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Andy
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17 Apr 2012 16:42Link
1. War Level 9 and 10
War levels 9 and 10 are now added to Simcountry but the exact power of the C3 countries at these levels may be tuned in the coming weeks. At the same time, 1 stealth bomber unit is added to C3 countries in war level 7. More such units are available to C3 countries in level 8 and many more in war level 9 and 10.
2. Game levels update
Moving up the game levels (playing the full game including the war option), is now possible either with a very high defense and defensive indexes or by moving up the war levels. As we have announced before, he requirements for the defense indexes will in time increase and moving up the game levels will require a high war level.
The defense and defensive index requirements have now increased by 5 points. Reaching higher game levels remains possible by building a large army but fighting to reach a higher war level becomes a more attractive option.
More suc
War levels 9 and 10 are now added to Simcountry but the exact power of the C3 countries at these levels may be tuned in the coming weeks. At the same time, 1 stealth bomber unit is added to C3 countries in war level 7. More such units are available to C3 countries in level 8 and many more in war level 9 and 10.
2. Game levels update
Moving up the game levels (playing the full game including the war option), is now possible either with a very high defense and defensive indexes or by moving up the war levels. As we have announced before, he requirements for the defense indexes will in time increase and moving up the game levels will require a high war level.
The defense and defensive index requirements have now increased by 5 points. Reaching higher game levels remains possible by building a large army but fighting to reach a higher war level becomes a more attractive option.
More suc
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Keto
All worlds
17 Apr 2012 18:43Link
-1 to all new updates
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Sunny
All worlds
17 Apr 2012 18:55Link
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Christopher Michael
All worlds
17 Apr 2012 21:15Link
#3........-1
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Scarlet
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 11:09Link
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Tom Morgan
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 13:21Link
lol. okay then.
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Jo Salkilld
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 13:21Link
Andy, please would you give us some warning in future when you are about to change the worker balance in corporations.
I woke up yesterday to find every single country in my empire was seriously short of some types of worker, with large surpluses of other types. And I mean seriously short. For example, between 2,000 and 8,000 High Tech Executives needed for full employment, when I had 2,000 unemployed the day before. Even with a good Education Index and my education priorities ramped right up, I can only graduate around 700 per month. This is going to take me days of hard work to recover.
A week's warning of exactly what the changes were going to be would have allowed us to calculate how many extra would be needed and to build up the numbers of unemployed to deal with the change when it was implemented. There's no reason not to warn us and it will save a lot of player frustration and complaints if you do so in fu
I woke up yesterday to find every single country in my empire was seriously short of some types of worker, with large surpluses of other types. And I mean seriously short. For example, between 2,000 and 8,000 High Tech Executives needed for full employment, when I had 2,000 unemployed the day before. Even with a good Education Index and my education priorities ramped right up, I can only graduate around 700 per month. This is going to take me days of hard work to recover.
A week's warning of exactly what the changes were going to be would have allowed us to calculate how many extra would be needed and to build up the numbers of unemployed to deal with the change when it was implemented. There's no reason not to warn us and it will save a lot of player frustration and complaints if you do so in fu
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Andy
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 13:30Link
No changes what so ever.
The changes in the work force in corporations were a weekly repeating feature for a very long period and we have recently explained again, that small changes will continue and corporate work force will be increase and may reach an average of 300.000 at some point.
however, due to many number reduction changes, all work force updates have been suspended in the past several weeks as it is hard to predict their influence within the model.
so last Tuesday, and at least the two Tuesdays before, we did not make any changes.
what is always ongoing, and unchanged, is the change in manpower that results from the upgrading of corporate efficiency.
other than that, it could be a sudden hiring or decline in hiring.
we do not think that additional advanced warning is needed as we have explained this long term changes that will continue at a low pace once the current dust storm subsides.
