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Zens Selling Thread

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papastorm

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20 Nov 2016 00:15Link
I'll take all of them. I sent you a message.
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Psycho_Honey

All worlds
25 Nov 2016 12:41Link
I'll take them all for 100gc total. That would require selling them to me one by one for 100 gc each and you buying my c3s to keep the exchange even. Sounds good? I would like to do this as soon as possible.
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Zen

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25 Nov 2016 19:16Link
Papastorm is giving me 750gc for them and the third one isn't being sold anymore.
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Psycho_Honey

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26 Nov 2016 06:59Link
750GC for 2 countries? Ludicrous. I understand they have some value, but that is way too much. If you want to benefit the game, build them up with your methods and sell them to players who may stick around in the game at a discount. Call it community service.
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Zen

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27 Nov 2016 20:54Link
It takes me a while to build them and the cost it takes for me to build their corporations/infrastructure and military weapons lost from c3 wars is too much for me to sell them at a dirt price. No one else is selling countries often, so currently I have no competition and I set my prices at what I feel is fair. If I get competition and have no buyers I may lower prices.
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Zen

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27 Nov 2016 20:58Link
100 gc for around 300 million population is insanely low. It costs 1800gc for 300 million population if bought from the gm. So 900gc would be 3gc per million population for 300 million population. I sold my countries at 2.5gc per million population which I believe is pretty low.

Not to mention the cost of military assets lost due to c3 wars and corporations. If I sold a very large country with all state owned corporations the player can increase corporate value beyond a hundred trillion.

The only alternative is a SC$ payout. One trillion per 500k population. so if the country has 200 million people I'd expect 100T SC$. The player can make most of that back with the shares of the corporations in the country or simply keep the corporations without selling shares. This is a great way for econ players, or players short on gc to get large countries without using gc for them. How it works is simple. They set up a small slave with 100T in it
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Psycho_Honey

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28 Nov 2016 03:22Link
Seems a bit complex for something like that. Lots of ifs, ands, and buts. Leaving far too much room for error. Space is unnecessary for this process. Am I missing something?

The 100T in SC$ is fine, even 200T for the right country with good demographics. But the Gold Coin has a value that is far above and beyond what the exchange rate is. You show a lot of potential Zen, but let's not put anyone here who doesn't really understand value under any illusions.

I am a magician, I can create money in SC with relative ease. Many others all over the forum have given examples of how to do it as well. Overpaying in SC$'s is totally easy to overlook because of the possibility to create it within the game. In fairness, This is a good medium of exchange because you are giving something created within the game for something created within the game. Currently, GC are converted to Cash, a tiny unimpressive and extremely wasteful sum is what
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Zen

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29 Nov 2016 20:08Link
Well if that's the case maybe we need competition. As of now I am the only one actively doing this. The process is very simple it just requires some time and SC$.

I posted a guide on how to do this, and it is pretty simple. I'm sure before I posted that guide players have been doing it for years. So why isn't anyone else using this to sell their own countries? If a player dedicated about an hour a day attacking 5 countries every day or two and taking 5 minutes every day per 4 hours on their phone/computer transferring population they could transfer up to 12 million population a day( which is almost impossible I know ). Within 20 days you can have a 240 million population country, and most players will buy it for 400gc+.

A large country with state owned corporations is worth hundreds of trillions of SC$. Currently the market for gc in electric power is roughly around 250B SC$ per gc. 400gc is worth around 100T SC$.
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Psycho_Honey

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30 Nov 2016 00:19Link
We know you aren't here to make it easier for anyone else. This attitude prevails. I find it interesting given some of your previous statements. I'm all for making a buck, but you are getting over big time. Let me know when you start selling cars, I'll send someone I don't like your way to buy one from you. BTW, I can't read essays. Stop trying to explain value to me as if I have been playing for 10 days now with no previous experience. I appreciate the effort though, however right you think you are.
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Zen

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30 Nov 2016 05:18Link
Okay.
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Zentrino

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30 Nov 2016 21:12Link
I have purchased countries from Zen. I have felt I have paid a fair price every time. I don't want the hassle of building a country with a large population because I don't want to log on every day multiple times a day for weeks on end. I appreciate that he does it and then sells the country to me at a good and fair gc price. I know I could do it myself but I won't. I could change own oil too, but I always take the car to the shop and pay. Sometimes it is just easier and worth it to do it that way.