White Giant Peace security

The Nations of UCM (drys0013), East Heaven Kingdom( Tailisbeth), and The United Empire of Peragus (Nico) have all been granted permission to station troops in The Empire of Metudela(me).

Taili will represent the Union, Nico will represent BME, and Drys will be a neutral participant. This will work as a deterrent to further conflict between BME and the UNION.

Do all parties agree to this?

Yes. I'll be happy to have a meeting too

We will have to discuss this strange proposal involving 2 more parties than the already involved in the issue... Why UCM? This is not his business. Nor does it concern him or his federation whatsoever. A meeting? heh, hopefully the ones planning it will actually PLAN it and not blame a failure on us. We will attend meetings, nothing is promised, but the date and time has to be set. The Federal Membership will drop in at their pleasing if they wish. The proposal above will be discussed in the Federation. Honourable Lisbeth will decide if she will provide that service or not IF we approve the mentioned proposal...

I hope another member of the WG Cowboys will be present in a meeting other than Nico... Things with this guy always go wrong. Not to ruin the "Fun" or anything...

1.) Because UCM is already allowed in my country so I figured I may as well throw him in.

2.) Nico suggested the meeting not me, I didn't even mention one.

I am trying to help put everything behind your two federations but you always seem to have something to complain about Wolfker.


Possibility of a meeting:
Proposed Participants
Kirk of BME
Nico of BME
two other BME member
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Wolfker of the UNION
Lisbeth of the Union
Space of the Union
Dyna of the Union
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Myself

I'll host the meeting on Chatzy and send Nico, and yourself the meeting link. The link will be given to the above participants, and a date and time will be set for all participants to meet. There no a meeting has been proposed.

Yeah, I like to complain for our well being, Ian. BME is virtually in-existent in WG. And yeah, that part of the meeting was obviously directed at him... I would like to add Ardglass to our participants. Nico is not even part of the BME any more, he is in a Federation called the WG Cowboys, we would like a member from that Federation, preferably Wisco or Hello Kitty if possible.

A meeting should be set for this evening just as a test.... If possible, at around 7 Central or later.

Possibility of a meeting:
Proposed Participants
Kirk of BME
Nico of BME/WG COWBOYS
Wisco of WG Cowboys
Hello Kitty of WG Cowboys
member of either Cowboys or BME
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Wolfker of the UNION
Lisbeth of the Union
Space of the Union
Dyna of the Union
Ardglass of the Union
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Myself

enough

^^?

Anyway... The BME is no longer in WG, we see no point in representing them and I desire an explanation as to why Nico doesn't want Wisco or Hello Kitty in a meeting...

I hate to inform you, but BME is still very much present in WG. Also, would like to point out that Nico gave me a link to this so-called meeting, that I had no clue to what I was even entering. If he called it, and he is my partner in the game, it would stand to reason that he would want me there.

I also want to point out that I have never been treated so rudely in this game by members of The Union. There was no reason to kick me from the meeting.

Again, I state, if you are wanting to be diplomatic and gain respect, then please treat people with respect, especially a leader/founder of another federation. You will last longer. Remember, your actions not only affect you in one world, but across all worlds. Again, my parting advice to you in a game where it is soooooo important to not offend others.

By the way Ian, it's not really a "peace" meeting if you threaten to get Aries and Serpent on me. Now is it? And yes, Ian. I DID want a meeting. Under MY terms. Not yours. Due to the fact you have the tendency to erase messages. So please explain your self. Thanks

P.S I invited Jan. She IS part of BME and she should be part of it. You don't see us excluding members of The Union, now do you? She is my friend and ally. You WILL accept her or forget about the meeting. And THAT is another reason why I want to start the meeting, not Ian. Oh and Ian, I asked Madison if she would hit me and she said no. So please don't bring her up just cause you don't have one . Thanks

Ian Cameron, just please stop with your pitiful threats and poor behavior. You do your federation, The Union, no good whatsoever.

Furthermore, you honestly think that Aries and Serpent would involve themselves for YOU? I don't think so. I think you forget that Nico, the one you are threatening, IS a member of their federation on Fearless Blue, not to mention that BME is a sister federation of HYDRA. Aries and Serpent both have been VERY instrumental in helping me form BME. I have played alongside Serpent in this game for many years and have been federated with him. You also forget that Jackseptic, a personal friend of mine and member of Hydra, was very prepared to come join me on WG to go after The Union. I have also served alongside Jack in a federation. We go back many, many years.