The changes in the work force in corporations were a weekly repeating feature for a very long period and we have recently explained again, that small changes will continue and corporate work force will be increase and may reach an average of 300.000 at some point.
however, due to many number reduction changes, all work force updates have been suspended in the past several weeks as it is hard to predict their influence within the model.
so last Tuesday, and at least the two Tuesdays before, we did not make any changes.
what is always ongoing, and unchanged, is the change in manpower that results from the upgrading of corporate efficiency.
other than that, it could be a sudden hiring or decline in hiring.
we do not think that additional advanced warning is needed as we have explained this long term changes that will continue at a low pace once the current dust storm subsides.
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Christopher Michael
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 14:39Link
The very same thing happened to my empire on GR.
I fixed what I needed to fix, and cut off the efficiency upgrades for right now.
I thought it was the beginnings of a retirement bubble, but there are no signs of that happening presently.
I fixed what I needed to fix, and cut off the efficiency upgrades for right now.
I thought it was the beginnings of a retirement bubble, but there are no signs of that happening presently.
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Jo Salkilld
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 16:54Link
Andy - something has happened and, if it's not a change in the staffing of corps, I'd be very grateful if you could look at the Hanky Panky Hippy Land empire on White Giant and tell me what you think it is!
I have retirement bubbles in all the countries, but I am monitoring the population and worker declines very closely, there have been no sudden movements anywhere and most of them are slowly improving, so it's not that. 90% of the corps are fully upgraded, and the ones that aren't have been steadily upgrading for years without any sudden jumps, so it's not upgrades. I haven't built a new corporation in the country for over a year and a half, so it can't be that.
Take a look at the graph of total employed HT Execs <
I have retirement bubbles in all the countries, but I am monitoring the population and worker declines very closely, there have been no sudden movements anywhere and most of them are slowly improving, so it's not that. 90% of the corps are fully upgraded, and the ones that aren't have been steadily upgrading for years without any sudden jumps, so it's not upgrades. I haven't built a new corporation in the country for over a year and a half, so it can't be that.
Take a look at the graph of total employed HT Execs <
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Craigsw
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 18:33Link
The same thing happened in my country. Perhaps it is something to do with the upgrading? I noticed recently that a new corp of mine didn't get any upgrades for ages...they simply weren't delivered, and then all of a sudden it shot up by about 5 or 6. I wonder if it is possible that this is what has happened all over the worlds.
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Jo Salkilld
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 19:54Link
It isn't likely to be upgrades, Craig. When you upgrade, you typically end up with more LLMs and fewer HTEs. I'm experiencing the opposite ... across all 15 countries!
Andy, when you say that updates in workforce were suspended for around 3 weeks, did they then all happen at once? Were there 3 or 4 weeks of workforce changes all together in this week's update? If so, that would probably explain it ...
If not, any ideas you have would be gratefully received.
Hugs and respect
Jo
PS: Thanks for implementing WLs 9 & 10!
Andy, when you say that updates in workforce were suspended for around 3 weeks, did they then all happen at once? Were there 3 or 4 weeks of workforce changes all together in this week's update? If so, that would probably explain it ...
If not, any ideas you have would be gratefully received.
Hugs and respect
Jo
PS: Thanks for implementing WLs 9 & 10!
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Crafty
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 20:33Link
Andy, what Jo has seen I have also seen very recently, (a day or so). Losses of most worker types, large losses, and I have seen real years of number fluctuations so I am sorry to say that is not down to efficiency upgrades or new corps or any such action.
You are obviously convinced there has been no recent changes, in which case I might suggest that another engineer there has erroneously activated an update piece of code without anyone there realising it.
Like Jo, I will restore balance.
Like Jo, I ask you inform us in advance as you often have done before.
Like on previous issues, I urge you to look further into it to ensure nothing went wrong without your knowledge, and implement some policy that catches these abnormalities that we seem to experience but you have no knowledge of.
Thanks for your time, Crafty.
You are obviously convinced there has been no recent changes, in which case I might suggest that another engineer there has erroneously activated an update piece of code without anyone there realising it.
