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Tensions reaching fever-pitch between Japan and China

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Tom Morgan

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15 Sep 2012 11:41Link
Japan vs China is a real possibility, and we all know which two other countries will be dragged into the fight (Russia and USA)

Plus there's Vietnam, Phillipenes and Malaysia all unhappy with the Chinese over the South China Sea. Looks like Eastern Asia is a new hotspot.

People of SimCountry, what are your thoughts?
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Sir Anthony King

All worlds
15 Sep 2012 12:18Link
Are you saying, there could be possible war against China? Whats up with South China Sea.
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
15 Sep 2012 13:45Link
It wont happen. China needs the US to buy there goods and needs us to keep taking loans. On top admittedly Russia/China would have the advantage of first strike but after that a war with the US would cost them dearly(we still got a TON of bombers/tanks that are collecting dust), on top of that the US might be in debt but the private sector would start mass producing weapons and ammo very cheaply.(If the US closes shop so do they and they are in it to make money). If anything it will turn into a cold war 2 scenario.

Plus India and China are just(i use that term lightly) starting to get along. Those 2 have been in pissing match for over 1000's of year. A war would remove that. Point is all countries want to survive and non of them are stupid enough at this point in time to play with that fragile system we have now.
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Devils Halo

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15 Sep 2012 17:19Link
I would have to agree with "SuperSoldierRCP"...The USA it could turn into a Cold War 2 issue. The U.S. has a TON of stock in munitions. I mean a ton and our weapons manufactures are in the U.S..that means we get first dibs on the cool stuff. Besides our technology is beyond any other country. Russia has the only chance to actually hit the U.S from an outside attack, and that attack would only effect Alaska..Once the first punch is thrown..I hope the other country is ready for a fight. We'll take out your country and put you in the most strenuous economic choke hold known to man. Remember we have the worlds largest NAVY...we'll starve your country to death. We'll cripple your trade. We'll "FUBAR" you
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Luke

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15 Sep 2012 19:12Link
If it was to happen it would be the U.S. Vs China and Russia... JSDF is Japans only Military Organization. Kinda hard to fight a cold war without a puppet military to support....
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Khome y Peng

All worlds
15 Sep 2012 20:29Link
strange seeing the red guard uniforms coming out during their demonstrations against the Japaneses embassy, I don't think we saw those since the 70s's..
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christopher

All worlds
05 Oct 2012 00:47Link
ya ask me, we are being staged for another world war. . Israel, and Iran, Syria conflict with newly problems including turkey who is just dying to make a name for itself. china and Japan. china moving against aisia Pacific land disputes with many countries. world economies on the verge of collapse. nothing takes care of Dept faster then a war. we will see i guess.
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Sunny

All worlds
05 Oct 2012 01:23Link
US this, US that. Russia this russia that.

If China went to war with Japan, US wouldn't give a toss. It'd sit back shitting itself unless called upon. Why? China is the new superpower. Every country knows this, if they were to go head-on with any country, they have the high probability of succeeding in war.

If China went to war, India, unless called upon, wouldn't help them. If called upon, it's a triangle. China calls india, who calls russia, who brings ww3. They're the deadly circle. However, on the other end, you have, US, UK, US influence on EU. So you're looking at a balance of power everywhere. Then again, the UK would be nothing in war, it's a fact.

Anyway back to the point at hand. China can strike at anytime, if it takes out Jap, America will be it's next target, or India. They'll go two faced on any country in a second, cause they can. If that happens, India and Russia like good ol
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SuperSoldierRCP

All worlds
05 Oct 2012 11:54Link
Your forgetting the 2 big underdog's in World War 3 scenario. If came down to a fight

US/ Europe/ Israel/ Japan
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Russia/China(Maybe India, thought they can been on either side but we siding them with china)

2 countries would join the US side and in the end win(granted it would take time but would come out in a win).

US is in military alliances with BOTH
Australia/New Zealand
They would be massive players in military support they are close enough to strike missiles into the mainland of Asia but far enough to prevent land troops from attacking. Also they would be good staging points for navies.
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Brazil
(Quote) "Major export products include aircraft, electrical equipment, automobiles, ethanol, textiles, footwear, iron ore, steel, coffee, orange juice, soybeans and corned beef."

That right there says they can in a total war scenario EASILY
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Sunny

All worlds
05 Oct 2012 13:28Link
I was going about the main countries that would be involved, but if we're talking about underdogs, you're forgetting a few.

Cuba, Saudia Arabia, Mexico and Iran.

Before i go any further, i don't have a grudge against the US, rather i'm just trying to predict the outcome by being unbaised.

Anyway, Cuba is already on the doorstep of the US, and is known to have been supplied heavy weaponry from the USSR. Maybe not a extensive amoount, but they have got enough to strike at the US, hard. Not to mention if they did start, Mexico and no doubt the drug cartels in colombia would aid them. Colo and Mexi don't have a good relation with the US, i wonder why... If Brazil got involved, they might become the secondary target, unless they sided with the Asia group. Granted they have economical goods, but i think if Colo and Mexi was involved, they'd be of no use. Mainly because they'd block the transport routes vi
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MantoArms

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05 Oct 2012 13:32Link
Are you kidding me , China ,U.S ,Russia or japaan have no intention of going to war . China is on the verge of becoming a massive economic super power , they dont need a war . Russia is also on the up with there vast resources , they dont need or want a war . The U.S has far to much military in the middle east which are supplied from a very fragile line , they would be cut off and lost .