Also, Hydra are the good guys in this game. They won't involve themselves in idiocy, like what you are doing.

I am planning on reti

I was being sarcastic Nico, and you know that. As for Jan, she stated she was "retiring" from the game and was just going to "lounge" in the forums and chat. and Last I was told she left Bme and you were kicked from it. Either way it was a test to see if people would actually show up and not a actual meeting.

I erased the messages between me and you because they were simply me asking if Kirk, Wisco, and Hello kitty were online. You said Kirk wasn't and that Kitty and Wisco were not aloud. That is all I erased.

I didn't bring Madison up because I don't have a gf, I brought her up as a joke, just like with Serp and Aries.

I set two terms during the meeting, and that was BME/Coywboys don't bad mouth the Union, and vice versa. I said those were the basic terms and for you and Wolfker to add your own terms and that we would sort it out in the end.

I kicked Jan from the chat because in my exper

It is my chat room, the people I invite were the people allowed, if I didn't invite them then they were not to be there. You are once again over re-acting jan, I rejoined the Union late last night under strict rules where I must keep a cool head and not insult anyone in chat or on the forums, I am not aloud to enter Chat under other alias (never planned on it), etc, etc.

Now all the sudden since you are on the spot light, you say it's a joke. Oh and everything you all the sudden bring up is a joke? So how do we know this meeting is a joke? Eh? I will be working on the next meeting and Ian is banned. He is neither in The Union and not in BME. Therefore he has no business in this meeting. Also, you, Ian should be worried about ME not jan. I am war level 3, NOT jan. And Serp and Aries are not just LU people, Serp I believe is on most planets and Aries is also on Fearless Blue. So learn you facts

Oh so you are in The Union. Well you are still not allowed

I brought up Madison, Serpent, and Aries as a joke. I put lol afterwards to show I was joking. The meeting was once again a test to see if people would show up. I've been complaining about the Union and BMEs conflicts for days, the peace meeting is no joke.

Well Ian,

I hate to inform you, but I am still a co-leader of BME. I founded the federation and Nico is my friend and a partner with me and Kirk in the federation. Whether I am located on WG is inconsequential, as I still am a leader of ALL matters relative to BME. Again, just goes to show your ignorance of the game and how it works.

Well congratulations, you haven't even been a rejoining member of The Union for 12 hours and you have offended me.

Furthermore, you say I overreacted? You are the one who kicked me from the meeting (a federated leader) for no reason, whatsoever. Again, not very smart.

I really feel for The Union. They keep trying with players like you, but you will only bring them continued strife and worry.

The Union's issues are Nico and which ever Fed he is in. This is now WG Cowboys and not BME. Thus only members of Wg Cowboys and the Union should be in the meeting not members of BME.

WG Cowboys:
Tutonic Knights
Meep
Live Action
Diesel
Sconnie
Wisco
The United Empire of Peragus

These are the people the Union wants to meet with, not Bme. The Union has no issues with the Wg Cowboys, but they need to meet with them to discuss how to co-exist without conflict.

But I will cease, and allow Wolfker to explain.

There is no need for Wolfker to explain anything. I have read enough from you. Here is my stance after my discussion with Nico this morning:

Nico will no longer enter into ANY discussions of peace or anything with The Union as long as Ian Cameron is a member of said group.

Nico is a representative of BME and not the WG Cowboys. I need to make that very clear. His allegiance is to me and Kirk. We are family.

*THIS ISSUE IS BEING DEALT WITH IN PRIVATE*

No it is not

There is nothing else to deal with, Ian Cameron. I have posted above our stance. I have nothing further to say on the issue.

We do not desire relations with the BME, that means we don't want to see Nico, period.

Talks with WG Cowboys are under way.

It is standard protocol to kick players from meetings, we know they may be spies under other alias, you were not, but you were affected by said protocol.

We do not WANT any discussions with the BME, I believe I made that VERY, VERY clear in a few posts back. The negotiations are with the WG COWBOYS, we don't want ANYTHING, ANYTHING, with the BME, a Federation that has caused most of the Union's problems in its 300 year old existence. We do not mind if we have no further meetings, we do NOT CARE. I AM TIRED OF THIS NONSENSE. We are aware of intelligence from the WG Cowboys that Nico won't be necessary in the near future. He will not participate in future meetings with the WG Cowboys and will not be recognised as a member of such.

Good Day, I hope I was crystal clear.

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