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Security Council News Bulletin (Little Upsilon)

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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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07 Sep 2011 17:42Link
MARIA, ATHRETVARI -- The Athretvarian Ministry of External Affairs is pleased to announce the appointment of Gothamloki, Defender of the Realm of Athretvari, to a seat upon the Security Council of Little Epsilon.

The Athretvarian people are grateful for this honor and opportunity. It is our belief that the purpose of the Security Council has always been to promote and ensure the peaceful and prosperous development of Little Epsilon. While we are well aware of its failures and flaws, the Security Council's potential for good remains available but little used.

The Security Council maintains a current treasury of greater than 500 Trillion for the explicit purpose of providing development aid to struggling countries on LU.

We have seen only a few attempts to provide this aid, and most of those attempts have been rejected by general vote. We believe those rejections were based on the applicant country's violation of several un
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Green Paws (Little Upsilon)

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07 Sep 2011 19:22Link
I would like to see many more new presidents to seek international aid.
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ZentrinoRisen (Little Upsilon)

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08 Sep 2011 03:38Link
It seems to me that many of those who post in here support the proposals. It is the presidents who do not post in here (and maybe don't read in here) who reject them. The last several have all failed by 20-30 or more votes.
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Accordion_This (Little Upsilon)

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08 Sep 2011 08:16Link
How does the game select players for the Security Council? I don't recall G. reaching first place last month.

But congratulations, G. Hope you have a good run! :)
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CorporatePartner (Fearless Blue)

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08 Sep 2011 10:54Link
This seat expired recently, and probably opened up for him or another. There are a few seats which rotate based on time spent on the world/log-in data, etc., or whatever other 'criteria' are used...basically, of the 15 seats, a handful are in this group of 'floaters'.

Anyhow, good luck with getting more good Proposals done, however, would have to challenge this "list of 10 criteria" for what is required to get Security Council Proposals made, as there only seems to be a couple of those that are actual 'restrictions' imposed by 'Gamemaster'.

  • Not "Game Level" of 3 or above
  • "Net cash" less than 2T SC$

Have not actually seen the Proposals be rejected for other than those two reasons, but obviously there may be more.
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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08 Sep 2011 15:00Link
Accordion, CP's correct. I was selected for an open seat cause I've logged-on a lot lately. Havent reached number 1. Not sure about that accomplishment in the near future with the competition. (What's in the water in the Green Paws Empire?! Athretvari wants some. Insane. Seriously, send us some of that water!)

CP, the list is definitely more restrictive than documented SC requirements for proposals. These are the requirements for proposals I'd like to submit and advocate.

I've personally voted against a few proposals because the aid apeared to be more 'debt relief' for war or weapons over-expenditures by countries that look like they should be experienced enough or capable enough to help themselves, as opposed to real 'development aid' for a new struggling country to invest in infrastructure. I dont support aid for countries that spend their money on an unrealistic military. I'm imagining t
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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08 Sep 2011 15:23Link
Zentrino, I think you're absolutely correct. It's a real obstacle to approving aid. The only way I can think of to get around it is getting the word out. (short of the GMs providing a more explicit way of getting (esp. new) players to the forums)

I encourage everyone to start a massive diplomatic "meet and greet" with every lonely country in their regions, gift them a few corp builds (even if their tax is still pegged at 30 and thier indexes arent perfect), drop a few pointers (my favorite is, "lower taxes entices investment, and investment is money!") and direct them to the forums.
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Green Paws (Little Upsilon)

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08 Sep 2011 18:51Link
I've just secured my place in the Security Council from coming first as at 31st August 2011. It lasts until 31st January 2012.

I'll start by checking countries in my immediate home region to find potential beneficiaries and encourage interaction. I'll then begin on other areas.

Did they fix it so SC members get notice of SC voting, like one does with general voting?
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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08 Sep 2011 20:53Link
Green Paws, when you go to the SC home page you should have a 'settings' link (think it's on the rightside of page). You can opt for msgs when votes are pending.
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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08 Sep 2011 20:58Link
Oh, I'm not sure if this setting is just for general voting though. Hmmmm.
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Green Paws (Little Upsilon)

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08 Sep 2011 21:03Link
Oh, well I hope it isn't just for general voting. I have both of them selected. It does mention "resolution" and not "general voting". So fingers crossed.
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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07 Oct 2011 21:20Link
One of the main duties of the Security Council is to help strengthen the economy of LU by helping the development of new emerging countries and export markets for our products.

Two new proposals for development aid have been submitted to the Security Council and General Assembly of LU.

The first proposal is for AutumnskyLU, the other for The Uesugi Shogunate.

Please support these proposals and encourage other developing countries to apply for aid.

Peace and Prosperity.
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SuperSoldierRCP

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08 Oct 2011 01:05Link
The issue with devolpment aid is this... No new players wants to see ANYONE get free cash.

Remember they think nukes are strong as god and 4T turns you into a superpower.

What the GM needs to do is leave voting up to the top 20players of the world and the SC. Between 28 people there should be enough to vote yes to get it passed. I was talking to a free player and he said he got 3messages about voting for the SC devolpment aid. This is good but he said he voted no because the other guy had a 13M pop country and was only 500B in debt he said there was no reason for him to get 4T.

The rest of us know that 4T is penny's in the bucket when paying debts and building a nation but to them its game changing turning someone into a superpower.