Like Jo, I will restore balance.
Like Jo, I ask you inform us in advance as you often have done before.
Like on previous issues, I urge you to look further into it to ensure nothing went wrong without your knowledge, and implement some policy that catches these abnormalities that we seem to experience but you have no knowledge of.
Thanks for your time, Crafty.
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maclean
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 21:50Link
Agree
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Andy
All worlds
18 Apr 2012 21:59Link
The only thing I could find out was an automatic adjustment of staff in hospitals and universities.
the numbers are very small, 10 here or there.
in large countries it could indeed amount to a couple of thousands.
It probably happened when recent reductions in costs, bumped the totals against some floor value. I did not see this for a very long time.
There were absolutely no changes in corporations.
How many universities and hospitals do you have?
let me know and I will check further.
The cost of both health and education is fluctuating some but the trend recently, as with everything, is down.
the numbers are very small, 10 here or there.
in large countries it could indeed amount to a couple of thousands.
It probably happened when recent reductions in costs, bumped the totals against some floor value. I did not see this for a very long time.
There were absolutely no changes in corporations.
How many universities and hospitals do you have?
let me know and I will check further.
The cost of both health and education is fluctuating some but the trend recently, as with everything, is down.
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Sunny
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 00:06Link
What the f...
Since when did it take 3000 missiles to destroy 1 heli wing @ level 7... those missiles are at Q250 too! !!!!!
Since when did it take 3000 missiles to destroy 1 heli wing @ level 7... those missiles are at Q250 too! !!!!!
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Jo Salkilld
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 00:40Link
Andy if it's hospitals or universities ... those adjustments must not have included university teachers or medical staff and only 'normal' workers. Could that be what happened?
I'm looking at 10,000 HT Execs here. I have a lot of hospitals and universities (200+ Unis and almost 2,000 hospitals), and it would take an increase of 5 HT Execs per university / hospital to affect my HT Exec worker balance to that extent. But that's just HT Execs. It's also MLWs, HLWs, LLMs, MLMs, HLMs, Execs and HTSs. Would that account for it?
If so, you may think the numbers are small, and they probably are for a country with only 10M population, but for a large established empire, when it means a shortage of 10,000 HT Execs, it has a serious effect. Especially when you take into account that a good Education Index and a high Education priority will only yield around 700 graduate HT Execs per month
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I'm looking at 10,000 HT Execs here. I have a lot of hospitals and universities (200+ Unis and almost 2,000 hospitals), and it would take an increase of 5 HT Execs per university / hospital to affect my HT Exec worker balance to that extent. But that's just HT Execs. It's also MLWs, HLWs, LLMs, MLMs, HLMs, Execs and HTSs. Would that account for it?
If so, you may think the numbers are small, and they probably are for a country with only 10M population, but for a large established empire, when it means a shortage of 10,000 HT Execs, it has a serious effect. Especially when you take into account that a good Education Index and a high Education priority will only yield around 700 graduate HT Execs per month
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Star Polarity
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 11:02Link
Hi Jo,
I have had the same effect in my very much smaller land - going from an over supply of HT Execs to suddenly a serious and huge shortage of them. My overall employment went from above 96% to about 92%, and still falling, despite my best efforts to make HT Execs.
https://sim05.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=cntrhist&miKey=738&miColumn=vCmainEmploymentIndex
I have put 50 of my 120 priority points into training HT Execs, and the amount of unemployed HT Execs is growing each turn, and the amount needed for full employment is falling, but still my overall employment is decreasing.
Here is my graduations of new HT Execs, in response to the crisis:
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I have had the same effect in my very much smaller land - going from an over supply of HT Execs to suddenly a serious and huge shortage of them. My overall employment went from above 96% to about 92%, and still falling, despite my best efforts to make HT Execs.
https://sim05.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=cntrhist&miKey=738&miColumn=vCmainEmploymentIndex
I have put 50 of my 120 priority points into training HT Execs, and the amount of unemployed HT Execs is growing each turn, and the amount needed for full employment is falling, but still my overall employment is decreasing.
