go bankrupt.
You can also build 100.000 space centers, no limits, and you will destroy the country.
This entire problem came up with the wind energy.
It could come up with the purchasing of 1.000.000 universities, but no one tried to do it.
This is p
We will look at the possibility to exampt many product contracts, icluding food and many other products that are used by the population.
These products will not include weapons and ammo (that are already part of a different spending space), but rather essentail products that you want countries to be able to keep purchasing.
This will remove most of the problems.
As to the 5000 wind farms, it is the same as buying 100.000.000 batteries of some kind, which is possible, no limits, but if you do, you will go bankrupt.
You can also build 100.000 space centers, no limits, and you will destroy the country.
This entire problem came up with the wind energy.
It could come up with the purchasing of 1.000.000 universities, but no one tried to do it.
This is p
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Andy
All worlds
31 Dec 2023 10:20Link
We have looked again into the spending space issue.
As we said before, contracts must remain within the spanding space but
we will increase the spending space and especially for countries with large population, it should go higher.
this change will be part of one of the next two upgrades.
As we said before, contracts must remain within the spanding space but
we will increase the spending space and especially for countries with large population, it should go higher.
this change will be part of one of the next two upgrades.
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Andy
All worlds
24 Mar 2024 18:02Link
We have substantially increased the spending space, mainly for large population countries but also in all other countries although by a smaller margin.
We do not see any new complaints about the spending space.
Please let us know if the problem is now resolved.
We do not see any new complaints about the spending space.
Please let us know if the problem is now resolved.