Anyways if i find someone to send here for help i will, but this is just GM food for though
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Gothamloki

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08 Oct 2011 02:37Link
I hear ya, Super! I'd love to see some reform in how aid is approved. Voting SHOULD be restricted to SC and top players who understand the game better.

I'm hoping we can try to convince the newbies (especially) that this aid is available to them and benefits all of LU in the long run.
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David Walker (Little Upsilon)

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08 Oct 2011 07:59Link
I think it up to us to get the right message across to all players to vote yes, perhaps mentioning at the time of the proposal to say, they should ask as well. That is probably the only guaranteed way we have of advertising the possibility to them.

The aid I proposed is currently 41-34 in favour so we have made some progress. Some players also wrote to me with comments and I replied. The president who aid is concerning is deacxtivating military units etc and refocusing on economic growth.

I think it is positive that we have more requests and that even if we just scrape through, it is an improvement.

I suggest when we propose in the future, we include a little statement at the bottom encouraging other new players to come forward and not just vote down the aid.
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Kagekatsu Uesugi (Little Upsilon)

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08 Oct 2011 20:18Link
So where does the 4T come from? Do players collectively contribute to the development of the nation, like in real UN proposals, or does it come from GM generating the funds. (IE print money.)
If it has no consequence to countries like mine, 800B in debt, then I wouldn't see why any new player would vote against it in hopes of future aid to their own country.
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Crafty (Little Upsilon)

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08 Oct 2011 21:16Link
There is a fund on each world that the security council can distribute. Its several hundred trillion dollars. I believe each and every country pays a small amount into this fund, and it is such a small amount per country that you wouldnt notice it.

It really does boggle the mind why people would vote no to 5T, hardly a fortune even to a new player, but it sure helps if spent wisely. Sometime I forget to vote at all, but I dont vote no. All candidates should get advice on how to get their economy going too, its stupid to receive 5T and go buy a load of guided missile frigates.
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autey (Little Upsilon)

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11 Oct 2011 19:07Link
heh I think I sent one of those messages and had to vote no. I will vote yes on this current proposal however. For the SC to be giving out free cash these recipients need to held to strict guidelines for using this aid as development. I understand it is a drop in the bucket but this multi-hundred T$ cash fund the SC is holding could be also used in other ways. Like supporting countries that get nuked by players like JHE. I would like to see the SC get more involved in helping quell situations like these and use some of this cash it has sitting around to fund these operations. Lets help all the players that deserve it. New and old alike.
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David Walker (Little Upsilon)

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11 Oct 2011 20:31Link
The SC aid can only be used to help players who are lower than game level 3 and have no more than 2T in cash. That generally means a very new player. I suppose if a player is nuked, they could meet the requirements.

I wish new players would be encouraged to talk the SC by the automation features. Most of the occasions by the time they figure it out, they are at game level 3 already.
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ZentrinoRisen (Little Upsilon)

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12 Oct 2011 00:47Link
If a new player gets aid and uses it to buy weapons, they will quickly find it did not buy enough weapons to do anything to anyone. I say, give 5T to every new player who says they want to try to learn the game. If they use it right, it will help. If not, then we will know what they intended to do and they will leave the game because it did not work anyway.

5T is not enough to purchase weapons to get to WL3, especially for someone new. And there is no way they could then take a player controlled country with those weapons.
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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29 Oct 2011 04:51Link
The Security Council of LU is comissioned with the distribution of Development Aid to assist players build their country's infrastructure and economy. This internal development benefits the overall world economy by demanding more products, and providing a better educated and healthier population that can be employed by LU enterprises.

Athretvari is committed to the spirit of this aid and asks all presidents to vote yes on aid proposals to all countries that have active presidents, showing geniune interest, and in-process of development.

This aid is available to STRUGGLING countries gamelevel 3 and below. Vote Yes and Apply If In Need.

Peace and Prosperity.
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President Mike (Little Upsilon)

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01 Dec 2011 01:19Link
1- Game level 1 or 2
2- War level 0 or 1
3- Education, health, and transportation indexes no greater than 130
4- Country profit no greater than 10 Billion
5- Country debt (including loans) no greater than 4 Trillion
6- No strategic weapons
7- Not in active or declared war
8- Country population no greater than 40 million
9- No greater than 2 countries in LU empire
10- World ranking no higher than 60

I have all these requirements. The reason for this request for aid is that my nation's cash is in the negatives.Please help.
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CorporatePartner (Fearless Blue)

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01 Dec 2011 01:49Link
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If a new player gets aid and uses it to buy weapons, they will quickly find it did not buy enough weapons to do anything to anyone. I say, give 5T to every new player who says they want to try to learn the game. If they use it right, it will help. If not, then we will know what they intended to do and they will leave the game because it did not work anyway.

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Completely agree.

Though, the current maximum allowed appears to be 4T SC$ and the country must meet the absolute basic requirements set by the Security Council automated-system, o
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Gothamloki (Little Upsilon)

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02 Dec 2011 01:00Link
President Mike's country is The Republic of Amelata.

He's an active player. Deserving of aid. Can a current SC member put forward a proposal for him?
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sportsdickey (Little Upsilon)

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02 Apr 2012 21:19Link
I President sportsdickey request International assitance for helping Anjou reconstruction. I think my country meet your criteria for receiving international aid. Thank you!