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What the smeg has happened to this game? (Golden Rainbow)

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Stuart T (Golden Rainbow)

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14 Oct 2011 11:34Link
When i used to play ages ago, you advertised that you had corps for sale and CEOs snapped them up. I advertised a couple of days ago that i had corps for sale in Caldera on GR...not one has been purchased.

Ive also noticed a distinct lack of activity on the forums. Wheres all the smack talk and role playing that used to go on???

It seems that people are now content to sit in their 2-3 country empires and not war. I mean, most of the old feds are gone such as UC, LDI and SNA with VS a shadow of its former self and no one has filled that power vacum as far as i can tell. Its now just a load of smaller more economicly minded feds. Come on folks...half the fun of this game is sitting in a major fed and smack talking the opposition on the forums!

When was the last major inter world war? I bet youre going back a good couple of years...

So, whats happened?
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Crafty (Kebir Blue)

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14 Oct 2011 13:36Link
War levels happened Stuart.

And excessive multi-ing. And people getting banned from forums for...well...contraversial comments. And a large influx of new free members, not saying that's a bad thing, but they have no sense of what the game was like and they are un-touchable/teachable. And I'll shut up before I'm banned again.
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Stuart T (Golden Rainbow)

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14 Oct 2011 14:00Link
Well, I was going to become a premium member on monday, but im really having second thoughts now.

Tom, if youre reading this - you need to get rid of war levels. It has made the game one of simple economics instead of one of war. The game is not what it used to be and that must be evident by the number of free players you have. Cant you do something to encourage warring?

At the moment, im a free member and went to invade my 2nd C3 today - I couldnt as i can only have two countries in my empire without becoming a premium member. Both of my countries are virtually as safe as houses too. Surely theres a better way to get people to become premium members? How about instead of all these limits, you gave premium members something like free and permanent cash or pop boosters?

While im at it, we need more CEOs, or at least more active ones. How about allowing whole enterprises to be owned by countries with limitations of % of corps and
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Sunny (Kebir Blue)

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14 Oct 2011 14:44Link
£10 says nothing will change.

The past was great, the present is dull, the future will be *enter own comment here*

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RagingPencil (White Giant)

All worlds
14 Oct 2011 14:54Link
After being away from this game for 7 years I returned with disappointment too (still enjoying the game mind you and i'll continue to play and pay)

PVP warfare is important. It used to be a lot of fun when it came to deplomacy and warring federations.

I've now started to explore space and the game has become all about making an extra buck and less about world domination etc. Less fun and player interaction, but it suits me at the present as i've been busy with work

What about keeping secure country mode for those that want/need it, but having a greater incentive to remove it?
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Kitsuné

All worlds
14 Oct 2011 20:53Link
SimCountry needs a reboot.
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SuperSoldierRCP (Little Upsilon)

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14 Oct 2011 21:28Link
i started 2years back b4 war levels and space and it was Great cant say the same now
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EC (White Giant)

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14 Oct 2011 23:27Link
A lot of us have voiced our opinions on the war levels Stuart, but the game has gone the way of the ecomites.

Now, they can all hide behind war levels, run their traps, and nothing can be done to them.

By the way, I do enjoy the history and nostalgia you have brought to the forum in the last week or so. Hope to see you stick around for a while.
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Slade

All worlds
15 Oct 2011 02:14Link
The last major war was on White Giant in August of 2010.
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Maestro2000 (Golden Rainbow)

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15 Oct 2011 04:11Link
...and that war gave birth to War Levels
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Kitsuné (Little Upsilon)

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15 Oct 2011 05:07Link
SC was ruined by an excessive focus on "assets."

This focus was created almost entirely by W3C's (bad) design decisions.

The fix is more complicated than just "remove war levels" and involves a serious change in direction.
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Tallisabeth Selis (White Giant)

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15 Oct 2011 06:05Link
I have to agree. I myself use to play a long time ago, and I fondly remember the worry of invasion that made the game fun. Now I'm not in secure mode and nobody hasn't even made even a veiled threat against me.
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David Walker (Little Upsilon)

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15 Oct 2011 06:32Link
Players make a choice and they won't go to war if they don't want to.

Once I'm happy with my economic development, I'll be happy to engage in "agreed" wars.
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Maestro2000 (Golden Rainbow)

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15 Oct 2011 07:15Link
We have so many unnatural things in this game.

Why not put a war continent on each world? There all players will be fair game for war. All players on the continent are at war level 3+ and all players on the continent understand the risks/rewards of war. WP or secure mode is not an option on the war continent. Only the standard blackout period applies. The same player may have a mix of countries on or off the war continent.