Here is my graduations of new HT Execs, in response to the crisis:
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Andy
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 11:45Link
Jo,
what is the population of the country where it happened.
the update was only universities and hospitals and did not involve any of the professionals.
The function is limited to a very small update and I am surprised by the scale.
what is the population of the country where it happened.
the update was only universities and hospitals and did not involve any of the professionals.
The function is limited to a very small update and I am surprised by the scale.
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Inanna
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 12:26Link
Yeah, I only needed some 4,000,000 HTEngineers for 100% hiring on LU. I had to resort to relocating my ceo corps in my country to another country.
On the bright side I'm down to around 2.25M left. That is a %50 improvement...ugh...yay?
On the bright side I'm down to around 2.25M left. That is a %50 improvement...ugh...yay?
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Scarlet
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 12:43Link
Actually, I'm changing my -1 to a -0.1
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Jo Salkilld
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 12:53Link
Thankyou so much for looking into this Andy.
All 10 of my WG countries have been hit, and all 5 of my GR countries, but the specifics of the one that has been worst hit (quoted as an example above) are as follows:
Hanky Panky Hippy Land on WG
Population (at the time of the occurrance): 101.3M
Date of occurrence: June 2929
Immediate impact on employed workers (very approximate numbers):
LLW: -300,000
MLW: +80,000
HLW: +60,000
LLM: +45,000
MLM: +70,000
HLM: +30,000
Exec: +3,500
HTE: -150,000
HTS: +30,000
HT Exec: +7,200
Teacher: no change
Uni Teacher: no change
Nurse: no change
Doctor: no change
S. Doctor: no change
The other nine countries in my empire range in population from 82.3M up to 100.3M and they were all hit in a similar way. Hanky Panky Hippy Land was worst hit and second w
All 10 of my WG countries have been hit, and all 5 of my GR countries, but the specifics of the one that has been worst hit (quoted as an example above) are as follows:
Hanky Panky Hippy Land on WG
Population (at the time of the occurrance): 101.3M
Date of occurrence: June 2929
Immediate impact on employed workers (very approximate numbers):
LLW: -300,000
MLW: +80,000
HLW: +60,000
LLM: +45,000
MLM: +70,000
HLM: +30,000
Exec: +3,500
HTE: -150,000
HTS: +30,000
HT Exec: +7,200
Teacher: no change
Uni Teacher: no change
Nurse: no change
Doctor: no change
S. Doctor: no change
The other nine countries in my empire range in population from 82.3M up to 100.3M and they were all hit in a similar way. Hanky Panky Hippy Land was worst hit and second w
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Redman
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 12:54Link
This happens to everyone's country Andy. Every one of mine has been effected like this. Why don't you ask the population for ALL of our countries?
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Inanna
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 12:57Link
Because he is in denial, possibly delusional. He lives in a world of finite numbers, ratios, equations, and game theory where nothing could ever go wrong unless you did it.
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Jo Salkilld
All worlds
19 Apr 2012 13:33Link
C'mon guys, be fair! This is a game of finite numbers and equations. It's run by a computer, so it never does anything random. If something has happened that the GMs didn't expect, it's because one thing has affected another that they didn't plan for, or a wrong number or formula has been entered, or the right one in the wrong place.
Andy's asking about the population in my country because it's easier for him to look at one example for which he has lots of data, to work out what might have happened. If he can find the answer, it will benefit all of us.
At least give him credit for not ignoring the problem, but working with us to find what has happened!
Hugs and respect
Jo
Andy's asking about the population in my country because it's easier for him to look at one example for which he has lots of data, to work out what might have happened. If he can find the answer, it will benefit all of us.
At least give him credit for not ignoring the problem, but working with us to find what has happened!
Hugs and respect
Jo