ATTN: I don't post often, but when I do, I mean it.

Well, let me take all of you great up and new comers, free players, veterans, all alike, as players of this game back a year or so ago. They didn't have to give away accounts to fill their countries, There were always wars, and rivalries, Forum drama if a vet attacked a newbie, or an econ player, and one of the other vets that was around would always step up for those of you who are new when we got a little greedy with this thing that is now known as "declaring" C3's don't count as declares. The most fun part of this game, was the teamwork, was staying up and chatting together while at war with 20 other countries on 2-3 different worlds. Back when federations, and your 'swagger/earned respect/and intelligence played a roll.

Community/Ingame 'swagger/finance/rankings':

We have players that have been here twice as long as me, selling 92Million pop countries to new players or whomever will buy them for 200gc

+1

but wild, you are the game's downfall. got bored with you're rant after the first sentence. (yawn)

No It wasn't as if I acted alone. Hell, I'm sure people will say "yes I got a little greedy back then" at least then there were countries worth taking that werent you're fed memebers, or long time friends..


Heck It'd be nice to actually play the game again, whom ever you may be in hiding...

its people like you, that are the downfall. Not me.

I couldn't be bothered to care. I give most of my assets to new players, and helping them get started and interested. Funny how karma works out, if I am the so called 'downfall, to be the one, giving away countless GC's and Trillions of dollars to new players, not because of my conscious we all know I don't have one of those, nor a soul. lol, but because, I loved to play the game, not sit and decorate my countries and adjust settings to whatever is broken when the game does updates...

@Tom Morgan, appreciate the +1 ;)

itll be you're only +1 ;) i give you a -1000

Aww. If only I gave a damn about your point system, I got my point across, 'nuff said.

i'm with ya, like i even need to say so

gregg, you've got no idea. Shhh or I'll nuke you to the stone age.

See... I can make this game fun again!

Also, I think the player has a big part to play. Open a fed and poach as many newbies as possible. Leave for 3 months, and you have lots of fully grown players causing all sorts of horrors. And make use of the forums. Create interesting threads and encourage discussion on anything. This forum has been a little bleak recently. If we all promote a strong community, the game will retain more players.

Player numbers need to grow if the war game is to survive.

T

+100 to everyone but gregg (sorry, dude, but I think you're out of touch).

I think along the same lines as Wild. It was part of the fun to know you were always in jepardy of being taken out. It added excitmate to the game and gave incentive to learn faster.

+1

Wild eyes,

thanks for your contribution, for your support for beginners and for your worries about the game.
at least you care a lot.

It has been a bumpy ride for many experienced players and the ride continues because we have to make the game attractive for beginners and easier to play for them.

In the process, it probably became a little harder to keep huge empires but you could also say that the differences between starters and very large players may have become a little smaller.

In the past years we have also made it harder to kill all new players immediately after they started. This used to be a popular sport here and it is now quite hard to do.
This was a very important change that was hard to accomplish, involved many features and took some time.
Some of the early measures will probably be relaxed in the future as other changes, later, made the hunting of beginners quite hard.

Long time player

Andy, it used to be my sport, lmfao let's just be honest, between me and EO, and Pink and Barney, we we're pirates of the Caribbean back then. Had i known OUR actions, would have led to the war level acts, i would have slowed down to know what I know now...was partially caused by my greed, well that and, war has always been war, few actually know it. New players get cocky, and dont know what war is like fighting c3's..

That's why i've always wondered about you guys adding a feature for players like me, orbiter, crazyeye (who in general just love to war) and would probably all do it, as a err, "paid in GC per war trained" but i came up with this a while back and of course, it was ignored...haha...

Why can't we have 'trainers' and who setup training wars, with new players given, they want to learn it, and then at the end of the war, no matter who wins or loses, the countries like, reset to hav

Wow, I hate your and You're..Im not even going to attempt to correct my grammar in my previous post.

-1 for me lol

Homerdome, clearly, Blaming andy for everything changing.. that's really going to help get a game we enjoy and love to play to work in our favor..That's like telling God his shirt doesn't go with his tie...


When you go after the GM, there is no, "I WIN HE LOSES" it's always, "****** Im banned or ***** why cant I do..." trust me seen it happen to too many, myself included in my 'Wilder' days.

Now I'll just train mini-me's with sharks with laser beams and such to take over my old role..mwhaha..

I would like to thank the vets for helping new players and giving me tips and instrumental assets. Wild, you are for sure one of the most hated players because of past actions, but to me, you are one of the most helpful and I appreciate your efforts and offerings. Keto has been another great vet that has made this game so fun for me. Chatting with you two makes things fun for me.