It would cost a booster to move your country on/off the war continent. One coin to move your country to any available slot or 5 coins to move to a specific slot. The slots are held by c3's. Countries at war on the war continent can't move off the continent.

Countries off the war continent can only war with c3's. No player wars allowed off the continent and countries off the war continent can't provide air defense.

The war continent idea is something the gamemaster programmers can d
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Matt Patton (Golden Rainbow)

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15 Oct 2011 07:21Link
what do you do with all the existing players
do we use a big continent or a little continent like mine
I like the war level addition
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Tabula Rasa (White Giant)

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15 Oct 2011 07:48Link
I thought you could all have unlimited war on FB. What's wrong with setting up shop there and hashing it out? Why this need to force everyone to play the war game?
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Tallisabeth Selis (White Giant)

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15 Oct 2011 08:06Link
*sigh* maybe im just an old-fashion gamer here.
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Maestro2000 (Golden Rainbow)

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15 Oct 2011 08:22Link
Matt,

Players that want the war option move to the war continent. They must be at war level 3 to do this.
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Tom Fitzpatrick (Little Upsilon)

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15 Oct 2011 09:36Link
Want total war? go to Fearless Blue, if your not happy with war on Fearless Blue then recommend changes specifically for that world. If your upset that war isn't common on the peaceful planets, stop complaining those planets are not meant for PvP war. PvP war is largely reserved for Fearless Blue.
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Crafty (Kebir Blue)

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15 Oct 2011 11:43Link
See? Like I said, mouthy players who hide behind war levels. No respect for anyone in the game. The need for diplomacy, and hence the community has gone.

And I do wish people who have NO frigging idea of what the game can be like as it was in its hay-day, who have never even had a serious arguement, let alone a war, would shut the h up about how it should be for other players who do know.

Diplomacy = community = a good spirit, lively forums, banter, flaming matches, and even war for those that chose to go that far. There was many an econ player before who didnt suffer in the hands of war players because they made friends and allies. It is you isolated bean counters that have destroyed the game.
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Sunny (Kebir Blue)

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15 Oct 2011 15:15Link
Sure, i'll go on FB. I'll set up shop with loads of defensive weapons and offensive. Then i'll buy some strat weapons and stack them up. I'll have a nice tidy profit of 30b per month.

Then, out of nowhere:-

The 'pros' will come with 10x the military assets and take it all from me like taking candy from a baby. Then laugh it off in chat or on the forum saying 'I'm the toughest on FB cause i just beat the hell out of so-n-so'.

I'm not tempted to go to FB as you'll just get the 'top' players outdoing you in every way possible.

If for example:-

The federation - The Protectorate or The Sovient Federation (on KB, sorry i don't know many others on any other worlds) all set up shop on FB at the same time and aided one another from the start, i think it would be a very interesting experiment (none of them are my own fed). You'd have a large
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Kolenski (White Giant)

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15 Oct 2011 17:44Link
"Want total war? go to Fearless Blue, if your not happy with war on Fearless Blue then recommend changes specifically for that world."

Well said. What this tiny minority of "war players" who are so vocal in this forum really want is too be able to rape and pillage new players and econ players.

That's why they do not war with each other on FB.
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Stuart T

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15 Oct 2011 22:02Link
@kolenski

Dude, im new. Well, sort of. I used to be here ages ago when simcountry.com was a game where it took more than just econ to make your game.

@Tomfitzpatrick

Same reply to you dude. However, as crafty said - this game was far more interesting when you had to engage in diplomacy and help your fed in defence or attacks on other feds.

As far as i can see, i may as well be playing Farmville if all im interested in is a money making game and to make friends. That isnt what this game is all about, historically at least. Diplomacy was an interesting part of the game, admitttidley, whenever i played diplomat - it was always with a few nukes up my sleeve and one of the strongest feds in the game at my command. But, the premise is still the same no matter how large your empire or fed is.

The player community was a lot more active. For instance, you would log on to the forums to see 20+ new threads that were al
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Sunny (Kebir Blue)

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16 Oct 2011 01:11Link
+1
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Tom Morgan (Kebir Blue)

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16 Oct 2011 01:13Link
I agree with most posts on this forum. I might not have been around pre-War Levels, but by the sounds of it, it was a great and fun game. I myslef have been getting tired of this all-econ game, and have found some thrill out of c3 raiding, yet on KB, my home world, there is barely any action. Sure, there is some heated debate between some feds and players, but that won't result in anything.

HERES AN IDEA: Have a 'Beginner World' where all new players go to get set up- have war levels so new players aren't raided. Then, when players feel like they can do it, use the Space Program to move to another world where war is easier to come by...
How about it?