If there was a war no one would win , do you really think we could beat and occupy two vast nations like China and Russia , come on get real , a lot of people would die for nothing . As for the cooment that UK is nothing , 65 million people would disagree .
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Lorelei

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05 Oct 2012 16:49Link
According to the Bible and prophecy, there will be wars and there will be rumor of wars. These must happen and we must not worry. Well unless you are an evil person. ha ha ha ha I put my faith in God and don't concern myself with anything else.
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Sunny

All worlds
05 Oct 2012 18:00Link
No one said they had the intention of going to war, we're talking about the probability of what would happen if something did spark off.

China isn't on the verge, it IS the superpower. Russia is a military run country. The vast majority of it's income comes from developing arms and selling them to other countries. The US as i stated before, could / may use those measures if a war was started.

You clearly don't have a grasp of what 'winning' a war could entail. You don't always have to occupy a country for it to be a win. Jeez, research some more before you type trash like that, or at least gain some common sense.

Your last comment ' As for the cooment that UK is nothing , 65 million people would disagree ' that truly is hilarious lol. You think we're actually, influential in a war? China would flick their boogie at us and we'd be stuck for a decade lol
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Lorelei

All worlds
05 Oct 2012 19:20Link
Sunshine, are you from the UK? Where abouts?
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Sunny

All worlds
05 Oct 2012 23:45Link
Aye i am luv.

Wolverhampton - West Midlands.

Yourself? UK or US?
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PALM

All worlds
06 Oct 2012 03:46Link
"65 million people would disagree ' that truly is hilarious lol. You think we're actually, influential in a war? " WoW I was pretty impressed with 2 para and the marines I served with as a US soldier not sure they would agree nor I
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Lorelei

All worlds
06 Oct 2012 05:15Link
I'm on da other side of the big pond, in the US.
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Drew

All worlds
06 Oct 2012 05:16Link
No war going happen.

China is never ever going to be an economic superpower, their government doesn't have an infrastructure for a very important resource needed, labor. Those that believe they are attempting to improve it, wages have actually been sinking lower despite news traveling Foxxcon and other reputable slave labor camps. The industries inside China have had a harsh first two quarters and so major crime is peeling back even more of that infrastructure. You can't run a country where the government decides people don't need any of life's essentials.

If their was a war, Mexico would side with the US. Cuba would be a wild card, and come down to bribes. Saudi Arabia would side with the US. Pakistan would be a better projection, there economy is solide (compared to most) and have a huge manpower with a larger emphasis on the big picture over their own lives.

South Korea and Japan are the most indus
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Sunny

All worlds
06 Oct 2012 14:02Link
Drew,

I'm not sure how you can actually emphasize that China is not going to become a superpower. It already IS. When it comes down to war, any country would sacrifice a few pennies / cents for the larger pound / dollar, thus, i can't agree on the statement 'You can't run a country where the government decides people don't need any of life's essentials'.

Mexico would NOT side with the US unless a large bribe was given. However, the US could call a clean slate or say it'd be a truce, by clearing Mexico officials from the 24th Aug 2012 shooting on their embassy vehicle if they agreed to become allies. Yes they have great ties economically, but not when it boils down to war. Cuba is with Russia, which is with China. End of discussion. No bribe could / would change that. Saudi Arabia wouldn't side with the US, unless heavily bribed. Again, they have good economic ties with the US, primarily through arms de
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Sunny

All worlds
06 Oct 2012 14:04Link
Palm, i might change my mind, if i get into the RAF as a pilot :P

Lore, come visit me! :(
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MantoArms

All worlds
06 Oct 2012 17:16Link
If we were involved in a new world war then yes 65 millin people would be influential in a war ,just like they were in the last two world wars , read youre history eh .

The way i understood it , China is one of the biggest growing markets in the world , which is the reason why all the big corporatians wants in on it and the reason why they are doing so well at the present , while the rest off us are trying to stop the shrinking .
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Crafty

All worlds
06 Oct 2012 19:11Link
Listen, if The Cockney Army got involved it would be game over in a day.
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MantoArms

All worlds
06 Oct 2012 21:05Link
Quote "You clearly don't have a grasp of what 'winning' a war could entail. You don't always have to occupy a country for it to be a win. Jeez, research some more before you type trash like that, or at least gain some common sense."

So how would you invisage a win would look like with a war with China and Russia ?

Quote " China would flick their boogie at us and we'd be stuck for a decade lol "

So how would they flick there boogies ? by ship , plane or car ? Show me a war that did not have some form of land occupation ? I think you are very niave with youre comments .

Quote " Russia is a military run country. The vast majority of it's income comes from developing arms and selling them to other countries."
So what would happen if they cut off the Gas supply ? To say Russia ows must of its wealth to arms dealling is simply stupid .
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Crafty

All worlds
06 Oct 2012 22:10Link
Haven't you heard of China's new strategic weapon?

The giant booger catapault.