Peace on White Giant (White Giant)

Following a war between Trinitrotoluene and the WGC federation, both sides have now reached a peace agreement, effective immediately.

Agreed

Well, at least they didn't drag everyone else into the war. By the way, why did this war start?

The island on Centura Donna > Austral Bergo.

He wanted the whole thing.

Greed is a sin mates

So is talking about things you ought not!

Care to explain that last statement?

No need to explain, the statement was clear.

As actually wasn't clear at all.

You should be a politician.

No, I don't think it was clear.

I was under the impression, from your last PM, that we had moved on from the peace agreement. You yourself said that once the decs ended and all wars ceased, that was the end of the cease fire. And that there was something else you had decided you wanted and, if we didn't roll over and give it to you, we were at war again.

In which case the terms of the agreement, including the clause that neither of us would speak in public about the war, no longer stand.

Are you saying that isn't the case?

GREED IS A SIN MATES (666)

Lol Obie

HaHa, wow. Obviously this is a major case of 'reading between the lines!

First of all, your quote is completely out of context, but anyway, no need to make all that public is there?

Obie made the statement that 'Greed is sin'. He made a rather simple statement. I said 'So was talking of things you ought not'. Again another simple statement. Because just as Greed is sin, then isn't slander or gossip sinful?

I did not speak of the 'war' on the forum. The statement was not to you nor did it have ANYTHING to do with a 'war'. Its amazing that you got the impression that it did from such a simple statement.

Although simple, his statement "Greed is sin" I believe was directed at "The island on Centura Donna > Austral Bergo. He wanted the whole thing. " So it would be only natural to relate your comment to his comment, and thus back on the topic of 'war'. Rocket surgery it would seem.

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Where is this slanderous comment you are referring to? You wanting the island is gossip and slander? or does it not have anything to do with this topic at all.

Hush, dont inflame your hostilities again. I must agree with TNT that I interpreted his comment exactly as he explains following Obies comment. In fact, I deserve the same comment, for talking about things that I ought not. So I'll shut up again, sorry folks!

So, was Obies comment about greed referring to me? HaHa. If so, then possibly my comment was referring to Obie.

Forum banter... can be kinda fun cant it?

Crafty, you're Crafty. I agree with everything you just said.

Maybe a little off topic, but does anyone live in a country that isn't going through summer and has a spare bedroom?

Come on over Pencil. Bring a good coat.

Extra Negative

It is strange another player rumored to be a former member of the mob attacking WGC again. This is strikingly surprising. Or not.

Maybe I missed something here, but is that federation (White Giant Commonwealth) not supposed to be attacked by anyone? Are they playing the same game as I am? I was under the assumption when I started this game that war is a real possibility in this game. I think that's what they made all these weapons for isn't it? I don't know, maybe I'm "going out on a limb" here! They have even made provisions for those who do not wish to participate in war, so if you don't want war, then take advantage of those provisions. Correct?

I'm not whoever you call the 'mob'. I assume they are a federation. I'm just playing the game for fun.

LOL Trinitrotoluene. Disingenuous to a T.

Are you really going to pretend you don't even know who the mob 'were'? That you're not one of those players, masquerading under a different name? Don't forget, I had quite a few dealings with you all last time around. Which one are you? I'm guessing at Serpent. Possibly Whiteboy, but unlikely as he had more ethics and a better writing-style.

Are you really so desperate to start afresh that you're going to deny it? If so, you shouldn't just change your name. You need to change your communication and playing-style as well, and disguise your war expertise. It was clear from your PMs that you knew who WGC are and what happened last time around. And no one who is new to the game, or even relatively experienced, is at WL7 on FB and knows the current war engine that well ...

In answer to your question: no, WGC is not a federation that is 'not supposed to be attacked'. But we are a federation that respects others' enjoyment of the game, the choices people make in their interaction with others and which tries to help new players. That kept our newer members safe for a number of years. But then, this used to be a game where wars were fought over actions, insults and grudges, not just because a strong player wanted to take what a newer player had.

Are you aware, 'Trinitrotoluene', that a fairly long-term player has quit the game because you appeared out of the blue while he was away and took his empire out of greed? Or that he was at WL3 because he was assigned that WL when they were first introduced, not because he chose to be there, whereas you were at WL3 purely because your new account registered that you had not visited WG before? Of course you are. You betrayed your origins to the rest of the community in your last post. There is only one group of players I know of who used to think driving players out of the game was 'fun'.

By all means, defend your actions, but don't try to pretend you're not who you are. That's just an admission that you got it wrong last time, at which point, why are you still doing it?

Wow, alot of assuming going on. Your story has many holes in it, here are just a few:

Did I say I did not know who the MOB was? NO! You assumed that. I simply said I am not the MOB.

Have I denied that I have played this game before? NO! You assumed that.

Did I say I didn't know who WGC is? NO! You assumed that. The question was rhetorical.

You also said one of the 3 players I attacked was a long term player, so obviously they have experience with the game for at least since the time of the war levels. Is that a new player? Could they have possibly bought war protection? Isn't that a provision that the GM has made for those that do not want to war? Your fed and I are making use of that provision right now, aren't we?

Did I gang up on anybody or was it one player with 3 countries against 3 more players with 15-20 countries? If you would have kicked my butt would it then have been fun to take a 90M+ pop country with several hundred T in mili in it?

Where have I been 'unethical'?

Did I really come out of the blue? I was there for months before I attacked. The stats that are published on WG showed me high in the military percentage. Is that 'sneaking' up?

What makes you think it was 'greed'. Why do you assume it wasn't for fun. If it was greed, wouldn't I have stripped your country that you dec'd me with? Or even took and stripped the other country you dec'd me with? After all they were rather nice countries exceeding 100M pop each.

So please don't assume what my intentions are or why I do what I do. I have no need to 'defend' my actions... just my countries.

Actually, yes, you did say you did not know who the mob was:

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"I assume they are a federation" says very clearly that you do not know this to be a fact. That is the only reason that you would be obliged to "assume".

And it wasn't an 'assumption' on my part that you did it out of greed. You wanted the island - a key strategic location since it cannot be attacked overland - you made that quite clear to me on a number of occasions. But if you'd rather everybody thought that you just wanted the 'fun' of spoiling someone else's game, then have it your own way.

You, too, are making assumptions from my post. I didn't suggest that you said you didn't know who WGC are. I said it was clear from your PMs that you knew who we are in terms of what happened last time around. I also didn't say you were unethical, I said that Whiteboy had better ethics.

Interestingly, having implied (but not actually confirmed) that you have played the game before, you still haven't said what your name was then. What was it and, more importantly, why are you so keen to dissociate yourself from it?