I see your point on the "community" of friends that can make this game fun with having to co-ordinate attacks during war and just plain getting together and having a group fun with something. I can see that part of the game is just about gone if not forever history. Discussions in chat about tactics, econ, strategies and the "leave my fed alone" type stuff is part of what makes me want to play.

We can figure out a way to bring something back in some way shape or form I'm sure. We just have to want to and actually try.

Thanks again

Dearest Evil Sister,

I love the Avatar of you and that is by far my favorite. Since the game has changed so much, when people can find the time to play such in depth parts of the game like war and coallition raids, it must not be the same as back in your happy times. What can we do as players to make that fun again?

I can declare on you if you want. : P I am not sure how that would go for me. : P You would need all of your friends to help defend against me. Four "quad" air defense is nothing(whatever that means : P) against my QueenBikini over 18 but under 21 swimwear teams and pilots.

In all seriousness, with the game changes unfortunately we have to find ways to make it fun again. I have fun, I just do not have allot of time to play. Even with multiple emails to the gm's never being answered and being deflected away as spam without a second thought. I spent time on those emails and nothing. Just to be exp

Indeed, repeating the same baseless accusations does not help.

WildEyes,

Too much text and for me, unclear.
We discussed this before in mail messages.

We like constructive criticism because it is helping us to improve the game.
many features in the game are the result of discussions here and are based on players ideas.

However, we need it short and clear without the history and the "really" and the "Come on" stuff.
mails should be short, but on the forum, the messages should be even much shorter and very very clear or no one, including us, will not read them and for sure not understand what is actually meant.
"Bring us the past back" is what? THE past?

we are very busy here and decrypting a page of your text takes a very long time and then explaining it around here, even more and then we are not sure if we really understood the message.

Tom Morgon, go ahead lol You will nuke me to the stone age? Can't because of war levels!

My opinion is this. I was a former player in a solid fed on White Giant. Wild and her band of misfits chose to gang up and try to wipe my fed out. Several players left the game as a result of this, myself included. Wild has a history of game bullying as does Orbiter, EO, her whole band of misfits, who get real life egos built from some sense of power from a game. She and her fedmates wiped out players and ran paying players off. She really contributed to the game, let me tell you. Great for building the player base, kudos to Wild!!! Where are all these new players in the game? I see the same old, same old. She may have you small time players fooled, but I have been around for 7 years in this game. I know the history. I know this player. Lousy choice for a game moderator, lousy choice for anything to promote Simcountry.

I would like t

To QB - why are your multiple emails to the GMs not answered when Wild's are? According to a past post by Andy, there were no conversations between players and the GMs, except through game mail, despite claims of personal convos on chat clients such as skype, MSN and the such, but yet this one was awarded a Moderator position. I came back a week ago when one of my WGC mates told me this. I had to see for myself. I would almost see this as a smack in the face for any player. Makes me wonder. Does it you?

an interesting point to made about the changes of the war game.

i'm left really wondering where W3C is trying to go. I mean, i see the evolution of the war engine. But i'm seriously confused about the future of the war game.

the event that brought on all the changes... was when a large powerful fed, that dominated their planet, and was founded to help protect new players, (from the very newbie bashing mentioned above.) SO when a serious threat occurred... the game was changed prevent that... a larger fed, with more long term players, that bragged about defending themselves... some how it was wrong to attack such a group.

so what confuses me... is it seems if a player or group looses, it has become a moral issue, as to whether the war was "justified," ok, then when the game masters step in, and say its not fair for one group to beat up a larger sized, long term fed, with equally experienced players

Orbiter, there were many ways that you and your game buds ran players from the game. Not just in war aspects. Game ethics maybe? or do none exist here? Chat bullying, forum bullying. I would advise any new player in the game to go back and read ALL the old logs of the game conversations. They are ALL in the forums for you to see. See the threats. See the ugly, fould names. See the misconduct of players. See who is doing it. Figure out who is good and who is bad in the game. Don't be suckered in by those who give you gifts, advice, countries, gold coins. Besides what they give you is what they have amassed from years of bullying and taking advantage of weaker and undefended players.

shrug

and the people that promised to protect the innocent... and built their power base around that... dramatically dropped the ball

ya, plenty of people willing to step up gather masses of new, and moderate players!! while promising them protection. then take the combined stats and brag about their military prowess. And even go so far a use these inexperienced newbs, to further their own political agenda. But don't you dare challenge them with a war dec... its not fair.

the fed i mentioned above, loosely fits into that mold.

as far as the "bullying," well, if we just setup, and attack, its an "ambush," so yes, we are REQUIRED to forum bash, to give your opponent a heads up, and entertain the bystanders. If you want to move away from the "uglyness," you need to give us an outlet.